HairOnFire Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Put me in Camp Positive. My first choice was Milloy but they had their chance and didn't offer him a contract. I have no doubt that was due to money, and I have no problem with that. Dexter is still a good player, and they got him for 4 years at a modest price. That'll do. BTW, it's a very good signing, if for no other reason than it means Will Demps won't be signed. No kidding, that guy showed up on more Bengal highlites than Matt Schobel ever did. Quote
Spain Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 exactly but some times the products cheap.Milloy cant cover, ask their fans. Quote
Stripes Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 My first choice was Milloy but they had their chance and didn't offer him a contract. I have no doubt that was due to money, and I have no problem with that. Dexter is still a good player, and they got him for 4 years at a modest price. That'll do. I agree. I don't think Jackson was the best option available, but this is still a pleasant surprise considering what we're used to seeing this time of year... Throw in a new safety from the draft, and suddenly a thin position of 2005 becomes deep for 2006.The Bengals are slowly running out of weaknesses... Quote
oldschooler Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 I loved how Marvin said in the press conference, "that Dexter is entering his secondstint in Free Agency and that he went into it differently this time."And Jackson said he "signed with the Bengals for less money, to be on a championshipcaliber team. " Quote
HoTbOy Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Is there a safety in the draft that should start over him if he is healthy? Maybe in 1 or 2 years from now...I'm all for drafting a CB or a S but this is good, he knows how to play his position... Quote
blueridge Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Um he had 54 tacklesl ast year and 1 int and 1 sack, which is perfect for just playing 11 games.anyways here's the ESPn article.4 year 7.6 million, we got him for a steal compared to what everyone else is signing plays for, f**k the redskins just gave archuleta 5 million a year!http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2366753how the hell are redskins signing everyone they were freaking 10million over o_OPat Kirwan from NFL.com was just discussing this very question on NFL Sirius radio. He said the Redskins were backloading the free agent contracts in order to fit them under the new salary cap. In other words, when they release these guys in two to three years the 'skins will once again be in cap hell. Their approach is the polar opposite of the Bengals. Kirwan also said that the most successful teams were patient and refrained from participation in the weekend signing frenzy. Maybe he is right. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 exactly but some times the products cheap.Milloy cant cover, ask their fans.Boy it's a good thing we didn't sign Milloy then.....(Plus put down the bong) Quote
Stripes Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 He's already lookin' snazzy in the orange in black. He also looks wasted. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 God he looks happy...I honestly believe you guys when you say he's an upgrade and hope for great things from him assuming he stays healthy, but you have to understand the concern of what initially appears to be Herring Jr. in regards to injuries. If you don't understand and I'm off base, then I guess I'm all F*CKED up. Here's hoping for the best and hoping Jackson can fill the void we are needing filled !!!WHODEY !!! Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 I hope he is a thug...if he ain't I will loose any respect that I had for him Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 He's already lookin' snazzy in the orange in black. He also looks wasted. Good, then he'll get along well with Spain and Dopey Henry. Quote
Stripes Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 He's already lookin' snazzy in the orange in black. He also looks wasted. Good, then he'll get along well with Spain and Dopey Henry. We should try Spain out at safety when he's on one of his shroom trips. Just goofin' Spain. Quote
Spain Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 He will fit our scheme, the guy is smart enough where to go. Im feeling better and better about this especialy when we have depth with KK and a high draft pick. When you think about the rotation and see that KK will come in on the dime Jackson can cover the others him and KK might make one hell of a rotation. Throw a young guy in that enviroment and you have solved are safety problems because we will be three deep at least. I noticed he also played STs pretty weel. Quote
KiLBurn Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 I like the signing.This is how you build a team without going bankrupt. Improves the team and doesn't cost a lot to do it, especially considering that the subtraction part of the equation has yet to be factored in. Addition by Subtraction. From Kirks blog - Kim Herring is signed through the 2008 season. He’s scheduled to earn $1,100,000 in 2005, $1,200,000 in 2006, $1,400,000 in 2007, and $1,500,000 in 2008. Here's another one that looks tempting... Wonder what the cap hit is when he is shown the door.From Kirks Blog - John Thornton is signed through the 2008 season. He’s scheduled to earn $2,500,000 in 2005, $2,750,000 in 2006, $3,250,000 in 2007, $3,500,000 in 2008. Isn't Adams looking for the same money as listed above? Seeya John. Quote
NJ29 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 If there's one thing that makes me comfortable with this signing.... It's that Marvin loves this guy. If Marvin thinks he can make a difference, so do I. I would trust that man with my life.In Marvin We Trust. Who Dey! Quote
turningpoint Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 This is a good signing for the Bengals....1) a veteran who can help develop Madieu and the rookie we'll still draft2) plays run and pass....perfect fit for Marvin's system3) from a very good defense (Tampa Bay)4) Super Bowl experience5) price was reasonableThis is definitely an upgrade that did not break the bank.Exactly but that isn;t good enough for most people here.And that surprises you? You forget the past too quickly. For instance, change the team in point 3 to Baltimore and you have a perfect description of Kim Herring. well no herringcame from the rams and was older when we signed him.IMO jackson still has 3 years left before any signs of age come about.I just don;t understand why people get all worked up this time of year, they know we are not going to go sign some big name FA.seriously who have the pats signed? how about the steelers? Colts? Seattle? list goes on and on.last i checked they're just as successful if not more successful then us, and they aren't signing s**t.So would everyone stop bitching about us not isgning some name for $5 million a year. Quote
Kazkal Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 He seems like he has good character I'm not minding the signing he's depth he's not that bad and we can still draft a SS and not rush em Quote
BengalByTheBay Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 Personally -- I'm pretty good with this signing. It kinda reminds me of a few seasons ago when Dre Bly was the big FA at CB and we needed one. Det signed him for huge $$ and we ended up signing Tory. I think that ML continues to work his plan of getting as much bang for the buck as possible in FA, even if it means skipping almost everyone. This makes Herring cutable or depth. DJack will be better in ten years than Ohalete was this past season. It's an upgrade, with limits of course. If we sign a good safety prospect in the first 3 rounds then I will really be okay with this decision. Like most here, I wouldn't be okay with standing pat with this defensive backfield as it is. We still need to draft somebody who will be our starter in 2-3 years behind Jackson. Quote
CBin2k7 Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 “ I felt if I just go to a sorry defense like Arizona, I can make it better by myself,” Jackson said. “I found out you can’t do that. It takes a core of guys to be good. I learned from that. What I see here is a core of young guys and a lot of vets who have the same goal. To try and be the best defense. That’s what I want to be a part of.” I thought that quote was pretty funny. Seems like D-Jack didn't like his stay in Zona very much. Quote
bengalsLB Posted March 13, 2006 Report Posted March 13, 2006 i like this signing. Dexter is good in run support and in Zone coverage.his man to man coverage isn't that good though. i really wanted Milloy but Dexter is better in coverage and will be able to give us more years.and i'm pretty sure the Cardinals Cut Dexter because he was injuried Quote
HoosierCat Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 So would everyone stop bitching about us not isgning some name for $5 million a year.Well, I'm not one of them.But as long as we're talking dollars, Hobson's story on Jackson says the Bengals could have had McCree if they'd bumped from $3 million to $3.2 million. Quote
Stripes Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 So would everyone stop bitching about us not isgning some name for $5 million a year.Well, I'm not one of them.But as long as we're talking dollars, Hobson's story on Jackson says the Bengals could have had McCree if they'd bumped from $3 million to $3.2 million. In that case, my guess is that Marvin was targeting Jackson out of the two. Even the Bengals couldn't penny-pinch THAT bad unless they feel there's a good reason... Their grades of the two safeties would be my assumption. Quote
derekshank Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 So would everyone stop bitching about us not isgning some name for $5 million a year.Well, I'm not one of them.But as long as we're talking dollars, Hobson's story on Jackson says the Bengals could have had McCree if they'd bumped from $3 million to $3.2 million. Well that may be true... but chances are it would have become a bidding war... and the price would have been significantly higher. We have Jackson for a long-term deal, and a relatively cheap price.And as the self-appointed voice of reason, I'd like to bring balance to both sides of the argument. To quote myself from another thread...But by the looks of it... we will continue to use FA simply as a means of getting depth... and use the draft as a means of getting starters.When I saw this move on the ESPN ticker my thought was "whatever". He will probably start this year, maybe next... but after that will do nothing more but provide depth for the younger guys they will be trying to get ready. He may end up like Herring, and not even be on the team in a couple years... but the point is, he should do a much better job than Ohalete... but he is also not a blockbuster move. He's a decent move in keeping with the Bengal's philosophy. He'll be a stop-gap solution until a younger stud can be brought up. All in all... good move to try to get us to the next level while we are still building the defense. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote
Stickman Posted March 14, 2006 Report Posted March 14, 2006 He's already lookin' snazzy in the orange in black. He also looks wasted. That's exactly what I was going to say!! He looks like an AA poster-boy!! Somebody call that show "Intervention"... lol Quote
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