Kiper's New Mock (4 rounds)

[DuffMan]

Actually I wouldn't be too upset with this draft:

Kiper's Picks: (My thoughts):

24. Cincinnati Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech (eh...given who was available i can live with this guy)

55. Cincinnati Dominique Byrd, TE USC (Klop was there....so was Kiwi )

91. Cincinnati Stanley McClover, DE Auburn (Quick pass rusher who is on the rise)

123. Cincinnati John McCargo, DT NC State (Wow, a lot of people have this guy in the 1st round)

All these guys could be big time play-makers....problem is that all could be big time busts as well.

First-Round Projections

1. Houston Reggie Bush, RB USC

2. New Orleans Mario Williams, DE NC State

3. Tennessee Matt Leinart, QB USC

4. N.Y. Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T Virginia

5. Green Bay A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio St.

6. San Francisco Vernon Davis, TE Maryland

7. Oakland Vince Young, QB Texas

8. Buffalo Brodrick Bunkley, DT Florida St.

9. Detroit Michael Huff, DB Texas

10. Arizona Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt

11. St. Louis Chad Greenway, LB Iowa

12. Cleveland Kamerion Wimbley, DE/OLB Florida St.

13. Baltimore Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon

14. Philadelphia Winston Justice, T USC

15. Denver (from ATL) Chad Jackson, WR Florida

16. Miami Donte Whitner, S Ohio St.

17. Minnesota Ernie Sims, LB Florida St.

18. Dallas Jason Allen, S/CB Tennessee

19. San Diego Johnathan Joseph, CB South Carolina

20. Kansas City Tye Hill, CB Clemson

21. New England Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio St.

22. Denver (from WSH) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis

23. Tampa Bay Antonio Cromartie, CB Florida St.

24. Cincinnati Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech

25. N.Y. Giants Kelly Jennings, CB Miami

26. Chicago Richard Marshall CB Fresno St.

27. Carolina LenDale White, RB USC

28. Jacksonville Marcedes Lewis, TE UCLA

29. N.Y. Jets (from DEN) Manny Lawson, DE/OLB NC State

30. Indianapolis Laurence Maroney, RB Minnesota

31. Seattle Ashton Youboty, CB Ohio St.

32. Pittsburgh Sinorice Moss, WR Miami

Second-Round Projections

33. Houston Eric Winston, T Miami

34. New Orleans Nick Mangold, C Ohio St.

35. N.Y. Jets Joseph Addai, RB LSU

36. Green Bay Tamba Hali, DE Penn St.

37. San Francisco Bobby Carpenter, LB Ohio St.

38. Oakland Gabe Watson, DT Michigan

39. Tennessee D'Qwell Jackson, LB Maryland

40. Detroit Davin Joseph, G Oklahoma

41. Arizona Leonard Pope, TE Georgia

42. Buffalo Taitusi "Deuce" Lutui, G USC

43. Cleveland Abdul Hodge, LB Iowa

44. Baltimore Brodie Croyle, QB Alabama

45. Philadelphia DeMeco Ryans, LB Alabama

46. St. Louis Orien Harris, DT Miami

47. Atlanta Cedric Griffin, CB Texas

48. Minnesota Kellen Clemens, QB Oregon

49. Dallas Marcus McNeill, T Auburn

50. San Diego Demetrius Williams, WR Oregon

51. Minnesota (from MIA) Chris Chester, OL Oklahoma

52. New England Brian Calhoun, RB Wisconsin

53. Washington Rocky McIntosh, LB Miami

54. Kansas City Darryl Tapp, DE Virginia Tech

55. Cincinnati Dominique Byrd, TE USC

56. N.Y. Giants Thomas Howard, LB UTEP

57. Chicago Greg Jennings, WR Western Michigan

58. Carolina Joe Klopfenstein, TE Colorado

59. Tampa Bay Andrew Whitworth, T LSU

60. Jacksonville Jason Spitz, C Louisville

61. Denver Mark Anderson, DE Alabama

62. Indianapolis Daniel Bullocks, DB Nebraska

63. Seattle Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College

64. Pittsburgh Danieal Manning, DB Abilene Christian

Third-Round Projections

65. Houston Ko Simpson, DB South Carolina

66. Houston (from NO) Gerris Wilkinson, LB Georgia Tech

67. Green Bay Max Jean-Gilles, G Georgia

68. San Francisco David Pittman, CB Northwestern St. (La.)

69. Oakland Maurice Drew, RB UCLA

70. Buffalo (from TEN) Ryan O'Callaghan, T California

71. N.Y. Jets Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin

72. Arizona Jon Alston, LB Stanford

73. Buffalo Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame

74. Detroit Devin Hester, CB Miami

75. New England (from BAL) Chris Gocong, DE/LB Cal Poly-SLO

76. Philadelphia Claude Wroten, DT LSU

77. St. Louis David Thomas, TE Texas

78. Cleveland Charles Spencer, G Pittsburgh

79. Atlanta Calvin Lowery, DB Penn St.

80. Dallas Charlie Whitehurst, QB Clemson

81. San Diego Paul McQuistan, OL Weber St.

82. Miami Parys Haralson, DE Tennessee

83. Minnesota Will Blackmon, WR/CB Boston College

84. San Francisco (from WSH) Victor Adeyanju, DE Indiana

85. Kansas City Brandon Marshall, WR Central Florida

86. New England Montavious Stanley, DT Louisville

87. N.Y. Giants Kyle Williams, DT LSU

88. Chicago Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame

89. Carolina Darnell Bing, DB USC

90. Tampa Bay Willie Reid, WR Fresno St.

91. Cincinnati Stanley McClover, DE Auburn

92. Jacksonville Jerome Harrison, RB Washington St.

93. Atlanta (from DEN) Devin Aromashodu, WR Auburn

94. Indianapolis Dusty Dvoracek, DT Oklahoma

95. Minnesota (from SEA) Le Kevin Smith, DT Nebraska

96. Pittsburgh Brent Hawkins, DE/OLB Illinois St.

97. N.Y. Jets (comp. pick) Roman Harper, DB Alabama

Fourth-Round Projections

98. Houston James Wyche, DE Syracuse

99. New Orleans Demetrice Webb, CB Florida

100. San Francisco Lawrence Vickers, FB Colorado

101. Oakland Anthony Smith, DB Syracuse

102. Tennessee Leon Washington, RB Florida St.

103. N.Y. Jets Alan Zemaitis, CB Penn St.

104. Green Bay Derrick Martin, CB Wyoming

105. Buffalo Elvis Dumervil, DE Louisville

106. New England (from DET) Guy Whimper, T East Carolina

107. Arizona Fred Matua, G USC

108. Philadelphia David Kirtman, FB USC

109. St. Louis Kevin Boothe, OL Cornell

110. Cleveland DeMario Minter, CB Georgia

111. Baltimore Dion Byrum, CB Ohio

112. Cleveland (from ATL) Rodrique Wright, DT Texas

113. San Diego Babatunde Oshinowo, DT Stanford

114. Miami Zach Strief, T Northwestern

115. Minnesota Miles Austin, WR Monmouth

116. Philadelphia (from DAL) Tarvaris Jackson, QB Alabama St.

117. N.Y. Jets (from KC) Greg Eslinger, C Minnesota

118. New England Derek Hagan, WR Arizona St.

119. Denver (from WSH) Owen Daniels, TE Wisconsin

120. Chicago Freddie Keiaho, LB San Diego St.

121. Carolina Jonathan Scott, T Texas

122. Tampa Bay Brandon Johnson, LB Louisville

123. Cincinnati John McCargo, DT NC State

124. N.Y. Giants Jeremy Trueblood, T Boston College

125. Jacksonville James Anderson, LB Virginia Tech

126. Denver Bernard Pollard, DB Purdue

127. Philadelphia (from IND) Hank Baskett, WR New Mexico

128. Seattle John Torp, P Colorado

129. Pittsburgh Andre Hall, RB South Florida

130. Denver (comp. pick) Jeremy Bloom, WR Colorado

131. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Daryn Colledge, T Boise St.

132. Baltimore (comp. pick) Rob Sims, G Ohio St.

133. Pittsburgh (comp. pick) Omar Jacobs, QB Bowling Green

[Stripes]

I highly doubt McCargo will be available in the 4th, or even the 3rd. He is moving up the boards pretty fast. Still, Kiper is not a Bengals homer, so it is good to see him come up with a draft as solid as this for us. I don't want Williams though.

Also Duffman, did you retreive this draft from an ESPN Insider article? If so, the mock in your post will have to be deleted. Your efforts are appreciated, but that could get Bengalszone into hot water.

[bengalboomer7]

It looks liek he just took info and pasted it, not the whole thing. I think(hope) it's OK

[ArmyBengal]

Williams is ok, but I hate his attitude !!!

If Kiwi was there in the 2nd, I'd take him.

Instead of Byrd in the 2nd, take Fasano in the 3rd.

McCargo in the 4th would be HUGE !!!

WHODEY !!!

[DuffMan]

I copied it from another forum (nfl-fans), I'm assuming that doesn't get me in trouble for spreading info that was already released by someone else on a public forum. but if not ill delete the crap.

[Indycat]

With the players Kiper has available, I'd rather have M. Lewis TE in the 1st and D. Bullocks DB in the 2nd.

[DesperateDerelict]

If you can believe little birdies: Fox Sports Article

8. A little birdie tells me that Bengals coach Marvin Lewis has fallen in love with UTEP linebacker Thomas Howard.

That would change your draft: Howard in the 2nd, a TE later.

[schweinhart]

Seems fairly solid all the way around.

I'd say he's got some guys too high but only time will tell:

1. Richard Marshall in the 1st: Solid wide CB but seems a round too early unless teams are really convinced he's ready to hang in man at the next level.

2. Ashton Youboty in the 1st: Same as above.

3. Kellen Clemens in the 2nd round. He's definitely been getting the private workouts to make his case and has the track record for timing out well on throws to quick break receivers, but this seems too high.

4. Dominique Byrd in the 2nd. Just can't see him going ahead of a TE as good as Joe Klop. Or Fasono for that matter.

5. Brent Hawkins in the 3rd. There's always somebody that pops in Day 1, but this one seems stretchy.

Then there's some players who look like they're undervalued:

1. Daryn Colledge in the 4th. He sure looks like one of the top O-lineman who is actually athletic enough to compete for a left tackle spot.

2. John McCargo in the 4th. There's some very real questions about McCargo that could make him slide this far, like how much of his success had to do with playing next to Super Mario and how recurrent will his foot stress fracture be. But McCargo's has enough track record to show he's got an ability for penetration that teams should value higher than the 4th round.

I do like seeing Dion Byrum in there -- he's got a whole lot of upside. And Willie Reid is on the rise.

[HairOnFire]

The thing that jumps out at me is how much talent there is in Kiper's 3rd round....and how much it reminded me about previously wanting to move up about 10-12 spots to take better advantage of it.

[princeton]

the strength of the 3rd/4th round talent should make it easier for us to move up in the first round.

OTOH, it's yet another great year to trade out of the first and to add a fourth rounder. I doubt that we're staying put.

[HairOnFire]

Third-Round Projections

65. Houston Ko Simpson, DB South Carolina

66. Houston (from NO) Gerris Wilkinson, LB Georgia Tech

67. Green Bay Max Jean-Gilles, G Georgia

68. San Francisco David Pittman, CB Northwestern St. (La.)

69. Oakland Maurice Drew, RB UCLA

70. Buffalo (from TEN) Ryan O'Callaghan, T California

71. N.Y. Jets Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin

72. Arizona Jon Alston, LB Stanford

73. Buffalo Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame

74. Detroit Devin Hester, CB Miami

75. New England (from BAL) Chris Gocong, DE/LB Cal Poly-SLO

76. Philadelphia Claude Wroten, DT LSU

77. St. Louis David Thomas, TE Texas

78. Cleveland Charles Spencer, G Pittsburgh

79. Atlanta Calvin Lowery, DB Penn St.

80. Dallas Charlie Whitehurst, QB Clemson

81. San Diego Paul McQuistan, OL Weber St.

82. Miami Parys Haralson, DE Tennessee

83. Minnesota Will Blackmon, WR/CB Boston College

84. San Francisco (from WSH) Victor Adeyanju, DE Indiana

85. Kansas City Brandon Marshall, WR Central Florida

86. New England Montavious Stanley, DT Louisville

87. N.Y. Giants Kyle Williams, DT LSU

88. Chicago Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame

89. Carolina Darnell Bing, DB USC

90. Tampa Bay Willie Reid, WR Fresno St.

91. Cincinnati Stanley McClover, DE Auburn

I have no real interest in moving up in the 1st round, but it would pain me a little to stay put at #91 while talent like above slipped away. And it wouldn't cost much to move up 5-10 or even 15-20 slots.

[NJ29]

Third-Round Projections

65. Houston Ko Simpson, DB South Carolina

66. Houston (from NO) Gerris Wilkinson, LB Georgia Tech

67. Green Bay Max Jean-Gilles, G Georgia

68. San Francisco David Pittman, CB Northwestern St. (La.)

69. Oakland Maurice Drew, RB UCLA

70. Buffalo (from TEN) Ryan O'Callaghan, T California

71. N.Y. Jets Brandon Williams, WR Wisconsin

72. Arizona Jon Alston, LB Stanford

73. Buffalo Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame

74. Detroit Devin Hester, CB Miami

75. New England (from BAL) Chris Gocong, DE/LB Cal Poly-SLO

76. Philadelphia Claude Wroten, DT LSU

77. St. Louis David Thomas, TE Texas

78. Cleveland Charles Spencer, G Pittsburgh

79. Atlanta Calvin Lowery, DB Penn St.

80. Dallas Charlie Whitehurst, QB Clemson

81. San Diego Paul McQuistan, OL Weber St.

82. Miami Parys Haralson, DE Tennessee

83. Minnesota Will Blackmon, WR/CB Boston College

84. San Francisco (from WSH) Victor Adeyanju, DE Indiana

85. Kansas City Brandon Marshall, WR Central Florida

86. New England Montavious Stanley, DT Louisville

87. N.Y. Giants Kyle Williams, DT LSU

88. Chicago Anthony Fasano, TE Notre Dame

89. Carolina Darnell Bing, DB USC

90. Tampa Bay Willie Reid, WR Fresno St.

91. Cincinnati Stanley McClover, DE Auburn

I have no real interest in moving up in the 1st round, but it would pain me a little to stay put at #91 while talent like above slipped away. And it wouldn't cost much to move up 5-10 or even 15-20 slots.

I'd rather hae McClover than all of those other guys.

[Spor_tees]

If Manny Lawson, Vernon Davis, or Bunkley are there at the Bengals pick in the first they have to stay put and take one of those guys. If none of those guys are there, the Bengals have to hope there are 2 teams in a bidding war for a certain guy and they are both trying to move up in front of the other. If that happens hopefully the Bengals can package their first and one of the seventh rounders together to pick up maybe a second and a third-fourth. Now if we can only get someone to take K-Wash off our hands.....

2 second rounders, 2 Third rounders, and 2 Fourth rounders in this years draft would ROCK!

Can you believe how far Martin Nance has fallen???

Second Round

1. Gabe Watson

2. K.O. Simpson

Third Round

1. Devin Hester

2. Anthony Fassano

Fourth Round

1. Rodrique Wright

2. Chris Gocong

Now that is a draft I could live with!

[HoosierCat]

I do like seeing Dion Byrum in there -- he's got a whole lot of upside.

Go Bobcats!

He certainly wowed in the Pitt game earlier this year, eh?

I would say he's definitely on people's radar scree...even got some love from draftnik Al Fromzack, the guy who runs eastcoastsports.com, a few days ago:

03/09...Every year there are several prospects that get drafted by NFL teams despite not receiving a Combine invite... Dion Byrum of the Ohio Bobcats is a Cornerback that falls into that category this year...Byrum isn't a common household name amoung draftniks... but he's on every teams radar screen!...Byrum is 5-11.1 192...has been clocked in the 40 at 4.33 and has recorded a 41" vertical jump...he has good size and the speed, athleticism and big play ability that Scouts look for in a Corner...his production on the field won't go unnoticed on Draft day since Byrum led the nation with 3 Defensive TD's and recorded 6 interceptions in which 2 were run back for scores...he was named to the 2nd Team All-American squad by the Associated Press and was invited to the East-West Shrine Game...Byrum carries a mid to late round grade going into the Draft despite being overlooked by the Combine invitees.

[Kazkal]

I agree with the bunk I agree with Davis but lawson? we have pollack and if we kept him at end then he'd be ran on all day long only way I wanna see lawson taken is if pollack is moved back too end which isen't fair to him imo

If Manny Lawson, Vernon Davis, or Bunkley are there at the Bengals pick in the first they have to stay put and take one of those guys. If none of those guys are there, the Bengals have to hope there are 2 teams in a bidding war for a certain guy and they are both trying to move up in front of the other. If that happens hopefully the Bengals can package their first and one of the seventh rounders together to pick up maybe a second and a third-fourth. Now if we can only get someone to take K-Wash off our hands.....

2 second rounders, 2 Third rounders, and 2 Fourth rounders in this years draft would ROCK!

Can you believe how far Martin Nance has fallen???

Second Round

1. Gabe Watson

2. K.O. Simpson

Third Round

1. Devin Hester

2. Anthony Fassano

Fourth Round

1. Rodrique Wright

2. Chris Gocong

Now that is a draft I could live with!