Bengals sign Dexter Jackson to 4-year deal

[jjakq27]

So what happens to Kim Herring?

[Whur CHad At?]

Prob. Cut, or backup---depth

[turningpoint]

hopefully cut, but then who knows i can't realy remember seeing him in a game.

[Stripes]

Herring would be a good depth option in my book. Granted, we'll probably draft another safety who could fill that role. If our top four safeties were Madieu, Jackson, Herring, and Mr. Draft Pick, I think that would be a solid group.

hopefully cut, but then who knows i can't realy remember seeing him in a game.

I believe he was injured in the preseason (soon after that rediculous blown play against Terrell Owens).

[HoosierCat]

Why bump your offer by 200k when you can save a couple hundred thousand more on a player you've ranked nearly equal? Seriously, a couple hundred thousand here and a couple more there and pretty soon you're talking about real money.

I would say the difference in money offered to McCree vs. Jackson belies Hobson's claim that they were ranked "nearly equal." Or that if they were, then the Bengals' rankings differed pretty significantly than everyone else's. I suspect that the Bengals simply had a ceiling they wouldn't go above for the slot, McCree hit it, so on to the next guy, who happened to be Jackson and who didn't have any better prospects elsewhere. And that ought to be a sobering thought since even Marquand Manuel got (slightly) better money.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Bengals' "original" ceiling for the spot was higher, but a few factors -- the Texans' offer to Walter, the rumor that some team will also offer Jeremi Johnson, and the rumored ongoing negotiatrions with Eric Steinbach that couldn't help but be impacted by that crazy Hutchinson deal in Minny -- may have caused them to back off. I get the impression they're scrambling a bit right now to keep up with events.

[Kazkal]

our chart probbley be madieu,Dexter,kim,KK & what ever SS we draft

I beleive we will select Ko Simpson sometime early

I'm thinking Ko but 2nd or 3rd round alot people saying first but still lack of experiance which could also make ngata fall /whistles

Ohalete was chosen because season alrdy started and no one else to pick

[HairOnFire]

I would say the difference in money offered to McCree vs. Jackson belies Hobson's claim that they were ranked "nearly equal." Or that if they were, then the Bengals' rankings differed pretty significantly than everyone else's. I suspect that the Bengals simply had a ceiling they wouldn't go above for the slot, McCree hit it, so on to the next guy, who happened to be Jackson and who didn't have any better prospects elsewhere.

If the players were comparably ranked then, all other factors being equal, money should dictate the choice. And we're not talking about just 200k here. We're talking about the difference between what McCree demanded and the amount Jackson signed for. Besides, Jackson's prospects were just as good as those of Will Demps or Lawyer Milloy, two players that are still looking for work, one because he sucks and the other because he's asking too much.

[HoosierCat]

If the players were comparably ranked then, all other factors being equal, money should dictate the choice.

If the players were comparably ranked, then the money should have been comparable as well. It wasn't...so either the rankings or the money were out of whack. Time will tell.

[Spor_tees]

Can you really keep that many safeties on the roster?

1. Dexter Jackson

2. Madieu

3. KK

4. Kim Herring

5. Draft Pick

6. Anthony Mitchell

7. Indiana Jones

8. Body

9. Bua

Don't the Bengals try to stay with only 4-5 safeties? What are they going to do with all these guys? I assume they are letting Mitchell go, Jones was a practice squad guy but up and coming, but then what? We have a total overload of safeties!

We have 8 Safeties and one free agent safety and only 4 corners and one free agent corner on the roster. With Greg Brooks as our 4th corner. Do the Bengals plan on switching any of the safeties to corner? I guess we could always have KK play spot duty at corner, but we have to get rid of some of these safeties and pick up another corner.

[Kazkal]

6. Anthony Mitchell is gone I thought this season as others practice squad fodder

[kingwilly]

Count on Body "challenging James for playing time" according to Hobson.

My view----

Starters:

1. Dexter Jackson

2. Madieu

Back-ups

3. KK

5. Draft Pick - hope he likes ST'ing it.

one the fence:

7. Indiana Jones - could be our ST ace with Walter gone...

Cornerback:

8. Body

Gone:

4. Kim Herring

6. Anthony Mitchell

9. Bua

[Kochman]

Count on Body "challenging James for playing time" according to Hobson.

My view----

Starters:

1. Dexter Jackson

2. Madieu

Back-ups

3. KK

5. Draft Pick - hope he likes ST'ing it.

one the fence:

7. Indiana Jones - could be our ST ace with Walter gone...

Cornerback:

8. Body

Gone:

4. Kim Herring

6. Anthony Mitchell

9. Bua

My views exactly. Ive seen people wanting to cut Kevin. I thought he played decent last season nothing special but solid.

[andybren]

Count on Body "challenging James for playing time" according to Hobson.

My view----

Starters:

1. Dexter Jackson

2. Madieu

Back-ups

3. KK

5. Draft Pick - hope he likes ST'ing it.

one the fence:

7. Indiana Jones - could be our ST ace with Walter gone...

Cornerback:

8. Body

Gone:

4. Kim Herring

6. Anthony Mitchell

9. Bua

I concur. And I think Herring's salary will help show him to the door. But is Body really as big a contender as the beat writers say? Isn't Ratliff ahead of him on the depth chart?

[turningpoint]

I beleive we will select Ko Simpson sometime early

There's a fine line between what ou want to happen and what will happen.

And, in regards to your sig, I can find a picture of any DB in the league getting burned. It happens.

pay no attention to him, that man is a moron. he thinks tank wiilliams or lawyer milloy would be better in coverage.

[walzav29]

You guys are forgetting how horrible Ohalete was last year. Didn't everyone say O'Neal was a bum as well? This guy is an absolute upgrade to what they had last year, and the defense is inching closer. The Bengals can now focus on DT, DE, and a corner in the draft. It's good news. Lawyer is way too old.

[turningpoint]

You guys are forgetting how horrible Ohalete was last year. Didn't everyone say O'Neal was a bum as well? This guy is an absolute upgrade to what they had last year, and the defense is inching closer. The Bengals can now focus on DT, DE, and a corner in the draft. It's good news. Lawyer is way too old.

No1 will ever forget how horrible ohelete was.

Anyways you must not be reading my posts, this was my #1 safety FA after watching him on some film.

He'll be our Zone safety, and help out over the middle of the field and come up and make the run stopping tackle.

madiue will have less pressure on him now and be able to some up in the slot and defend if needed to on the TE or 3rd WR or hell even help double team the #1 wr. Especially with the ability of our corners to usually shut down the WR one on one with little help. the corners take thw wr's outside, madiue shuts down the close range middle wih his coverage skills and with Jackons experience he'll be able to ball hawk and fill in for the run and stop anything deep over the middle.

Anything along the sidelines is considered the corners fault.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Herring would be a good depth option in my book. Granted, we'll probably draft another safety who could fill that role. If our top four safeties were Madieu, Jackson, Herring, and Mr. Draft Pick, I think that would be a solid group.

hopefully cut, but then who knows i can't realy remember seeing him in a game.

I believe he was injured in the preseason (soon after that rediculous blown play against Terrell Owens).

KK is going nowhere. Herring goes long before KK.

[turningpoint]

if we cut Herring now, i don;t see why we can't go after another FA safety, just to add depth. Hell the seahawks were loaded at safety and they needed it.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Can you really keep that many safeties on the roster?

1. Dexter Jackson

2. Madieu

3. KK

4. Kim Herring

5. Draft Pick

6. Anthony Mitchell

7. Indiana Jones

8. Body

9. Bua

Don't the Bengals try to stay with only 4-5 safeties? What are they going to do with all these guys? I assume they are letting Mitchell go, Jones was a practice squad guy but up and coming, but then what? We have a total overload of safeties!

We have 8 Safeties and one free agent safety and only 4 corners and one free agent corner on the roster. With Greg Brooks as our 4th corner. Do the Bengals plan on switching any of the safeties to corner? I guess we could always have KK play spot duty at corner, but we have to get rid of some of these safeties and pick up another corner.

Mitchell isn't really a safety, he's a special teams player who MIGHT line up at safety in a pinch. It's no different than trying to call St. Louis a tight end.

Bua, Body, and Jones are practice squad fodder none of them will be likely to make the squad.

[derekshank]

For everyone who thinks that Dexter can't play... I searched for the Buc fans opinion of this move.

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=114754

It seems pretty positive across the board. He was a good player... but he's not elite anymore... and they like Will Allen to take over for him.

It's a good signing, at a good price. Nothing to complain about... nothing to wet your pants about. He's better than anything we have, and will cut down on the huge plays Ohalete gave up. That's pretty much all we need back there. We can't have pro-bowlers at every position, and given our other needs, this will be more than adequate since we won't have to use a 1st or 2nd round pick on a Safety.... and we will still probably draft a S early on the second day to take over for Dex eventually. I think it is a solid move. no need to mourn or panic... no need to cry tears of joy. Moderation seems to be something that is lacking in this thread.

[TippCityRick]

Nice signing at the right price. I would agree that he has the potential to be O2 or Herring due to past injuries, but if Marvin likes him then I'm in his court.

If Jackson stays healthy he should improve our overall tackling because he's athletic and can get into position. O had the ability to tackle, but with great regularity he wasn't in position to.

Finally we can now open up the posibility of a Corner at 24 to groom behind Tory and posibly move him to safety next year.

[TJJackson]

Source: Bengals agree with Jackson

By GEOFF HOBSON

March 13, 2006

1:45 p.m.

According to a NFL source, the Bengals have reached a four-year deal with Tampa Bay safety Dexter Jackson, their first free-agent of the offseason. No terms were available.

The salaries were just released on KFFL

Bengals | Contract update: D. Jackson

Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:50:04 -0800

Cincinnati Bengals FS Dexter Jackson signed a four-year contract that includes base salaries of $800,000 (2006), $1.0 million (2007), $1.3 million (2008) and $1.5 million (2009).

[Spor_tees]

Damn, how do they geta guy that cheap? Isn't Kevin Walter going to make more than that with the Texans?

[ArmyBengal]

Thats a great deal for him. He's an upgrade at a cheap price and will be able to school up the youngsters we are going to draft. I like it a lot more now than what I did initially. It wasn't as bad as I thought initially either...

WHODEY !!!

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Source: Bengals agree with Jackson

By GEOFF HOBSON

March 13, 2006

1:45 p.m.

According to a NFL source, the Bengals have reached a four-year deal with Tampa Bay safety Dexter Jackson, their first free-agent of the offseason. No terms were available.

The salaries were just released on KFFL

Bengals | Contract update: D. Jackson

Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:50:04 -0800

Cincinnati Bengals FS Dexter Jackson signed a four-year contract that includes base salaries of $800,000 (2006), $1.0 million (2007), $1.3 million (2008) and $1.5 million (2009).

Looks like a round 1 or 2 safety pick to me....