Possibly a little heat off of Henry

[lando griffin]

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...0362/1066/SPT02

[ArmyBengal]

Good !!! Henry isn't out of the pot yet, but he'll be ok !!!

WHODEY !!!

[AMC]

As before, the gun charge in FLA will be the biggest hurdle....Any news on that deal?

[HoosierCat]

As before, the gun charge in FLA will be the biggest hurdle....Any news on that deal?

After last night, Ithink the correct answer to that question (as well as to any about Odell) is, who cares?

Palmer went out and led 3 TD drives, connecting with three different receivers, none of whom were named Henry. So what if we lose him for some period? PUP his a$$ and that will end the issue until after Halloween, by which time the legal issues will have worked themselves out and we'll know where he stands regarding any fines and/or suspension time.

Meanwhile, the D held the packers first-team offense to jack divided by sheot, not to mention generating a TD of its own, with Caleb freakin' Miller starting at MLB. Odell who? It would suckk to have to move on (again) at that spot, but if the Bengals have to it looks like they'll survive just fine.

[AMC]

As before, the gun charge in FLA will be the biggest hurdle....Any news on that deal?

After last night, Ithink the correct answer to that question (as well as to any about Odell) is, who cares?

Palmer went out and led 3 TD drives, connecting with three different receivers, none of whom were named Henry. So what if we lose him for some period? PUP his a$$ and that will end the issue until after Halloween, by which time the legal issues will have worked themselves out and we'll know where he stands regarding any fines and/or suspension time.

Meanwhile, the D held the packers first-team offense to jack divided by sheot, not to mention generating a TD of its own, with Caleb freakin' Miller starting at MLB. Odell who? It would suckk to have to move on (again) at that spot, but if the Bengals have to it looks like they'll survive just fine.

Agreed.

[Stripes]

I want to have Henry in the regular season. I think his presence there would naturally be more important than it ever could be in the preseason. The more good news regarding him, the better.

[marylandbengal]

I really hope someone has sat down and given Henry the facts of life. I know everyone makes their own choices, etc., etc., but I still would like to see him succeed both off the field as well as on.

His history with the Bengals reminds me of a court martial I took part in in the Army (I'm a Reserve paralegal). The Army was prosecuting a soldier for dui and assault, and, in response to the defense' assertion that he was a good soldier, the government described the soldier this way to the board members: "If the army kept so-and-so out on manuevers, or in a combat zone, 24-7, this soldier would no doubt go on to win the Silver Star and become Sergeant Major of the Army. Unfortunately, we can't babysit this soldier when he's off duty."

That to me describes Henry up to his last incident. On the field he's awesome, off the field he's directionless.

Having said this, I'm not condemning the man; grown men can use guidance too. lets hope marvin or someone has taken it upon himself to mentor him (should have done this already) and that he's already turned the corner in the right direction. Just man up and pay the consequences for the past, and move on.

By the by, the block he laid that freed up TJ for the endzone was priceless. The mark of a selfless player

[derekshank]

As before, the gun charge in FLA will be the biggest hurdle....Any news on that deal?

After last night, Ithink the correct answer to that question (as well as to any about Odell) is, who cares?

Palmer went out and led 3 TD drives, connecting with three different receivers, none of whom were named Henry.

Who cares? Well, I guess I do.

I understand your point... but none of the receivers were named Chad either. That doesn't really indicate to me that Chad doesn't have a lot of value as a WR. In fact... Henry was just as responsible for the Housh TD as T.J. was himself because of the great block.

We are a better team with Henry on the field. I still think we are a great team without him, and if there is one position we can afford to have a guy be absent it is WR... but Palmer's comeback game isn't enough for me to claim that we don't need Henry.

[Spain]

You dont let Talent like that walk. Lets face facts he is looking like the next randy moss. He would be a star on another team. There is no way in hell Id pay top Dollar to him. However he is a third round steal. He could help us feild the Best team in football.

[HoosierCat]

I understand your point... but none of the receivers were named Chad either. That doesn't really indicate to me that Chad doesn't have a lot of value as a WR. In fact... Henry was just as responsible for the Housh TD as T.J. was himself because of the great block.

Oh, c'mon. If you want to go that route, then you can chalk all the TDs up in part to Chad, who soaked up Al Harris all night long (and BTW Harris covered him like a glove), leaving TJ and the rest to go up against the likes of 5,000-year-old Charles Woodson (who looked horrible) and Bengals castoff Marquand Manuel. Chad may not have caught a ball but he played a huge role by forcing the Packers to commit their best player in the secondary to covering him. Had Chad been out, the whole complexion of the game would have changed. Had Henry been out, well, someone else would have had to throw a block.

We are a better team with Henry on the field. I still think we are a great team without him, and if there is one position we can afford to have a guy be absent it is WR... but Palmer's comeback game isn't enough for me to claim that we don't need Henry.

Why not? You just admitted yourself that we don't need him ("I still think we are a great team without him"). He's a No. 3 receiver on a team that has guys like Kwash and Tab who can't get enough playing time as it is. If he stays, great, he'll certainly contriibute. But if he doesn't, I won't shed any tears.

[derekshank]

I understand your point... but none of the receivers were named Chad either. That doesn't really indicate to me that Chad doesn't have a lot of value as a WR. In fact... Henry was just as responsible for the Housh TD as T.J. was himself because of the great block.

Oh, c'mon. If you want to go that route, then you can chalk all the TDs up in part to Chad, who soaked up Al Harris all night long (and BTW Harris covered him like a glove), leaving TJ and the rest to go up against the likes of 5,000-year-old Charles Woodson (who looked horrible) and Bengals castoff Marquand Manuel. Chad may not have caught a ball but he played a huge role by forcing the Packers to commit their best player in the secondary to covering him. Had Chad been out, the whole complexion of the game would have changed. Had Henry been out, well, someone else would have had to throw a block.

We are a better team with Henry on the field. I still think we are a great team without him, and if there is one position we can afford to have a guy be absent it is WR... but Palmer's comeback game isn't enough for me to claim that we don't need Henry.

Why not? You just admitted yourself that we don't need him ("I still think we are a great team without him"). He's a No. 3 receiver on a team that has guys like Kwash and Tab who can't get enough playing time as it is. If he stays, great, he'll certainly contriibute. But if he doesn't, I won't shed any tears.

I was merely agreeing with you that it wouldn't be back-breaking to not have him... but that is a lot different than not caring if he never comes back. KW is okay... but he's no Henry. I agree with you about Chad too... I was simply pointing out that just because Chad and Henry didn't catch TD's doesn't indicate a lack of value. Otherwise, we'd have to conclude that Reggie Kelly is more important than both of them combined.

Anyway... My only point I guess is that I will care (apparently more than you) if Henry doesn't come back. We are better with him than without him. If KW was even as good, then he would have been active last year. Washington certainly has had more years in the offense to figure it out... but no, Henry is just that good.

So like I said... not having him is not the same as being without Palmer, but let's not act like it's no issue at all.

[Stripes]

Agreed, Shank. The team is better with Henry, and that's all I care about. Being a 3rd receiver, he'll be somewhat inconsistent. Chad and T.J. ahead of him make that a given. Still, his presence will make a difference on the football team much more-so than any of the wideouts lower on the depth chart.

[HoosierCat]

So like I said... not having him is not the same as being without Palmer, but let's not act like it's no issue at all.

I'm not *acting* like it's no issue at all. I'm saying flat out that it's no issue at all. The difference between Henry and Kwash's performance as the No. 3 receiver isn't worth talking about. Go look at Kwash's numbers in 2004 and 2005 versus Henry last season if you don't believe me. And that's with all the lazy, bad route-running knocks on Washington.

[Stripes]

I'm not a K-dub hater, but I'd say Henry's rookie season was more impressive than any K-dub season has been to date. Henry's production easily rivals K-dub's IMO, and his potential to be even more productive is sky high.

[HoosierCat]

I'm not a K-dub hater, but I'd say Henry's rookie season was more impressive than any K-dub season has been to date. Henry's production easily rivals K-dub's IMO, and his potential to be even more productive is sky high.

Maybe. OTOH this impressive debut year of Henry's came during the season Carson Palmer came of age, putting up numbers fit to make most other QBs in the league green with envy. Meanwhile, who did Kwash have throwing the ball? Jon Kitna and a much shakier rookie Palmer. Even more tellingly is that Kwash was apparently starting to bloom late in 2004, just as Palmer began to hit his stride; about a third of his yards and receptions, and 2 of his 3 TDs, came in a 3-game stretch the last 3 weeks of November against DC, Pitt, and Cleveland.

[membengal]

Dunno, hoosier, I don't hate K-Wash at all, but he is a much different receiving threat than Henry, and what Henry brings to the team I see as being of enormous value, more so than Wash.

For one thing, Henry's ability to stretch the field is a skillset not really shared by Washington, and makes the three receiver set that this team employs very difficult to defend. I think they will miss him when his forced vacation finally arrives.

That said, there are others who can definitely fill in, and Washington is one such person. But I think Henry is above the others, and not by just a little bit...

[derekshank]

If KW and Henry are so comparable, then why would the coaches choose a rookie WR over a 3rd year WR who knew the system better? The answer is... they're not that comparable.

Put away the fantasy nerd stats... who cares about stats. As you said yourself... Chad without a single catch was instrumental in Housh's big game.

Henry is the better receiver, the better athlete, the better football player. The only thing KW is better than Henry at is being a good human being. If Henry can get that part down, he'll be something special. I don't think the same can be said for KW (aka trade bait)

[aaronburr]

Regarding the original topic...the false rape charge is old news. That charge happened around the same time as Henry's buying-alcohol-for-minors charges happened.

The point of the article is that Henry's version of Divine Brown failed to appear. No big deal. That this little hiccup puts Henry's name back in the headlines...that's not good. It shows that the press (and the rest of us) will dredge up the whole off-season from hell everytime this girl acts up. Regardless of how his cases end up, it's going to be awhile before he lives this stuff down.

As for Henry vs. KWash...didn't one player already beat out the other? I guess you could say that KWash is better, that Marvin is wrong. But I think that would be a mistake.

[derekshank]

Regardless of how his cases end up, it's going to be awhile before he lives this stuff down.

We'll see. Sean Taylor is a known idiot... but the media has relaxed on him quite a bit. There are simply more interesting stories, and the media follows the stories.

When the season starts in less than 2 weeks there are going to be a lot more interesting stories than Henry's plea-bargaining. It will probably make the ESPNews ticker... but that's about it.