Lavar Arrington

[DuffMan]

I just heard a wiff of this over at Bengals.com, but since Lavar Arrington is a probable FA this offseason do you think Marvin should/would pursue him? Marvin did coach Arrington while d-corridnator for the redskins, so I'm sure he would know what to expect from him, and when Lewis was with the skins Arrignton was one of the best LBs in the league from a play-making standpoint. Granted the guy seemed to be a bit of a hot-head this season, maybe all he needs is a change of scenery . He was a great pass rusher and we could always use that. Only if the money is right is my standpoint, and I am aware of the Henry situation btw and believe character concerns are a major part of FA signings, but that wasn't stopping us with Sapp in my mind when Marvin was going after him so hard.

Thoughts?

Eeek, the way it looks he's prolly gonna cost big bucks:

"Arrington pays 'Skins to become free agentESPN.com news services

Arrington

LaVar Arrington will become a free agent after agreeing Sunday night to pay the Washington Redskins over $4 million in cash to get out of his contract with the team. As part of the deal, the Redskins have placed Arrington on waivers.

A team source said that the move would have been made irrespective of any delay in the waiver deadline Sunday evening.

Over the last few days, the Redskins have asked several veterans to restructure their contracts so that the team could get under the salary cap. Arrington was the only Redskins player who refused to rework his deal, The Associated Press reported.

Arrington had a $12.045 million cap number and was due a $6.5 million roster bonus. By taking the money, the Redskins will save approximately $4.2 million with his release. They entered Sunday $17.7 million over the salary cap.

In January, the NFL Players Association filed a formal complaint seeking disciplinary action against Carl Poston, Arrington's agent, for "neglect" in negotiating Arrington's contract near the end of the 2003 season, union and league sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The "neglect" had to do with Arrington's $6.5 million bonus.

Arrington did not see much playing time early in the 2005 season as he worked his way back from offseason knee surgery. The former Penn State standout became disgruntled over his diminished role, though it is unclear whether those feelings have played a part in the current negotiations. The three-time Pro Bowl linebacker regained his starting job against Philadelphia on Nov. 6.

Arrington played in 11 regular season games for Washington in 2005, recording 47 tackles. He also played in the team's two postseason games, and had 12 tackles.

Information from ESPN. com senior NFL writer John Clayton and The Associated Press was used in this report."

[walzav29]

The word was that Lavar was always out of position, which is a Marvin Lewis no-no. You have to do your job. That along with being very expensive would lead me to believe he won't be coming to Cincy. I think he'll be a Raider.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

I have but three words.... NO NO NO ok, five words NO NO NO NO NO NO!

Seriously, the last thing we need is a linebacker who is out of position with an attitude problem who wants a lot of money.

[bengalboomer7]

They said it. For every great play he makes he causes a great play to happen against him

[Whur CHad At?]

The word was that Lavar was always out of position, which is a Marvin Lewis no-no. You have to do your job. That along with being very expensive would lead me to believe he won't be coming to Cincy. I think he'll be a Raider.

If there isn't a new cap set in place, he def. will not be a Raider because they are way over the cap too, and they are trimming down mass to their roster. My guess he will prob. be Brown.

[Dirk Funk]

Didn't he pay more to be released then the total $$$ we have under the cap if it remains at $94mill?

No way he comes to Cinti. Was a pro-bowler? Also missed an entire season 2 years ago right? No way. The speculation is terrible.

Oh yeah, look at how Sharper turned out in Washington? Marvin knows what he is doing.

[jrandom42]

I just heard a wiff of this over at Bengals.com, but since Lavar Arrington is a probable FA this offseason do you think Marvin should/would pursue him? Marvin did coach Arrington while d-corridnator for the redskins, so I'm sure he would know what to expect from him, and when Lewis was with the skins Arrignton was one of the best LBs in the league from a play-making standpoint. Granted the guy seemed to be a bit of a hot-head this season, maybe all he needs is a change of scenery . He was a great pass rusher and we could always use that. Only if the money is right is my standpoint, and I am aware of the Henry situation btw and believe character concerns are a major part of FA signings, but that wasn't stopping us with Sapp in my mind when Marvin was going after him so hard.

Thoughts?

Marvin and Chuck are screaming "Do Your Job!" almost every 30 seconds during practice and you want to sign what Marvin called 'the most undisciplined player I've ever seen"? And you thought Marvin and Corey Dillon had a personality conflict!

[TJJackson]

Pass

[Stripes]

Pass

Agreed.

[turningpoint]

I would love to have him,but he's goingto commend a $6million a year deal, plus signing bonus.

[ArmyBengal]

As I believe has already been stated, I can't see him paying 4 million to get out of a contract to come here and play for peanuts. On the flip side though, I can't say as I want his monkeyass on the team either.

WHODEY !!!

[Spain]

He is a year to late!

[turningpoint]

I don;t think you guys realize this guy is a younger better takeo spikes IMO.

[derekshank]

I don;t think you guys realize this guy is a younger better takeo spikes IMO.

Younger... sure, but better is a relative term. He may have more athletic ability, but he is known for being so incredibly selfish, stubborn and uncoachable that he couldn't even find his way onto the field for a lot of the season. I don't think we need to pay big money for a guy with a bad attitude at a position we don't need that much. We need a SS, a CB, a DT and a DE much more than another LB.

[turningpoint]

O iknow you musth ave issed my earlier post, i sure as hell don;t want him for the price he's going to went.

[johnson85]

I agree with everyone else, I don't think we need him I much rather have a killer SS or CB or DT....Just thought I would throw this out there. Here is our OLB stats and Arringtons stats for the season.

Lavar Arrington- Stats

CIN-Stats

Both Brian Simmons and Landon Johnson ranked much higher than him. And Odell ranked higher than both of them at #30.

[Spain]

If we did sign him loook for the 3-4, Arrington is a player. We even trid to trade for him, When Big Daddy was being shopped.(if memory serves) However if we did sign him and Adams. That would be a killer 3-4.

[turningpoint]

wilkinson?

he was long gone before Arrington was even an all american at Penn state.

[TJJackson]

One more time for the factually-impaired: we are a 4-3 team who occasionally line up in a 3-4 formation as need be.

We are not a 3-4 team

If unclear, go to the top of this post and read it in toto again. Lather, rinse, and repeat as necessary.

[kingwilly]

don't go by stats...Arrington was coming off injury...not a good comparison.

Arrington can be a real All-Pro, monster impact player...and with that comes his attitude and chemistry issues that are big red flags to me. Having worked with ML before is always going to get the rumor mill going. I agree that should the Bengals grab Adams and him, a switch to the 3-4 would yield better results than our 4-3 with guys like Powell, Thornton and Clemons on the field.

I think the $ he will be looking for and the chemistry issue will prevent him from coming to Cincy. If he had been a Buckeye, Mike Brown would be all over him, though.

[ArmyBengal]

Once again, people don't PAY OUT OF THEIR POCKET 4.4 million to leave one team, only to sign with another team only capable of paying them peanuts. Regardless of it being a major upgrade or not, Arrington will not be in stripes this season or any in the foreseeable future...

WHODEY !!!

[TJJackson]

Agreed.

Arrington will not be in Stripes for three different reasons, any one of which would suffice:

financial

recent onfield performance

bad history with marvin

[cincy90]

Here's an idea... lets spend a lot of our already-limited free agent money on a player who's position is one of the strongest on the team already. Let's put all of those fast, young LB's with huge upside on the bench to let a guy (who constantly butted heads with Marvin in wash for free-lancing) blow more plays than he makes. I mean Arrington is such a team player, he would be great for the team's attitude... ahem, ahem. It's not like there's a DT that's a Marvin disciple who wants to come here anyway.

[ckj414]

Arrington won't come to Cincinnati. Word on the street is that he wants to play for any team in the NFC East, except for Washington or Dallas (not sure why he's supposedly ruled out the latter), and Philly doesn't spend big bucks on LBs. That leaves the Giants, who have Arrington's best friend, Antonio Pierce, at middle linebacker.

Speaking as a Giants fan, if he signs with my boys it better be at a 'discount'. I've never thought he was worth the money its believed he'll demand.

[HoosierCat]

Arrington would be a good pickup for the Jints -- hell, at this poiint almost any LB would be a good pickup, all things considered -- but Acorsi said a couple days ago that they weren't looking to spend much this year in FA. Claimed they were tapped out from binging last offseason.

We don't have any place for him, as has already been noted. Would not be surprised if he ended up in Cleveburg, tho...