Wraith Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Rd. 1: Gabe WatsonRd. 2: Dominic ByrdRd. 3: Cedric GriffinI know that there are alot of Watson bashers, and I admitt to being somewhat confused when watching his game tape, how someone of his athletic ability does not dominate his competition on a snap by snap basis, but if Marvin selects this guy in Rd. 1 I have every confidence in his ability to get the most out of him.I like Byrd, he is polished and should have a good rapport with Palmer.I thin Griffin might be the steal of the draft, he can play all the positions in the DB, he has a great understanding of the game and truly loves to play it. Griffin was an animal on special teams and might start right away at S for us. He has the size and speed people are looking for in that position, in the third I think he is a great pickup.All in All a good project, wouldn't be upset at all about this draft.LINK: http://www.gbnreport.com/2006projection.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 If that's the way day 1 went down I wouldn't complain, but while I think Watson is worth the pick (others differ) I also think that, for better or worse, he isn't Marvin's preferred type of DT. He's a big space-eater but lacks the athleticism Lewis craves.Bunkley would be more his style, but I think Brodrick will be off the board by 24. And in that case, if they still feel they have to go with a DT, I would expect them to go with Wright over Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I'm hoping Bunkley is still there at 24, and that we pick him. However, I wouldn't be surprised if we pick someone that makes me scratch my head, look at my list, and try to find him, again. Marvin is hateful in his ability to confound us! (But he has made some damned fine picks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 IMHO Taking Cromartie or Pope or Ko Simpson with the first pick would make more sense for the Bengals -- because they are better PLAYERS than Watson. There will be plenty of "fat" defensive tackles later in the draft that only play sometimes. I'd much rather see the Bengals take Chad Jackson, WR, Florida, than Watson. The fun starts now-- when we all begin picking our favorites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 IMHO Taking Cromartie or Pope or Ko Simpson with the first pick would make more sense for the Bengals -- because they are better PLAYERS than Watson. There will be plenty of "fat" defensive tackles later in the draft that only play sometimes. I'd much rather see the Bengals take Chad Jackson, WR, Florida, than Watson. The fun starts now-- when we all begin picking our favorites Pass on Cormartie, but the rest I agree with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Watson would be fine -- and will be for whoever lands him. If there was a top DT prospect in the last 20 years who didn't get the "takes plays off" tag I must have missed it (I've even seen it affixed to Ngata this year).I've maintained for years, and still do, that the Bengals lack a "big fatty": a 2-gap DT who can soak up lineman and let one of the smaller 1-gap types (Thornton, Robinson, etc.) do their thing. Sam Adamas is the perfect example. Put a man-mountain like Siragusa or Pat Williams next to him and he kicks a$$. Put him next to Bryan Robinson and he'll look exactly like John Thornton.The Bengals could do a lot worse than Watson...like pissin' the pick away on Pope or Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 DT or Safety in the 1st and I'll be happy. (Hell maybe the 2nd as well) Wouldn't quibble over a CB, but would prefer one of the first two...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Watson would be fine -- and will be for whoever lands him. If there was a top DT prospect in the last 20 years who didn't get the "takes plays off" tag I must have missed it (I've even seen it affixed to Ngata this year).I've maintained for years, and still do, that the Bengals lack a "big fatty": a 2-gap DT who can soak up lineman and let one of the smaller 1-gap types (Thornton, Robinson, etc.) do their thing. Sam Adamas is the perfect example. Put a man-mountain like Siragusa or Pat Williams next to him and he kicks a$$. Put him next to Bryan Robinson and he'll look exactly like John Thornton.The Bengals could do a lot worse than Watson...like pissin' the pick away on Pope or Jackson. Just to refresh your memory, Tommy Harris did NOT carry the tag as player who took off plays and he has been an effective force. Jim Kennedy did carry the tag and he has been a flop -- wasted pick.You are right about Gabe Watson not being a Marvin kind of player-- I believe Marvin wants football PLAYERS. IMO Watson does NOT make enough plays to be in the first Round.I, too, believe that the Bengals need some beef on the defensive line -- I just don't believe there is any DT (after Ngata) worth a first Round pick. IMO The Bengals should use the first Rd pick to get someone that will upgrade the offense or defense. That list is getting smaller as the Bengals get better -- but that list still includes S, CB, DT, OL and, yes even, WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 i agree with bengal papaw on watson he is not a good pick in the 1st . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GROIIIDayton Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Round 1If manny Lawson is there like this draft is showing we better take him.Round 2Anthony Fasano is a better TE then Dominique Byrd is in my opinion and he is still there.Round 3 I love the cedric Griffin pick but would be amazed if he was still on the board at that slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Manny Lawson? Are you smoking dope? The last thing we need in round 1 is Lawson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GROIIIDayton Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 TNBT- I would bet anything that if he is avalible when we pick Marvin will be dancing in the War Room. He will not be there anyway, but if he is we will pick him. He will be a probowler next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Count me as one that isn't interested in Manny Lawson. We already have a size-lacking pass rush specialist that is better suited as a linebacker in the NFL than an end. Lawson looks to me like a lesser version of Pollack. I think there will be better options availabe when we pick.But hell what would I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Lawson does intrigue me, but think if Hali or Kiwi is there, they would be the better option for us. I'm still holding out hope for a DT or Saftey. Bunkley or Simpson would be my hopes...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GROIIIDayton Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Marvin will draft the best player available like he said. Manny Lawson is a top 10 pick that will probably drop out of the top ten. IF he drops to all the way to us we couldn't pass on him. He is going to be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesperateDerelict Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Marvin will draft the best player available like he said. Manny Lawson is a top 10 pick that will probably drop out of the top ten. IF he drops to all the way to us we couldn't pass on him. He is going to be great.We have about as much chance having Lawson drop to us as we do Michael Huff - He's a David Pollack clone, and will be snapped up to play the same role as DP.I HATE seeing Rod Wright on people's draft boards in Round 1 - he'll be there in Round 2 (has dropped due to lack of motor and disappointing metrics), as well as Fasano (best all-round TE), Bing (lack of speed dropping him), Cromartie (who wants to spend $6,000,000 on bad knees?), and others (Orien, Byrd, Wimbley, Bullochs, etc.) I wouldn't be surprised having us 'reach' for a PLAYER that won't be around in Round 2, Like Jason Allen or Donte.Of course, based on Lewis 1st round history (Palmer, Perry, Pollack), it's obvious that Leonard Pope will be our selection. I would REALLY like to see us trade down - maybe grab Houston's 2nd and 3rd rounders. An extra day 1 pick will help us alot more than pick #24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 CRAP! I think DD may have a point.... I may have to buy someone a jersey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I would REALLY like to see us trade down - maybe grab Houston's 2nd and 3rd rounders. An extra day 1 pick will help us alot more than pick #24. I'm usually in favor of trading down, I love extra picks. Still, this year it looks like we'll have plenty of valuable options available at our positions of need when the 24th pick is up. If all the good ones are gone, then by all means trade down and get them picks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I agree that there will be someone sitting at #24 that will be of huge service to us. I try to get out of the habit of just saying beyond a shadow of a doubt that so and so won't be there at #24. Now obviously Bush, Hawk, and players going REAL early aren't going to be there, but someone will slide. It always happens and we will be there waiting this go round. I just can't see there being no one that can help our defense out. WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesperateDerelict Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 ..... but someone will slide. It always happens and we will be there waiting this go round. I just can't see there being no one that can help our defense out. WHODEY !!!That's the fun of predicting the draft, army . . . WHO will slide, and why? There are enough intruguing players in the top, middle, and bottom of the 1st two rounds that a few teams are likely to snatch a player they've become enamored with "too early". When this happens, players slide. Also, information about certain players that are not common knowledge can make a player tumble 2 or three ROUNDS.My predictions now (3/8): Taken at least 1/2 round too early: Whitner, Lawson, Carpenter, McCargo, most CB's (Hill, Joseph, Youboty).Sliders (half a round later than anticipated): Cromartie, Kiwi, all DT's except Ngata & McCargo, all TE's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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