Potential Final roster

[icehole3]

just a guess so dont get to hyper on me

QB

no surpises...Palmer, Wright, Johnson

RB

Rudi, Perry, Watson, JJ

OL

The regular 5 and Whitworth, Andrews, Kooistra, Ghiaciuc. I can see them trying to put Kieft on the PUP, maybe slide Wilkerson on the practice squad.

TE

Kelly, Stewart, Ghent

WR

CJ, TJ, Henry, Chatman, Brazelle, McNeal. Everyone is else is gone or slides to the practice squad.

Defense

DL

Adams, Thorton, Robinson, Shaun Smith, Peko, J Smith, Rucker, Geathers, Fanene

LBs

Pollack, Simmons, LJohnson, Brooks, Nicholson, Jeanty, Wilkins. Everyone else gone and Thurman goes to suspended list, when he gets re-instated Wilkins is history.

DBs

James, ONeal, Joseph, Ratliff, Jackson, Madieu, Kilmer, Kase, Mitchell. Everyone else is history and whoever falls through the cracks makes the practice squad.

This team will be hard to crack at this point. Question marks being Ghent, Fanene and Mitchell.

ST

Opie, Larson and St. Louis

[icehole3]

Drop off Fanene and add Tad Perry.

[Wraith]

My thought exactly...no way they keep 9 Defensive Linemen particularly since all signs point towards switching to a 3-4 next season

[schweinhart]

Eric Henderson should make it virtually impossible for the Bengals to cut him. He should be their best pass rushing DE with the best contain skills off stretch runs.

I for one hope 7th round phenom WR Bobo Brazil gets squadded. Unless the plan is to actually use him in games. Him just eating up a roster spot to be inactive every game is pointless when the Bengals can situationally use their their 45-man for matchup advantages.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Drop Doug Johnson and put McNeal there so Tab can have the #3 WR slot untill Cheech gets out of the pokey. Johnson blows anyway, McNeal can do just as good a job.

I think Wilkerson and Henderson are both going to make it hard to cut them.

I also think Thorton maybe cut to keep a yougster and save some money for the next contract extension.

[semiotter]

You can add Kevin Kaesviharn ,all you KK haters just dont give this guy no credit. He was just only one of the leading tacklers on the team last year..

He was second on the team behind Odell with 63 tackles and 24 assists not to bad. But he still dont get no credit on here??????? But he will make the roster again count on it he doesnt hurt this defense or he wouldnt have played all the time last year.

[lando griffin]

I really think Bauman should be added on that list.

[redsbengalsbucks]

You can add Kevin Kaesviharn ,all you KK haters just dont give this guy no credit. He was just only one of the leading tacklers on the team last year..

He was second on the team behind Odell with 63 tackles and 24 assists not to bad. But he still dont get no credit on here??????? But he will make the roster again count on it he doesnt hurt this defense or he wouldnt have played all the time last year.

I totally agree with your assesment, but he has Kase on the list.

[HoosierCat]

This team will be hard to crack at this point. Question marks being Ghent, Fanene and Mitchell.

Not a bad list. I like the idea of booting Johnson in favor of McNeal (if Wright goes down and Carson can't play Dougie ain't gonna get us anywhere anyhow) to keep Tab (who will stay regardless IMHO, knocking off Brazell or McNeal).

They seem to like Fanene. I have a sinking feeling they will cut Shaun Smith, which will p*ss me off to no end.

I'll revive a proposal I made a while back: go with just 2 TEs. You can use Andrews there on short yardage. That frees up a space for Keift or Wilkerson or a receiver.

[ArmyBengal]

I'm the KK hater representin' here and once again, there was just no better option than him, not so much that he blows as much as OhIsuckAlote... 2nd in tackles ?? Count me as unimpressed as everything went the safties way as that was our HUGE weekpoint.

Dougie boy has to be dropped from that list !!! Kilmer may be practice squad material as well. Where do you put him ?? WR ?? Safety ?? Practice squad ??

WHODEY !!!

[sparky151]

My guess:

QB - Palmer, Wright. I think Palmer will be good to go week 1 so Johnson gets cut, Meyer to PS, and McNeal as defacto 3rd QB while continuing to work as WR.

RB - Rudi, Perry, Wilson, JJ

WR - CJ, TJ, Cheech, Chatman, Perry, Brazell. If Cheech is suspended before season starts, Squirrel makes roster, otherwise he or maybe Chatman are traded for low draft pick.

TE - Kelly, Stewart, Sanders

OL - Jones, Steinbach, Braham, Williams, Anderson, Whitworth, Kooistra, Ghiaciuc, Wilkerson, and Andrews. Unless Steinbach or Anderson are extended before season starts, I expect team to keep an extra O-lineman to prepare for possible loss of 3 starters after 06 season.

DL - Robinson, Adams, Thornton, J Smith, Fanene, S Smith, Peko, Henderson

LB - Pollack, Simmons, Johnson, Jeanty, Brooks, Nicholson, Wilkins. When Thurman returns, Wilkins goes.

DB - O'Neal, James, Jackson, Williams, Ratliff, Joseph, Kaesviharn, Kilmer, Body

ST - Graham, Larson, St. Louis

Bubble guys are Chatman if he doesn't win PR job, McNeal if Palmer is questionable, Sanders vs Ghent, Kooistra, Geathers or Rucker could make team.

[semiotter]

I'm the KK hater representin' here and once again, there was just no better option than him, not so much that he blows as much as OhIsuckAlote... 2nd in tackles ?? Count me as unimpressed as everything went the safties way as that was our HUGE weekpoint.

Dougie boy has to be dropped from that list !!! Kilmer may be practice squad material as well. Where do you put him ?? WR ?? Safety ?? Practice squad ??

WHODEY !!!

Well I hate to tell ya that he will be on the team one way or the other, special teams or something because he has been here 6 years and Marvin must like something bout the way he plays. Are huge weekpoint was thats who had to make the tackles because we couldnt stop the run alot of the times. Thats not the safteies fault... So keep on hating cuz KK is a mainstay on this "D" and go NAVY!!!!!!

[redsbengalsbucks]

This team will be hard to crack at this point. Question marks being Ghent, Fanene and Mitchell.

Not a bad list. I like the idea of booting Johnson in favor of McNeal (if Wright goes down and Carson can't play Dougie ain't gonna get us anywhere anyhow) to keep Tab (who will stay regardless IMHO, knocking off Brazell or McNeal).

They seem to like Fanene. I have a sinking feeling they will cut Shaun Smith, which will p*ss me off to no end.

I'll revive a proposal I made a while back: go with just 2 TEs. You can use Andrews there on short yardage. That frees up a space for Keift or Wilkerson or a receiver.

I like the idea about 2 TE's, Brad St. Louis can be an emergency TE also.

[SkinneymulleT]

There is no way wilkerson (if healthy) walks. Whats with all the hate on him?

[icehole3]

no room for wilkerson unless he just down right balls once the games start. Same for Henderson, he'd have to be virtually unblockable for them to keep him instead of Frostee.

[jditty47]

if u go with only 2 TE's it would have to be for a safety or a LB...would have to be a ST's standout.

[redsbengalsbucks]

if u go with only 2 TE's it would have to be for a safety or a LB...would have to be a ST's standout.

That is what Kilmer is suppose to be.

[ArmyBengal]

I'm the KK hater representin' here and once again, there was just no better option than him, not so much that he blows as much as OhIsuckAlote... 2nd in tackles ?? Count me as unimpressed as everything went the safties way as that was our HUGE weekpoint.

Dougie boy has to be dropped from that list !!! Kilmer may be practice squad material as well. Where do you put him ?? WR ?? Safety ?? Practice squad ??

WHODEY !!!

Well I hate to tell ya that he will be on the team one way or the other, special teams or something because he has been here 6 years and Marvin must like something bout the way he plays. Are huge weekpoint was thats who had to make the tackles because we couldnt stop the run alot of the times. Thats not the safteies fault... So keep on hating cuz KK is a mainstay on this "D" and go NAVY!!!!!!

Well, as much as you hate to tell me, I hate to hear it !!! I don't think sh*t of KK and to tell you the truth, he was the ONLY option we had. I've made this argument before and will say again... When you have no one else to go to, what do you do ?? KK is best suited to give starters a breather and then put his monkeyass back on the bench where it belongs. Tell me you are comfortable with KK in the game for more than a breather for either Madieu and Jackson and I'll be waiting for your next explaination of why Ohalate wasn't that bad either. Once again, he's more than good for coming off the bench for a spell, but nothing more. If that is what Marvin values in him, than great. Here's another guess... If we draft safety in next years draft, KK can say goddbye !!! I know I'll be happy !!!

WHODEY !!!

[HoosierCat]

no room for wilkerson unless he just down right balls once the games start. Same for Henderson, he'd have to be virtually unblockable for them to keep him instead of Frostee.

I'm not so sure. I think the Bengals are going to twist themselves into knots trying to keep both Wilkerson and Henderson. Braham is likely done after this year and Larry Moore has already been cut, so Guy and Wilk are the starter/backup combo of the future.

As for Henderson, well, to your point he was working against the 1st string offensive line in the mock game and racked up two sacks. But beyond that, the Bengals list 6 DEs: Fanene, Justin, B-Rob, Henderson, Geathers and Rucker. Of those, Justin seems headed to FA next year, B-Rob's 32, and Geathers flopped as a starter last season and has been demoted to situational pass rusher.

Henderson has something like 17 teams after him as an UDFA, so if they let him go they'll never get him back.

I'm gaming the DE position like this:

Locks: Justin Smith. Get that contract year out of him, then off he goes.

Pick 2: B-Rob, Rucker, Fanene. Marvin likes that "swing" ability, DEs that can move inside. B-Rob and Fanene have both done that and in camp they have beern rotating Rucker inside as well.

Battle for the last spot: Geathers and Henderson. If Henderson can get to the QB like he did in the mock game and hold up against the run (unlike Jumpy Jr.) he may get the nod.

[WretchedOne]

The support of Eric Henderson in thread is great. I was pimping this kid SOOOO hard before the draft. Some of you might remember my "man crush" on Eric...for those of you who don't know. Go look through the Draft Forum and find some of my crazy Eric pimping.

IMO, He's the 2nd best pass rushing DE on the roster. Right now.

And Eric is not just a situational 3rd down rush guy. Eric is a 3-down guy who can absolutely demolish a running play behind the LOS or can beat LTs like Levi Jones for a sack in a passing situation. (Eric put a NICE ASS move on Levi for a sack in the mock game from what I hear)

Eric is a guy who could easily replace Justin Smith next year.

The problem is that people think a few sacks in a mock game don't really matter, but I was there opening day for TC this year and Eric getting into the backfield is something I've seen him do from Day One of TC.

I was stading less than 50 feet from Eric watching him in 11-11 and 7-7 drills and he was just getting penetration consistantly. There was one play were he would have dropped the RB for a good 5 yard loss.

So it's not one game, or one play, or one series. Eric has been getting into the backfield since TC opened and he ain't ever gonna friggin' stop either.

I really can't wait to see this kid in the pre-season. I've PINED for him for 5 months and now it's time to finally watch Eric embaress a few OTs and slam some QBs into the dirt.

I think he not only makes the 53 man roster this year...

But I'll be bold and say that Eric will get more than 6 sacks in the 2006 season.

[Kazkal]

Johnson is gone he is worthless besides a camp arm,even if carson doesnt start wright gets hurt we'd find another QB that would beat him for the spot. I also think Miller beats out wilkins he's been getting alot of props this offseason + took pollacks spot when he went down on 1st team vs wilkins who hasen't got any props.

I wouldent be suprised if we keep 8 LB's too once Odell comes back sense their so useful on special teams + with possible switch too 3-4

Eric Henderson should make it virtually impossible for the Bengals to cut him. He should be their best pass rushing DE with the best contain skills off stretch runs.

I for one hope 7th round phenom WR Bobo Brazil gets squadded. Unless the plan is to actually use him in games. Him just eating up a roster spot to be inactive every game is pointless when the Bengals can situationally use their their 45-man for matchup advantages.

Well Henderson depends if we are sticking 4-3 or switching too 3-4 I think... as for fanene would be a mistake He can play 3-4 and 4-3 end but no way we let tab go either.

I'm the KK hater representin' here and once again, there was just no better option than him, not so much that he blows as much as OhIsuckAlote... 2nd in tackles ?? Count me as unimpressed as everything went the safties way as that was our HUGE weekpoint.

Dougie boy has to be dropped from that list !!! Kilmer may be practice squad material as well. Where do you put him ?? WR ?? Safety ?? Practice squad ??

WHODEY !!!

Well I hate to tell ya that he will be on the team one way or the other, special teams or something because he has been here 6 years and Marvin must like something bout the way he plays. Are huge weekpoint was thats who had to make the tackles because we couldnt stop the run alot of the times. Thats not the safteies fault... So keep on hating cuz KK is a mainstay on this "D" and go NAVY!!!!!!

Well, as much as you hate to tell me, I hate to hear it !!! I don't think sh*t of KK and to tell you the truth, he was the ONLY option we had. I've made this argument before and will say again... When you have no one else to go to, what do you do ?? KK is best suited to give starters a breather and then put his monkeyass back on the bench where it belongs. Tell me you are comfortable with KK in the game for more than a breather for either Madieu and Jackson and I'll be waiting for your next explaination of why Ohalate wasn't that bad either. Once again, he's more than good for coming off the bench for a spell, but nothing more. If that is what Marvin values in him, than great. Here's another guess... If we draft safety in next years draft, KK can say goddbye !!! I know I'll be happy !!!

WHODEY !!!

I'd take him over mitchell,herring or Ohalete bitch...KK isen't great but i'm fine with him when hes giving another player a breather or even have to start a game or 2 but i'm not fine with Ohalete

in there even if its 1 play so madieu can grab a drink.

[ArmyBengal]

I'd take him over mitchell,herring or Ohalete bitch...KK isen't great but i'm fine with him when hes giving another player a breather or even have to start a game or 2 but i'm not fine with Ohalete

in there even if its 1 play so madieu can grab a drink.

Starting ?? Never want to relive that nightmare again, unless one of our starters are late getting to the stadium due to traffic, but will be there to get in on the 2nd play !!! I agree with the designated breath giver...

WHODEY !!!

[BengalChamps]

But I'll be bold and say that Eric will get more than 6 sacks in the 2006 season.

Uhhh... that might be a record for an UDFA. I'll take "the under" on that call.

I cant believe that some of you have left Reggie! off of your list. This guy has got to make the team. NO WAY i keep Dougie Johnson in place of Reggie!

[derekshank]

Is McNeal even getting snaps at QB in training camp? If Palmer is getting 40% of the snaps, and Wright and Johnson are splitting the rest of the time, that doesn't leave much time to try to coach up a rookie that is making the switch to WR.

My guess is that if they really thought McNeal could be our 3rd QB, that he'd be practicing as a QB. When you could very well start the season with the starter on the shelf, that 3rd QB becomes pretty important.

[AMC]

For what it's worth!

QB: Palmer, Wright, McNeal

RB: Rudi, Perry, JJ, Watson

WR: CJ, TJ, Henry, Chatman, Tab, Brazell

TE: Kelly, Stewart, Ghent

OL: 5 starters, Whitworth, Koo, Andrews, Wilkerson, Guy-check

DL: Justin, BRob, Peko, Sam Adams, Geathers, Shaun Smith, Thornton, Rucker

LB: Simmons, Pollack, Landon, Brooks, Thurman, Wilkins, Jeanty, Caleb Miller

DB: Deltha, Tory, Joseph, Ratliff, Bauman, KK, Madieu, Dexter

K/P/LS: Graham, Larson, St. Louis