HoTbOy Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 I know 2 people who are going to be but i was just curious... Quote
DontPushMe Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 You know I would. Even with my opinion that Rudi is mediocre to above average aside. RBs are much less difficult to come by than a premeir pass rusher. Quote
bengalsLB Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 HHHEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOstupide ass idea Quote
BTG Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 You know I would. We could upgrade 2 positions with 1 trade.No way.Decent defensive ends are easier to find than 1500 yard running backs. Quote
DontPushMe Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Decent defensive ends are easier to find than 1500 yard running backs.Is this a joke? Quote
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Decent defensive ends are easier to find than 1500 yard running backs.Is this a joke? How many 1450 yard backs were there in the NFL last year? Seven. How many ends had ten sacks or more last year (Abraham 10.5)? Fourteen. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statisticsWho makes a bigger difference for a football team? An excellent running back or an excellent defensive end? Honestly this seems like a pretty novel concept to me. Quote
TecmoFever Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 You know, I was just talking to Marvin and he mentioned this very same thing. He said that since there was still a lot of uncertainty about the health of our franchise quarterback, he'd like to hand the entire offensive load onto a 3rd-year running back who has been injured more than not and has never had more than 9 rushing attempts in a game. He said that since he was ready to do this, our back-to-back 1400-yard rusher would certainly be expendable. He asked me who I thought he should try to trade Rudi for, and I mentioned Abraham...since Culpepper is now off the market. Quote
HoTbOy Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Posted March 15, 2006 Backs are easier to come by period...Do you see Indy worrying that Edge is gone...or the Ravens or even us with Cory, Rudi came right in and took over and someone else can do the same thing...what is our biggest problem besides stopping the run....NO PASS RUSH... Quote
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Backs are easier to come by period...Do you see Indy worrying that Edge is gone...or the Ravens or even us with Cory, Rudi came right in and took over and someone else can do the same thing...what is our biggest problem besides stopping the run....NO PASS RUSH...Who's gonna replace him? Perry? Oh God, the prospect of having him as our starter just makes me cringe. We'd go 9-7 at best against a schedule far easier than the one were about to enter. Draft one? Is the risky use of a first round pick on a new back and the aquisition of an aging defensive end anywhere near worth the loss of a FRANCHISE PLAYER (the stats don't lie)?NO!!!!!!!!!! Quote
HoTbOy Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Posted March 15, 2006 Then why waste a #1 pick on a guy to be a backup don't get me wrong im not a Perry fan I wanted Gamble Quote
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Then why waste a #1 pick on a guy to be a backupGood.Question.Ask the Bengals (or DPM, he seems to have all the answers on this matter). Quote
TecmoFever Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 The Bengals drafted Perry as:(1) insurance for Rudi, who had only had half a season in full-time duty(2) insurance for Carson, to give him as much of a chance to succeed as possible, and(3) a complement to RudiThey have a good thing going with the combo, so it worked out (assuming that Perry can stay healthy). Whether it was worth the number one pick is up for debate (especially when the last name Gamble should have been read after "Chris" that day). I think the Bengals thought it was worth the investment to give Carson as much of a chance to succeed as possible. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Stupid thread. I wouldn't trade Rudi for anything. Quote
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 The Bengals drafted Perry as:(1) insurance for Rudi, who had only had half a season in full-time duty(2) insurance for Carson, to give him as much of a chance to succeed as possible, and(3) a complement to RudiThey have a good thing going with the combo, so it worked out (assuming that Perry can stay healthy). Whether it was worth the number one pick is up for debate (especially when the last name Gamble should have been read after "Chris" that day). I think the Bengals thought it was worth the investment to give Carson as much of a chance to succeed as possible.Yeah, I was too quick to bash Perry in my last post. It just seemed the perfect moment for the sake of argument. I like to have them both in the games as well, as they both add their own dimensions to an offense that wouldn't be as effective without them.Rudi should in no way be traded for John Abraham, but that's no reason to get on Perry's case. Quote
Ox Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Wow this is a stupid ass thread. And why in the world would we trade a franchise, non-trouble making team player for an aging overpriced DE?Not a chance in hell that would ever happen. Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 The idea of trading Perry for Abraham is freaking brilliant. However, the idea of trading Rudi for that same player is pie-eyed stupid. Pie-eyed, I tell ya. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 15, 2006 Report Posted March 15, 2006 Not a chance in hell we let Rudi go.WHODEY !!! Quote
HoTbOy Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Posted March 15, 2006 Perry is insurance, well i'm about to call State Farm and cancel mine because I want that new insurance called Perry...#1 picks are picked to play not to be insurance...Brees is in the breeze why because that #1 pick time has come... i don't know the answer to this, but can someone tell me how many of the #1 picks that was drafted the same year as Perry is insurance and not starting...Is Cadillac on the bench no...was his partner on the bench no(had to share time with Ricky not his fault) yeah you can say Benson but I never thought he was all that anyway...I like Rudi too but if the chance came I'd be shipping him like FEDEX...have to lift some weights now i shall return... Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 Perry is insurance, well i'm about to call State Farm and cancel mine because I want that new insurance called Perry...#1 picks are picked to play not to be insurance...Brees is in the breeze why because that #1 pick time has come... i don't know the answer to this, but can someone tell me how many of the picks that was drafted the same year as Perry is insurance and not starting...Is Cadillac on the bench no...was his partner on the bench no(had to share time with Ricky not his fault) yeah you can say Benson but I never thought he was all that anyway...I like Rudi too but if the chance came I'd be shipping him like FEDEX...have to lift some weights now i shall return...That is just dumb. DUmb. Dumb x10Why would you just trade one of the best running backs in the league and a player is key to your potent offense? If you were the GM and did that, I would def. make sure your ass was fired. Quote
DontPushMe Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 Backs are easier to come by period...Do you see Indy worrying that Edge is gone...or the Ravens or even us with Cory, Rudi came right in and took over and someone else can do the same thing...what is our biggest problem besides stopping the run....NO PASS RUSH...Exactly.Who's gonna replace him? Perry? Oh God, the prospect of having him as our starter just makes me cringe. We'd go 9-7 at best against a schedule far easier than the one were about to enter. Draft one? Is the risky use of a first round pick on a new back and the aquisition of an aging defensive end anywhere near worth the loss of a FRANCHISE PLAYER (the stats don't lie)?NO!!!!!!!!!!In the end it probly wouldnt matter much. With a good offensive line, the RB means little. With our offensive line, there are at least 40 RBs in the NFL that could put up 1400 yards rushing per year on 300+ carries. The colts are a great example, watch next year, they wont lose a step regaurdless of who goes in.You guys blow rudi up to be way more than he is. Hes just a guy who does his job. He does nothing spectacular.The problem on this team is the lack of a pass rush, and Abraham is one of the elite pass rushers in the nfl. I doubt the Jets would consider a trade like that when they could probly get something more valueble like a 2nd round pick, but if offered that trade by them, Mike Brown would be all over it. Quote
Stripes Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 In the end it probly wouldnt matter much. With a good offensive line, the RB means little. With our offensive line, there are at least 40 RBs in the NFL that could put up 1400 yards rushing per year on 300+ carries. The colts are a great example, watch next year, they wont lose a step regaurdless of who goes in.Perhaps there are 40 players that could make it to 1,000 (I doubt even that).... but 1,400?!?! That is more than a "just doing his job" kind of feat. The man outrushed Corey freaking Dillon TWICE! Yes, we do need a pass rush, but going after an aging player with questionable motivation like Abraham would be the wrong way to solve that problem, especially at the loss of a Pro Bowl threat running back.Go to the draft and get a player to help the rush, rather than lose a huge chunk of your offensive production for an old man who is losing his capability to do that. Quote
B24 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Posted March 16, 2006 DPM would trade Rudi for a case of empty beer bottles. Quote
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