BengalsMan3203 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Probably well covered and well discussed.... But got this from rotoworld.comBengals RB Chris Perry (ankle surgery) may start the 2006 season on the Physically Unable to Perform list.There have reportedly been no signs of Perry returning to action any time soon. One of the most valuable backup runners in the league, the Bengals will be at a major loss without him. Kenny Watson is next on the depth chart. Aug. 19 - 10:26 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Wow hope he gets well soon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxonFord87 Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 If perry in put on the list, do we keep another back, and if so who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 If perry in put on the list, do we keep another back, and if so who?I say Dorcey has, so far, earned his spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybengalsfan Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Wow hope he gets well soon.. It seems like Pollack and Chris Perry are competing to see who can play less. Another thing they have in common: both held out as rookies. Tells me something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronburr Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 If they're seriously looking to fill Chris Perry's spot (even if only for 6 weeks) I'd like to see Quincy get more reps. I'm a little skeptical about DeDe from Lindenwood being the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 So what now about people who said we don't need pass catching TE because we have perry.Wow hope he gets well soon.. It seems like Pollack and Chris Perry are competing to see who can play less. Another thing they have in common: both held out as rookies. Tells me something. Actually pollack played good portion of his rookie season perry had 2 carries =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I would rather see Dorsey early on against some of the oppositions 1st teamers before I give him the nod. I love Quincy Wilson, he's Rudi Jr.WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 mybe theyll give dede a chance this coming game (wonder how much theyll play rudi? 3 qrts like carson or? if anything they can use dede as 3rd down back vs the 1st stringers / perry style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 I would rather see Dorsey early on against some of the oppositions 1st teamers before I give him the nod. I love Quincy Wilson, he's Rudi Jr.WHODEY !!!Are you reading my blog?http://www.cincyjungle.com/(cheap self-promotion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 can dorsey block? wilsons problem as well i believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMThor Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I honestly think Quincy looked damn good last game. I can't speak to his picking up blitzes, but he hit the hole very well and was aggressive as Hell. I liked his play a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronburr Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 can dorsey block? wilsons problem as well i believe...At least Quincy has the bulk. DeDe's twenty pounds lighter than all the other RB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 We're going to miss Perry's pass catching ability on 3rd down... but that is all we're going to miss. The other guys, whether it be Watson or Wilson, they'll be great for giving Rudi some rest throughout the course of a game.As far as Perry's value as a make-you-miss back... I'd love to see him be on the field long enough to show us what he's got, but he hasn't. So I'm not going to cry over spilt milk... because frankly, Perry hasn't done anything on the field to warrant me being worried about his absence.For the record... I'm not a Perry hater. I would love for him to get on the field, and stay healthy, because I do think his health could give us another dimension, but that continues to be speculation at this point... speculation that I am growing weary of hoping to see realized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalling Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm really kind of frustrated with Perry b!tching about the Bengals medical staff. I don't believe we have heard complaints of this nature recently. It sounds like surgery was the most invasive option and the Bengals would have preferred avoiding it. Hate to say it, but Perry sounds soft. If some disciplined off-season conditioning might have prevented/avoided surgery and he preferred getting a second opinion (from a doctor more to his liking) that went straight to the surgical option I have concerns.I suggest giving Dorsey some reps with the 1's to see if he can fill in on 3rd down. Of course if you're concerned about a cowbell back to backup Rudi, you've got to give Quincy more of a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Watson will be the third down back and Wilson or Manderino will be the other RB, depending on whether they keep 2 or 3 TE's.Watson is a very capable backup for Perry or Rudi. Yes he is a downgrade at both positions, that is why he is a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm really kind of frustrated with Perry b!tching about the Bengals medical staff. I don't believe we have heard complaints of this nature recently. It sounds like surgery was the most invasive option and the Bengals would have preferred avoiding it. Hate to say it, but Perry sounds soft. If some disciplined off-season conditioning might have prevented/avoided surgery and he preferred getting a second opinion (from a doctor more to his liking) that went straight to the surgical option I have concerns.I suggest giving Dorsey some reps with the 1's to see if he can fill in on 3rd down. Of course if you're concerned about a cowbell back to backup Rudi, you've got to give Quincy more of a look.Well, if you're tired of someone bitching about the Bengal Medical Staff, than you must not like me much, because they are the worst in all of pro sports. This makes TWO times they have misdiagnosed the severity of a Perry injury. Three if you count the ankle & knee as two different injuries. The kid was an Iron Man in College. Again, I would not let them treat my dog for fleas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm really kind of frustrated with Perry b!tching about the Bengals medical staff. I don't believe we have heard complaints of this nature recently. It sounds like surgery was the most invasive option and the Bengals would have preferred avoiding it. Hate to say it, but Perry sounds soft. If some disciplined off-season conditioning might have prevented/avoided surgery and he preferred getting a second opinion (from a doctor more to his liking) that went straight to the surgical option I have concerns.I suggest giving Dorsey some reps with the 1's to see if he can fill in on 3rd down. Of course if you're concerned about a cowbell back to backup Rudi, you've got to give Quincy more of a look.if perry said there was still pain after the bengals medical staff said he was ok . i believe the player he knows if some thing is not right . if he was ok then there should have not been any pain in his knee or ankle and if the medical would have diagnosed it properly back in february perry would be able to be practicing and ready to play the opener . so if i was him i would be pissed too and to think these are the same guys that are responsible for carson's rehab really makes me very nervous . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The Bengals medical staff has had a poor reputation for a long time. I recall an espn survey of players several years ago -- late Nineties, IIRC -- in which players surveyed rated the team's care at the bottom of the league. It would not surprise me one bit if Perry's current troubles are due in some part to their bumbling ways.But that's secondary to the simple fact that Perry is sidelined yet again. I expect them to PUP him and go with something along the lines of Rudi-Watson-Dorsey. If that works out, and if Perry comes off PUP healthy, I also wouldn't be surprised to see Perry traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The Bengals medical staff has had a poor reputation for a long time. I recall an espn survey of players several years ago -- late Nineties, IIRC -- in which players surveyed rated the team's care at the bottom of the league. It would not surprise me one bit if Perry's current troubles are due in some part to their bumbling ways.But that's secondary to the simple fact that Perry is sidelined yet again. I expect them to PUP him and go with something along the lines of Rudi-Watson-Dorsey. If that works out, and if Perry comes off PUP healthy, I also wouldn't be surprised to see Perry traded.I dont see them keeping Watson and Dorsey, Wilson is the best option for a backup to Rudi and Dorsey will not draw much attention on the PS. Watson and Dorsey are both better suited as 3rd down options and I would expect that Watson's experience and ST's ability will lead to Rudi, Watson and Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Will Perry get his two carries? I guess we'll wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Give Dorsey some of Quincy's early carries next week. That guy is too good to just let go right now with Perry gone - his size makes no difference whatsoever - he's not that small any ways. But he has continually stepped up to the plate in scrimmages/camp and preseason games so far.Look what Willie Parker did for the Steelers last year - and he was a nobody also.Dorsey is exciting - and not in a lame Jamal Broussard or Brazelle kind of way - he's the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Chris Perry is an asshat. Players are ultimately responsible for their own medical care, and most consider it almost mandatory to get a 2nd medical opinion about any injury. In fact, teams encourage it and the Bengals have a long history of working with specialists around the country that were selected by players for various reasons ranging from narrow areas of expertise to the convenience of working with a medical staff close to the players home. If Perry was so upset that his earlier injury had been misdiagnosed by the Bengals medical staff isn't it reasonable to assume that when he first started complaining about his latest ding....he would have gotten a 2nd opinion? Yet it doesn't sound like he bothered to do this for several months. Why not? And how stupid does it sound when a player complaining about two seperate injuries, knee and ankle, can't remember when either happened? No matter. It sounds like Perry is months away from being healthy so PUP him and prepare yourself for his now familiar excuses about how he'll really show what he can do the following year. Who knows, the guy may even produce an actual rushing TD before his contract expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The Bengals medical staff has had a poor reputation for a long time. I recall an espn survey of players several years ago -- late Nineties, IIRC -- in which players surveyed rated the team's care at the bottom of the league. It would not surprise me one bit if Perry's current troubles are due in some part to their bumbling ways. Old news is bad news. I remember the negative results of the player survey you're referring to were due in part to the feelings that the Bengals medical staff was as poorly equipped as any in the NFL. That changed dramatically with the construction of PBS. For proof, look to the recent example of Clinton Portis getting an MRI onsite during a football game. In addition, the Bengals medical staff was overhauled several years ago. As for rumors of bumbling, recent headlines remind me that Carson Palmer's rehab is said to be months ahead of schedule, and Willie Anderson is one of very few athletes to recover from serious microfracture surgery. Plus, it's not out of the question that the Bengals center of the future will be a player who suffered a devastating knee injury in college that was so severe it was considered career threatening. All things considered, the Bengals recent medical track record is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The Bengals medical staff has had a poor reputation for a long time. I recall an espn survey of players several years ago -- late Nineties, IIRC -- in which players surveyed rated the team's care at the bottom of the league. It would not surprise me one bit if Perry's current troubles are due in some part to their bumbling ways. Old news is bad news. I remember the negative results of the player survey you're referring to were due in part to the feelings that the Bengals medical staff was as poorly equipped as any in the NFL. That changed dramatically with the construction of PBS. For proof, look to the recent example of Clinton Portis getting an MRI onsite during a football game. In addition, the Bengals medical staff was overhauled several years ago. As for rumors of bumbling, recent headlines remind me that Carson Palmer's rehab is said to be months ahead of schedule, and Willie Anderson is one of very few athletes to recover from serious microfracture surgery. Plus, it's not out of the question that the Bengals center of the future will be a player who suffered a devastating knee injury in college that was so severe it was considered career threatening. All things considered, the Bengals recent medical track record is pretty good.As much as I want to argue with you about Perry being an asshat, you are 100% correct. Taking the word of Dr. Nick and the boys is forgivable THE FIRST TIME! If my livelihood is on the line, I see anyone but their Medical Staff. And the reason Carson is ahead of schedule is because he found his own surgeon. He stayed as far away from 'the rusty saw gang' as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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