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As I sit here watching NFL Replay it has dawned on me how much CPalmer likes to throw to CHenry, you can say that it is because CJohson is double teamed, but other QB's get the ball to there #1 WR..even last year in the playoff game his 1st pass was to CHenry...

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Palmer has made it known that he thinks highly of Henry as a receiver... I don't know if that flows over to his personal thoughts of him, but I don't think that matters when you are trying to win games. If Carson knows he can throw jump balls and have better than a 90% chance of coming down with them, he's loving his WR's !!!

WHODEY !!!

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No way boys, Palmer's favorite target is Chad Johnson. That's not even in debate. Heck, both of them went to a Colts game and said, "we want to be like them." Chad is always the first guy Palmer looks at.

And Palmer raves about TJ's skills.

Henry is just icing on the cake -- and the benefactor of having a linebacker or a nickleback or safety. Henry's appeal is the mismatches.

But #1 is CJ. Hands down.

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I don't know. I think an argument can be made for any one of the three... because on any given day, one of those guys goes off. I think it's a case of Palmer just taking what the defense gives him.

The issue with Henry, is that he is a greater purely physical mismatch against corners than either Chad or Housh. He's not a better receiver than either of them... but he got more speed than Housh, he's harder to tackle than Chad, and he's got way better height and jumping skills than either of them.

Carson will always throw to whoever is the most open... but as the year goes on, we might see Carson utilizing Henry's freakish physical tools even more. The first Henry TD against Pitt is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

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Henry was well covered... but he's just too tall, too great a jumper, too much of a mismatch to allow anything to happen to that ball except a TD. If he can stay out of jail, he'll be special.

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As I sit here watching NFL Replay it has dawned on me how much CPalmer likes to throw to CHenry, you can say that it is because CJohson is double teamed, but other QB's get the ball to there #1 WR..even last year in the playoff game his 1st pass was to CHenry...

Other QBs don't have a legitimate downfield threat like Henry as a #3 receiver. In fact, there's only one non-#1 receiver who's a better downfield threat than Henry, and that's Reggie Wayne. Does Peyton throw to him when Marvin's covered? You betcha. There are a lot of games where Marvin doesn't get any looks because teams elect to double him and single Wayne. And Harrison was, for much of that time, the best receiver in the league.

Chad is a top-5 overall receiver.

TJ is a top-5 possession receiver.

Henry has got to be the best #3 in the league by a mile (sorry Stokely).

So for Carson, it's an embarassment of riches. Why force the ball to Chad when you have a wide-open receiver who could be a #1 for half the teams in the league?

But if he had single coverage on all 3 (never happen, but hypothetically) - Carson hits Chad about every time. Or lets reverse things - put double coverage on Henry, and single up Chad, and see if Henry ever smells the ball.

I haven't heard anything about it, so I'm assuming Chad is A-OK with taking one for the team and only catching one ball while his teammates go off. The question is how many teams are willing to let TJ and Cheech destroy them.

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I don't know. I think an argument can be made for any one of the three... because on any given day, one of those guys goes off. I think it's a case of Palmer just taking what the defense gives him.

The issue with Henry, is that he is a greater purely physical mismatch against corners than either Chad or Housh. He's not a better receiver than either of them... but he got more speed than Housh, he's harder to tackle than Chad, and he's got way better height and jumping skills than either of them.

Carson will always throw to whoever is the most open... but as the year goes on, we might see Carson utilizing Henry's freakish physical tools even more. The first Henry TD against Pitt is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

m54162508.jpg

Henry was well covered... but he's just too tall, too great a jumper, too much of a mismatch to allow anything to happen to that ball except a TD. If he can stay out of jail, he'll be special.

Not only is the first Henry TD on Sunday an example, but to me, so is the play on which he got drilled and the pass was intercepted. I've watched it closely on replay numerous times. He had caught the ball, or was clearly in the process of catching it, with one hand well above his head, in stride. It was great hit, but usually Palmer won't lead a receiver into such a hit... but high passes are not uncommon. POint is, he was in the process of making a catch that, without the hit, would have been prime highlight reel stuff. Then, equally important to me, is that after the hit, he caught his breath and bounced right back up, showing great toughness.

Chris, please get your life on track!

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Kenton county prosecutor is looking into whether Henry was drinking the night of Odell's arrrest..

probably ask for video from the bar they were at and witnesses there.

the fact that Odell said he was worse off then him doensst help either.

Henry may be in jail before long so palmer better get to liking CJ and TJ a whole lot more again...

hope chatman is ready soon!

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I don't know. I think an argument can be made for any one of the three... because on any given day, one of those guys goes off. I think it's a case of Palmer just taking what the defense gives him.

The issue with Henry, is that he is a greater purely physical mismatch against corners than either Chad or Housh. He's not a better receiver than either of them... but he got more speed than Housh, he's harder to tackle than Chad, and he's got way better height and jumping skills than either of them.

Carson will always throw to whoever is the most open... but as the year goes on, we might see Carson utilizing Henry's freakish physical tools even more. The first Henry TD against Pitt is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

m54162508.jpg

Henry was well covered... but he's just too tall, too great a jumper, too much of a mismatch to allow anything to happen to that ball except a TD. If he can stay out of jail, he'll be special.

I agree with you D 100%. But pick one you fence-sitting dope :D

The question is who is his favorite target, not reasoning for distribution. Forget it, I'll help you out. It's Chad. :P

Kenton county prosecutor is looking into whether Henry was drinking the night of Odell's arrrest..

probably ask for video from the bar they were at and witnesses there.

the fact that Odell said he was worse off then him doensst help either.

Henry may be in jail before long so palmer better get to liking CJ and TJ a whole lot more again...

hope chatman is ready soon!

Hey, nice job bringing that up in a thread that's totally not related to "character" for a change.

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Not only is the first Henry TD on Sunday an example, but to me, so is the play on which he got drilled and the pass was intercepted. I've watched it closely on replay numerous times. He had caught the ball, or was clearly in the process of catching it, with one hand well above his head, in stride. It was great hit, but usually Palmer won't lead a receiver into such a hit... but high passes are not uncommon. POint is, he was in the process of making a catch that, without the hit, would have been prime highlight reel stuff. Then, equally important to me, is that after the hit, he caught his breath and bounced right back up, showing great toughness.

Chris, please get your life on track!

You're not kidding. In real time it just looked like he got smoked and the ball fell incomplete. In slo-mo, he had the ball with one hand and was pulling it into his chest when he got stuck by the second d back. He clearly would've made a miracle catch even though he was already blanketed. If the second guy hadn't come in and lit him up in just the right spot that's a season highlight catch. Although it does show receiving skills, mainly to me it showed that he was tough as nails to go up like that over the middle on a floater and actually have the ball caught. He's definitely a special receiver and it's incredible that the Bengals have both he and CJ that can make that kind of grab.

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Not only is the first Henry TD on Sunday an example, but to me, so is the play on which he got drilled and the pass was intercepted. I've watched it closely on replay numerous times. He had caught the ball, or was clearly in the process of catching it, with one hand well above his head, in stride. It was great hit, but usually Palmer won't lead a receiver into such a hit... but high passes are not uncommon. POint is, he was in the process of making a catch that, without the hit, would have been prime highlight reel stuff. Then, equally important to me, is that after the hit, he caught his breath and bounced right back up, showing great toughness.

Chris, please get your life on track!

You're not kidding. In real time it just looked like he got smoked and the ball fell incomplete. In slo-mo, he had the ball with one hand and was pulling it into his chest when he got stuck by the second d back. He clearly would've made a miracle catch even though he was already blanketed. If the second guy hadn't come in and lit him up in just the right spot that's a season highlight catch. Although it does show receiving skills, mainly to me it showed that he was tough as nails to go up like that over the middle on a floater and actually have the ball caught. He's definitely a special receiver and it's incredible that the Bengals have both he and CJ that can make that kind of grab.

Yep... and then you have Housh with his amazing concentration. His 30 yard TD catch was incredible. He never drops a pass. It's been said... but our top 3 WR's are sick.

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I don't know. I think an argument can be made for any one of the three... because on any given day, one of those guys goes off. I think it's a case of Palmer just taking what the defense gives him.

Absolutely! Carson doesn't play favorites when it comes down to who he needs to throw to in order for the Bengals to win the game! Sure he loves Chad, they get along fantastically, which is of course a wonderful thing, but with the game on the line, he's the field general, so to speak. He will employ the best means for the unit to win. I'm so comfortable with his decision making in regards to who he throws the ball to. I haven't felt that about a Cincinnati QB since the days of Greg Cook, Kenny Anderson and Boomer Esiason.

*Oops. :gramps: I think I just dated myself! :rolleyes:

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As I sit here watching NFL Replay it has dawned on me how much CPalmer likes to throw to CHenry, you can say that it is because CJohson is double teamed, but other QB's get the ball to there #1 WR..even last year in the playoff game his 1st pass was to CHenry...

Other QBs don't have a legitimate downfield threat like Henry as a #3 receiver. In fact, there's only one non-#1 receiver who's a better downfield threat than Henry, and that's Reggie Wayne. Does Peyton throw to him when Marvin's covered? You betcha. There are a lot of games where Marvin doesn't get any looks because teams elect to double him and single Wayne. And Harrison was, for much of that time, the best receiver in the league.

Chad is a top-5 overall receiver.

TJ is a top-5 possession receiver.

Henry has got to be the best #3 in the league by a mile (sorry Stokely).

So for Carson, it's an embarassment of riches. Why force the ball to Chad when you have a wide-open receiver who could be a #1 for half the teams in the league?

But if he had single coverage on all 3 (never happen, but hypothetically) - Carson hits Chad about every time. Or lets reverse things - put double coverage on Henry, and single up Chad, and see if Henry ever smells the ball.

I haven't heard anything about it, so I'm assuming Chad is A-OK with taking one for the team and only catching one ball while his teammates go off. The question is how many teams are willing to let TJ and Cheech destroy them.

What I'm saying is that JDelhomme gets the ball to SSmith who was the only receiving threat they had last year and he gets double teamed, SSmith lead the league in yards last year, I know alot was YAC but still...and JDelhomme is not as good as CPalmer IMO, he should be able to get the ball to CJohnson...
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