ArmyBengal Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 We will use this thread to discuss who the Bengals drafted in the 2nd Round...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Andrew Whitworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Andrew Whitworth...There's Willie's replacement.I still hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I only hate it because the idea of losing Willie makes me sick, but you have to do what you have to do. Whitworth is 6'7" 335 lbs and didn't allow a sack last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTG Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Oh what the hell???? Pope? Watson? Simpson? Three guys who can come in and help this year? NOPE. A project offensive tackle to back up the guys we have. Unbe-freaking-lievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalspride1219 Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 yeah i dont like the pick either but i trust marvin lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 There was so much defensive value on the board, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...wwhitworth.htmlHeight: 6-7 | Weight: 334 | 40-Time: 5.15 Official Bio Strengths:A four-year starter with loads of experience against top competition...Very durable...Has good size and a big frame...Strong and physical player who overwhelms opponents...A mauler in the running game due to his size and attitude...Has a nasty demeanor on the field and plays to the whistle...Smart and technically sound...Team leader who is very coachable with top intangibles. Weaknesses:Is not a great natural athlete...Does not move real well and footwork is spotty at best...Struggles to get to the second level of defenders and to hit moving targets...Needs to play with better leverage and bend his knees more...Has trouble with speed rushers and is not a great pass blocker...Not as good as his press would indicate...Upside might be limited due to his physical shortcomings. Notes:Played left tackle in college but will be relegated to the right side at the pro level...Solid but unspectacular player who will never be a star but could come in and start for a long time...Is not flashy and what you see is what you get but if it's a big, physical right tackle you are looking for then this is probably your guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Pin this one on Willie. If he'd gone for the extenson this is another pick. Hey, thanks, Big Mouth, and don't let the door hit you in a$$ on the way out... (Trade Willie now.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 You know Marvin and his Projects... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I guess this means the dancing bear and koostia is nothing more then depth /back ups and we can say good bye to someonePin this one on Willie. If he'd gone for the extenson this is another pick. Hey, thanks, Big Mouth, and don't let the door hit you in a$$ on the way out... (Trade Willie now.)I say wait till last week deadline that way our rookie has time too learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 http://www.nflfans.com/x/2006/top30.php?position=OTPros:Solid run blocker who creates huge lanes for rushers, uses his size advantage over opponents very well, has huge upside and could develope into an elite tackle in the NFL for years, has started 39 games and counting in the tough SEC so injuries do not appear to be a problem with him. Cons:Just like most OTs his size he has problems with pure pass rushers. If he can't develop his pass protection he may have to be moved from LT to RT but could be extremely effective from both positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 No doubt others were there, but Whitworth is a force. He singlehandedly backups every O-line position except for center. Great player with no quit and all grit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combatbengal Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I would of thought we needed a run stopper more then an OT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 yeah i dont like the pick either but i trust marvin lewisso do I but pope and ko were both on the board /crys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I don't like the pick at all. What does this say about the development of Andrews ?? Our defense needs a pass rush and a younger safety and Pope was still on the board. BULLSH*T pick in my mind. I F*CKING HATE IT !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/whitworth_andrewAndrew Whitworth Height: 6-7Weight: 32740 Speed: 5.16* Position: Offensive TackleCollege: Louisiana StateFinal Grade: F 5.5 GM JR Scouting LLC Grading Scale/Key SUMMARY Whitworth was a disappointing player to grade, because he has received a ton of accolades at LSU, but after watching film of him, one realizes he is not a top level offensive linemen. He has excellent size for an offensive tackle at nearly 6-foot-7 and 330 pounds, but he is a limited athlete who struggles to move and block well out in space. He can slide well in one direction, but because he plays up high and straight-legged, he struggles to re-direct and slide quickly in the other direction to adjust to quick inside pass-rush moves. He does not punch the defensive end in pass protection, which allows the defensive end to get into his chest, and he gets driven backwards by bull rushers too easily. He lacks the flexibility to bend his knees and block with leverage, which hinders his ability to get movement on in-line run blocks -- he is more of a stand, grab and push run blocker, who relies upon his size and effort to get his man blocked. He can get through to the second level to seal block the linebacker decently, but he struggles to adjust and block well in space. Overall, Whitworth is somewhat of a "tweener," who lacks the athleticism teams want in a tackle, and lacks the playing strength to be effective at guard. Whitworth has the ability to be a very good backup tackle who can spot start at times, but is best suited to be a backup. STRONG POINTS Whitworth has excellent size for an offensive tackle and the long arms that are ideal. When he gets his hands on the defensive end quickly, he can get good arm extension and can usually tie the man up at the point of attack. He can slide out to corner decently to cut off the average edge rusher. He gives a good effort on in-line run blocks and stays after his blocks until the whistle. He can pull and block decently on a defender who is on his track. WEAKNESSES He is a limited athlete who lacks the flexibility and agility teams want in a tackle. He can slide out decently to cut off the corner, but explosive speed rushers will beat him around the corner, and he can't slide back inside to cut off the quick inside pass-rush move. He does not punch defensive ends in pass protection, lets aggressive defenders into his chest and can be driven back into the quarterback's lap too easily. He is not a fire-off-the-ball run blocker and struggles to get movement on in-line run blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTG Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Weaknesses:Is not a great natural athlete...Does not move real well and footwork is spotty at best...Struggles to get to the second level of defenders and to hit moving targets...Needs to play with better leverage and bend his knees more...Has trouble with speed rushers and is not a great pass blocker...Not as good as his press would indicate...Upside might be limited due to his physical shortcomings. Lovely. Is not a great pass blocker and struggles against speed rushers. That's kind of important when he'll be playing against two 3-4 defenses and the Ravens, isn't it? Solid but unspectacular player who will never be a star but could come in and start for a long time...Is not flashy and what you see is what you get but if it's a big, physical right tackle you are looking for then this is probably your guy.Don't we already have this with Andrews?? What about that Keift kid?I hate this pick. They could have shorn up the secondary for the next 10 years with Simpson, added a dynamic playmaker on offense with Pope, or had someone to step in at DT for the next several years with Watson. But noooooo, let's draft for depth instead. I mean, they could have done this next year. They didn't need this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I'm actually happy with the pick.We only have so much cap room we can't hand out $7million a year to 3 guys at the same time.I was expecting it to a LG to replace stienbach, but it looks like stienbach and Levi will be back. Willie will be let go, and that happens when your decline a 3 year $18million dollar extension.Catch you later willie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Pope and Ko will still be there in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoilersAndBengals Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I know this has been posted but;Lance's Blog:The Bengal's draft board is completed. Some players with high marks are:Donte Whitner Ohio State - Safety or corner.Jason Allen Tennessee - Safety or corner.Manny Lawson North Carolina St. - strong side linebacker or defensive endMathias Kiwanuka Boston College - defensive endJonathen Joseph South Carolina - cornerAshton Youboty Ohio State - cornerAntonio Cromartie Florida St. - cornerLance, my best educated guess as of now has Cincinnati getting Kiwanuka or Allen in round #1.Round 2: Keep an eye on Andrew Whitworth an offensive tackle from LSU. This young man is coveted by Paul Alexander and would give them insurance for Willie Anderson and Levi Jones who both appear as if they won't be signed in 2006. Whitworth is huge at 6'-7" 334 lbs. and quite flexible for his size.Tight ends they like who they feel they can get in rounds 3 and beyond:Tony Scheffler Western MichiganRyan Hamby Ohio StateBoone Stutz Texas A&MI don't know who Lance's bengal insider is, but it must be someone close to the team. He was right on target. I'm guessing they are happy with one of these tight ends. Bernard Pollard at #55...representing the boilers. Would have liked him in stripes next to Madieu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I'm not thrilled with the pick, but I did like Whitworth as a prospect even before we drafted him. He is a lot more athletic than people give him credit for and he could be a fine RT for us. It just makes me sick thinking of losing Willie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 This keeps feeding my theory that the Bengals are giving up on 2006. First two rounds they don't take anyone who projects to make a significant impact this year.It'll be a great comfort that we have a fantastic backup at OT when we have 1) no serviceable TE, 2) little depth at S, and 3) large problems on the Dline. Viva la 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffMan Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Ideally it looks for me that Willie is gone (sorry man, you cost $$$ and youre just a RT). Andrews will move into RT and Whitworth is depth at whatever T position Keift can't play. Unless Levi is out the door....then do we see Steinbach as a LT and Whitworth as a LG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I'm actually happy with the pick.We only have so much cap room we can't hand out $7million a year to 3 guys at the same time.I was expecting it to a LG to replace stienbach, but it looks like stienbach and Levi will be back. Willie will be let go, and that happens when your decline a 3 year $18million dollar extension.Catch you later willie.the cap goes up 7million next year + we have 7million next year and will have more money to spend with losing people like justin,tory + all 3 olinemens contracts go up which gives us more money spend on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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