Spain Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Way slow hotwhatever, we are on our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 [url=http://www.com/sports/61020.htmIt was a valiant effort Spain. Unfortunately that damn link button has emerged victorious. About Arrington...I don't like this idea... If we sign him, how are we going to be able to afford a nose tackle such as Adams (assuming they are going for the 3-4, because I don't see Marvin moving Pollack back to DE in a million years)? I'm worried Marvin and company are veering a little too far off course from their usual philosophy. I liked the Jackson signing, and would have been fine leaving it at that. We can our other holes through the draft as usual. The defense isn't all that far away from being where we want it to be... I don't think we need to go on even a mild shopping spree to finish it.He's not worth the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Avtually I think this has been up their sleeves for sometime, some of us just didnt see it. the Pats and the Steelers all run the 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Also, I like Chris Perry now (when he's healthy), but I was LIVID when the Bengals drafted him instead of Chris Gamble a few years ago. I literally threw a box of kleenex across the room. I mean, Perry was the guy who KILLED the Bucks that year. And that was the last killing that could possibly be pinned on him. It would be hard for a 1st round pick to underachieve any more than Perry has. We could have done so much better with that pick IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 About Arrington...I don't like this idea... If we sign him, how are we going to be able to afford a nose tackle such as AdamsLike I said, a case can be made that it isn't the best use of their dime. But LaVar vs. Adams. C'mon. I'll take Arrington in a heartbeat. Shoot, Adams is down in Florida begging the Bengals to bid on him...if they want him he's yours for less than a B-rob-level deal. The fact that, apparently, no team in the league thinks he's worth dog poop ought to say something. He doesn't even factor into the equation. At this point I will give you even money he's not in football next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 About Arrington...I don't like this idea... If we sign him, how are we going to be able to afford a nose tackle such as AdamsLike I said, a case can be made that it isn't the best use of their dime. But LaVar vs. Adams. C'mon. I'll take Arrington in a heartbeat. Shoot, Adams is down in Florida begging the Bengals to bid on him...if they want him he's yours for less than a B-rob-level deal. The fact that, apparently, no team in the league thinks he's worth dog poop ought to say something. He doesn't even factor into the equation. At this point I will give you even money he's not in football next season.Ill take that bet...cuase he will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Like I said, a case can be made that it isn't the best use of their dime. But LaVar vs. Adams. C'mon. I'll take Arrington in a heartbeat. Shoot, Adams is down in Florida begging the Bengals to bid on him...if they want him he's yours for less than a B-rob-level deal. The fact that, apparently, no team in the league thinks he's worth dog poop ought to say something. He doesn't even factor into the equation. At this point I will give you even money he's not in football next season.I don't want Adams either. I just don't think Arrington would be a good fit here unless we really are planning on an eventual move to the 3-4, where we'd need a nose tackle to complete the deal. Adams was just the first example that came to mind. We could draft one too I suppose, but none of the prospects that I exect to be available look like a good choice, except maybe Watson... A big maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 I don't want Adams either. I just don't think Arrington would be a good fit here unless we really are planning on an eventual move to the 3-4, where we'd need a nose tackle to complete the deal. Adams was just the first example that came to mind. We could draft one too I suppose, but none of the prospects that I exect to be available look like a good choice, except maybe Watson... A big maybe.I like Watson. I thin we could use Arrington quote well even in a 4-3. As for the 3-4...I think it's the "zone blitz" of the Aughts (00's): the hot D which everyone will scheme against and kill within a couple of years. Someone already mentioned the idea of using Arrington as part of a Pats-style D that features a crap load of LBs and the ability to switch 3 and 4 man front seamlessly. Count me as a fan of that.Bottom line: the more I think about Arrington and what he could bring, the more I warm to the idea.But, unfortunately, I still think it won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Screw this. Where's Gilbert Brown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cover2 Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Biggest free agent signing since......Coy Bacon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Exactly how does signing Arrington make us a 3-4 defense? Will he be lining up at DT?Might I also remind the room that Marvin called Arrington the least disciplined player he had ever coached. This doesn't make him attractive to a team on the verge of great things.Sounds like somebody's bored with the Bengals' signings and wants to make up stories. They should talk to Sam Adams' agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Exactly how does signing Arrington make us a 3-4 defense? Will he be lining up at DT?Nope, he'd be right there at LB as usual! I meant that if we were to sign Arrington, then all the goofy claims that "we're heading towards a 3-4 defense" will suddenly hold a little more water. We'd obviously still have to grab a nose tackle to complete the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 We'd obviously still have to DRAFT a nose tackle to complete the deal.just a little revision to your statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 We'd obviously still have to DRAFT a nose tackle to complete the deal.just a little revision to your statement. If thats' how it is going to go down, then that's fine by me. I don't see any worthy prospects this year though, at least not that I expect to be there at #24.This discussion probably won't matter in the longrun, as I still have my doubts that they have any plans for a 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 It looks like Hobson doesn't buy it...Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 I'm glad Hobson agrees with me.However, there is a silver-lining to all these unfounded rumors (Arrington, Adams)...defensive veterans, especially ones who have played for Marvin, need there to be an interest from Marvin to have any credibility on the open market. It is now a badge of honor to have the Bengals interested in signing you.Here's the Poston quote regarding Marvin and Arrington:“Marvin [Lewis] definitely knows LaVar and there’s definitely interest there,” Poston said. “Marvin not only coached LaVar, but got to know him very intimately on the defensive side of the ball. Cincinnati is a great organization under Marvin’s leadership and I’m sure he would like to get LaVar in there if he could. I think Marvin will try to do that.”Why does it matter that Marvin got to know Arrington intimately? It doesn't. Unless you're trying to get points for having a player you say Marvin is interested in signing. Not only does Marvin like my guy, he knows my guy very well, and knows how valuable my guy is.This must be what it feels like to be one of the cool kids at school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 The more I think about it, Arrington would be a good signing. If Marvin can make him more disciplined he would be the first premier free-agent that the Bengals have ever signed. He is definitely a playmaker and he would have a lot more fire than Brian Simmons. It would show a change of the times where the Bengals are only used as leverage. The defense will have to make huge strides, and the Bengals have finally reached a point where they are a player away. I say go for it. Him and Sam Adams. In the draft they can get quality depth and the Bengals are ready to roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Screw all these guys and lets bring up Pickett again !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Possibly related note: Seahawks FA LB Kevin Bentley is coming in today. So the Bengals are looking at LBs in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Does this perhaps spell an earlier than expected doom for Simmons then? He's the only LB on the roster I could imagine replacing... Not even the depth guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 If the Bengals are looking this hard at linebackers, again, that must not be a good sign for Brian Simmons and Caleb Miller.PS: Webster looks like he's headed out to the Mountains. Bring me back a cool Rocky Mountain Lite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 If the Bengals are looking this hard at linebackers, again, that must not be a good sign for Brian Simmons and Caleb Miller.PS: Webster looks like he's headed out to the Mountains. Bring me back a cool Rocky Mountain Lite.Perhaps, although it could also be the possibility of getting an incredible talent at (possibly) a reduced price given the crap he went through here in DC. Having the chance to pick up a guy like him, if cheap enough, has to get a look. Although I'm sure the coaches also considered how fast Simmons is losing speed, that probably played a role. I don't think it affects Miller - he's just there for depth, Arrington has the potential to be a stud.As for Webster: if he gets any PT out there in the mountains, it'll be on Brokeback Mountain, I don't see Denver giving him much play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Is it just me... or does it seem downright stupid to replace Simmons with Arrington? Simmons may be losing a step... but Arrington doesn't cover anyone. At least Simmons is smart and knows the position. I don't know that Arrington can play WSLB well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Is it just me... or does it seem downright stupid to replace Simmons with Arrington? Simmons may be losing a step... but Arrington doesn't cover anyone. At least Simmons is smart and knows the position. I don't know that Arrington can play WSLB well.No, but Landon can. It's the other LBs we are looking at that make me wonder about the long term situation with Simmons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 The only way it makes sense is the 3-4 hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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