schweinhart Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 1st Round1. Texans: Reggie Bush RB: Kubiak will find a way to unleash Bush on offense.2. Saints: Vince Young QB: Young brings his brand of excitement to a city in need of something to cheer for.3. Titans: Matt Leinart QB: Chow knows Leinart is poised and accurate enough to be the Titans signal caller for the forseeable future.4. Jets: D'Brickashaw Ferguson LT: D'Brick's decision to participate in the Senior Bowl and then excel there dispels any question that he is a dedicated player with a lot of athletic ability at a premium position.5. Packers: Mario Williams DE: The Pack turn to free agency and later rounds to fill RB needs and get the best impact player on defense instead.6. Raiders: AJ Hawk LB: Al Davis understands he's a lucky man when the best overall defensive player in the draft falls to him.7. 49ers: DeAngelo Williams RB: The 49ers sorely need the threat Williams is every time he gets the ball. 8. Bills: Vernon Davis TE: It takes some time before reason prevails over the collective senility between Grandpa Levy and Dick Jauron, but by the time they pick they realize that Davis is just a flat out freak of nature who immediately improves the ability of the Bills offense to move the ball despite their medicocre QB duo.9. Lions: Jay Cutler QB: Cutler is just what a consummate front office loser like Matt Millen needs to keep his job -- hope.10. Cardinals: Mike Huff DB: The addition of Huff turns the Zona secondary into one of the best in the NFC.11. Rams: Haloti Ngata DT: The Rams need help all over the field and Ngata plugs the biggest hole -- literally.12. Browns: Chad Greenway LB: Romeo flashes back to a time when he had a dominating fleet of LBs and would like to start assembling the same thing in Cleveland.13. Ravens: Winston Justice RT: Ozzie hedges his bet on a future LT replacment for Jonathan Ogden and an immediate one at RT for Zeus.14. Eagles: Santonio Holmes WR: Help is on the way for Donovan McNabb with this route-running machine who can stretch the field.15. Falcons: Jimmy Williams DB: Mora and Company figure out later whether Williams is a CB or a FS.16. Dolphins: Brodrick Bunkley DL: Bunkley offers versatility on a D-Line where Saban knows he needs help.17. Vikings: Laurence Maroney RB: The Vikings peg the explosive Maroney as their starter to complement a decent RB corps in Mewelde Moore and Ciatrick Fason....unless maybe the Whizzinator returns.18. Cowboys: Sinorice Moss WR: Parcells has been around enough to know the kind of ability Moss has to get open immediately helps the Cowboys offense improve its lot. 19. Chargers: Tye Hill CB: The Bolts like Hill for his ability to cover deep in man and swing nickel vs. quick WRs.20. Chiefs: D'Qwell Jackson LB: The Chiefs release Kendrell Bell and immediately upgrade their LB corps with this roving, wrecking machine who wants nothing more than to knock the crud out of people.21. Patriots: Bobby Carpenter LB: Genius Bill knows what he wants in his 3-4 linebackers and Carpenter has more of that any other LB in the draft.22. Broncos: LenDale White RB: The Bronocos need a young power runner to share time with the speed runner Tatum Bell. White is the best available to fit the bill and can be molded to fit what the Broncos want in a one-cut up the field runner.23. Buccaneers: Eric Winston RT: Winston should prove to be a versatile asset to the Bucs O-Line where he should start at RT but be ready to play LT or kick inside to guard if needed.24. Bengals: Antonio Cromartie DB: Cromartie is about in month 7 of his ACL rehab and hopefully no one will completely take stock in how well he has recovered, except for Marvin.25. Giants: Ashton Youboty CB: Coughlin likes what he sees in Youboty and will get what he took when the time comes.26. Bears: Leonard Pope TE: A definite team need gets filled with this giant pass-catcher. His blocking will come along but even without it, Rex Grossman's life just got a whole lot easier.27. Panthers: Nick Mangold C/G: Mangold has earned his way into the 1st round and will start right away at center for the Panthers.28. Jaguars: Marcedes Lewis TE: Another tall target for Leftwich should boost the Jaguars offense enough to get it over the hump where it will pose serious problems for AFC defenses.29. Broncos: KO Simpson FS: Range in coverage separates KO from the safety pack and his job will be made easier patrolling behind the Broncos athletic linebackers.30. Colts: Mathias Kiwanuka DE: The Colts will want to replace free agent Raheem Brock and Kiwi gives them a great option on stunts to confuse the other team's run game and pressure their QBs.31. Seahawks: Demetrius Williams WR: Holmgren knows Demetrius will quickly develop into Hasselbeck's primary target.32. Steelers: Tamba Hali DE: Hali comes in about 15 pounds less than what Cowher wants at DE in the 3-4 but he knows Hali will add muscle and already makes up for what he might lack in weight with unparalleled effort and superb conditioning.2nd Round33. Texans: Jon Scott LT: How worse can he be than what the Texans got?34. Saints: Ernie Sims WSLB: Sims is just too atheltic to pass up and will bolster the Saints defense and special teams whenever he gets his chance to be on the field.35. Jets: Kelly Jennings CB: The Jets hope to get double duty out of Jennings as a man cover corner and nickel back.36. Packers: Joseph Addai RB: Addai is a gifted 3rd down back who will get his shot immediately.37. Raiders: Donte Whitner SS: The Raiders are lucky to get this good of a player in the 2nd round.38. 49ers: Manny Lawson OLB: Lawson's got speed to burn off the edge in a 3-4 and will not only fill out but also figure out how to drop back in coverage when asked.39. Titans: Daniel Bullocks SS: Fisher is a happy man to have replacing Tank Williams come this easy.40. Lions: Darryn Colledge LT: Colledge has shown he's tough and athletic enough to fill either spot on the Lions' left side of their O-Line.41. Cardinals: Davin Joseph G/RT: Joseph's run blocking skills will help him find a place quick on the Cards O-Line.42. Bills: Gabe Watson DT: The Bills briantrust roll the dice with Watson to keep Sam Adams company.43. Browns: Kamerion Wimbley OLB: Romeo likes the speed that will give him that impact OLB that he didn't get in switching Kenard Lang from DE when he installed the 3-4 in Cleveland.44. Ravens: Abdul Hodge LB: Who knows what will happen with Ray-Ray, but Bart Scott and Tommy Polley might be both headed for greener ($$$) pastures. Hodge should contribute right off the bat.45. Eagles: Thomas Howard WSLB: The Eagles decide to have an audition for who will be their weakside LB, and if Thomas Howard can play physical enough, he'll win the job.46. Rams: Taitusi Lutui G/T: The Rams got some age at guard and Lutui solves the problem.47. Falcons: Marcus McNeil T: A first round no-brainer not too long ago, McNeil has looked too slow for teams to peg him as a 1st round LT. With Atlanta, he still might get a shot at either bookend.48. Vikings: Max Jean-Gilles G: A huge player to plug a huge hole for the Vikes.49. Cowboys: Maurice Stovall WR: With speed at WR already drafted, the Cowboys look at the possession side of the equation and like Stovall as an eventual if not immediate replacement for Keyshawn.50. Chargers: Chad Jackson WR: The Bolts need help quick at the wideout position and Jackson is the best available.51. Dolphins: Darnell Bing SS: Saban knows he's getting a deal here with a strong safety as solid as Bing.52. Patriots: Cedric Griffin DB: Griffin has got the physical style the Pats demand, plus the versatility to play either safety position and zone corner whenever needed.53. Redskins: Darryl Tapp DE: Greg Williams had to be already looking at an upgrade at DE before Reynaldo Wynn broke his arm. Tapp is an excellent player.54. Chiefs: Jonathan Joseph CB: With a purge coming at CB, Joseph would get a crack at joining Patrick Surtain in the Chiefs secondary.55. Bengals: Pat Watkins S: Marvin sees the rangy (and somewhat skinny) Watkins is already versatile and phsyical enough to complement Madieu, but he also sees with the right weight room regimen, a force waiting to happen at strong safety.56. Giants: DeMeco Ryans WSLB: Coughlin likes Ryans at the point of attack and banks on improving his pass coverage skills.57. Bears: DeMario Minter CB: The Bears' secondary got burnt when it counted and Lovie takes a step to try to keep that from happening again.58. Panthers: Joe Klopfenstein TE: Panthers badly need an upgrade here with enough vertical threat to make teams pay for shadowing Steve Smith and take some pressure off the running game.59. Bucs: Claude Wroten DT: Just the kind of DT Monty Kiffin wants, as long as Claude can lay off the dope.60. Jags: Dee Webb CB: With guns ablazing, Jack Del Rio takes the chance that at some point in the season he'll have to drop to the ground in the parking lot because his new CB is squeezing off rounds from his AK 47.61. Broncos: Ray Edwards DE: The Broncos look for new blood at DE and Edwards has got enough size to suit Shannahan.62. Colts: Brian Calhoun RB: He's smaller than maybe what Dungy would want to replace Edge, but his quickness is up there with Bush and DeAngelo, plus he can catch.63. Seahawks: Ryan O'Callaghan G/RT: The Seahawks offset age issue and lack of depth on the right side of their O-Line with this road grater who's got suprisingly good feet for a player that huge.64. Steelers: Alan Zemaitis DB: Cowher is always thinking, and he's probably thinking how good Zemaitis will be as a free safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Not bad, but there is something that would just get my goat if we took Cromartie in the first when Tamba Hali is still on the board. Don't get me wrong, Cromartie would help (assuming all is well with the knee), but I would LOVE to see Hali in stripes. God knows the pass rush wouldn't hurt either !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 RoverD will be happy, you went to the FSU well twice. Personally, I don't like taking a guy with injury concerns when guys like Hali, Kiwi, and KO Simpson are still on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 For me, players with injury histories, no matter how good they are, drop to round 3 or later. Too big a risk to spend big signing bonuses on.Mind you, I am well aware that had the Bengals adopted this philosophy many years ago, they might never have drafted Munoz....but then again, back then, salary cap was not an issue.My pick at 24 given the first 23 would be Kiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalChamps Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 My pick at 24 given the first 23 would be Pope. His pass catching ability would keep you from having to draft a WR replacement for Henry. IMO Henry is done as a Bengal. Pope has got to be the BPA at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I have a hard time believing that the Bengals stand to lose regardeless of who they pick at 24. There's going to be lots of decent players available there however they go.But Cromartie is in the freak category. Obviously there was nothing to see with him this year because of his ACL tear before the season started. But I remmeber watching him in awe, especially in how well he gets back in deep coverage and plays the ball. He's got a real shot to shut down every receiver he faces if he's healthy and it sounds like he should be pretty close to completely recovered by now:http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13470005.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Understood, but even if recovered, will he still have all the speed and flexibility he once had?I guess the combine will tell us a bit more about Cromartie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Daryl Tapp's stock is rising fast but I do agree that we will end up w/ either the 24,25, or 26 pick in your draft unless somebody drops that's not supposed to. I would be thrilled if we got our hands on Pat Watkins. If he can put on 10-15 pounds, he can be a force to be wreckened with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I would go with Wroten in the second...Cromartie would be high risk/high reward. One thing I keep thinking of is Ben Wilkerson. He was arguably the best center in the draft last year, yet fell all the way out of it due to his injury. That was a theme in more than one fall last year; it seems teams have become super-leery of taking guys with nasty injuries. In short, I'm thinking Cromartie could fall big-time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I'd say there's a big difference between ACL surgery and rehab than the patellar tendon job Wilkerson had (and the Natester and Correll Buckhalter of the Eagles). The patella tear is a career-ender, but not the ACL --not any more.Probably can say the same thing about the hip socket injury Jason Allen had, although from what I read it didn't sound as severe as the same type of injury that ended Bo Jackson's career.Cromartie is still nonetheless a wildcard. If he shows he's still got close to sprinter's speed and does well on the vertical and decent enough in positional drills, he should rise into 1st or 2nd round consideration. One advantage for the Bengals drafting him would be that they could bring him along with Tory James still manning CB.I'm just not convinced that DE, DT,TE or S will offer the kind of impact the Bengals can get in more explosive players like a Demetrius Williams or Antonio Cromartie. Why?DE: Hali would be a LDE for the Bengals. He gives great effort and doesn't quit but ultimatley I believe he's not quick twitched enough nor strong enough to make much of a dent there. He'd be steady though and a very solid future replacement for Justin.Kiwi looked like he could develop into a Top 10 or maybe even Top 5 pick his junior year. What Happened? He didn't improve his upper body strength at all and what quickness he has rushing seems to me to be reliant on a stunting defense for him to be effective.If it came down to DE in the 1st, I'd rather see Darryl Tapp or Manny Lawson, who will be able to add some bulk like he did from his junior to senior year.DT: I just don't see it. Maybe Bunkley if he should drop. But other than that I'd have to go with Watson just on potential. I seriously doubt Marvin rolls the dice with Wroten because of the dope issue but if he did, you're looking at the replacement for John Thornton and a player still quick enough to cause some mismatches at DE even.TE: Just don't see it really, although they would upgrade the position over what they got. They can get a TE with more blocking upside later in the draft in Tim Day or Charles Davis.S: The Bengals could not go wrong drafting a safety at 24. Whoever they got would likely start. The position itself drops some of the better talent down because safeties aren't usually 1st round picks unless they're freaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 DE: Hali would be a LDE for the Bengals. He gives great effort and doesn't quit but ultimatley I believe he's not quick twitched enough nor strong enough to make much of a dent there. He'd be steady though and a very solid future replacement for Justin.Kiwi looked like he could develop into a Top 10 or maybe even Top 5 pick his junior year. What Happened? He didn't improve his upper body strength at all and what quickness he has rushing seems to me to be reliant on a stunting defense for him to be effective.If it came down to DE in the 1st, I'd rather see Darryl Tapp or Manny Lawson, who will be able to add some bulk like he did from his junior to senior year.I agree on Hali's prospects....gotta hold them to the standrd of "could they get around Big Willie?"...Kiwi is my guy. His size, wingspan, speed are unteachable...the strength issue can be overcome, if it does indeed exist. The combine tests will reshuffle things a bit but if he's there at 24, we HAVE to take him.Tapp would be a good option, but like Hali, could he go toe-to-toe with Willie on a Sunday?Lawson, to me, will be a OLB in a 3-4. He may beef up and put his hand down every now and again but will excel in a 3-4 D. Now, if Kiwi is gone and we somehow take Lawson, we can move Simmmons iniade and give the ol' 3-4 a try...DT: I just don't see it. Maybe Bunkley if he should drop. But other than that I'd have to go with Watson just on potential. I seriously doubt Marvin rolls the dice with Wroten because of the dope issue but if he did, you're looking at the replacement for John Thornton and a player still quick enough to cause some mismatches at DE even. I do not see a DT for us in r1. If they did take one, I think Watson suits our needs best. He sounds like a guy who needs a good dose of NFL coaching to get the most out of him. TE - A top TE (Davis/Pope/Byrd) can make a bigger impact for this team than a Dem. Williams. Pope in the first would put a smile on my face. Why burn a pick on a WR who won't see but 10 snaps a game, when we can have a TE who will see all of them?S- The Bengals could go wrong with an S at 24 if they pick a bad one. I think the difference between the first 3 SS and the next 7 is just not that big to warrant burnign the r1 pick on one. Whether it is Blue, Slay, Harper, Watkins, Page...these guys will be there from r2-r4 in some combination...CB is really the wildcard. Youbouty, Webb, Minter...probably could unseat Ratliff. A guy like Cromartie, if he is not as fast as before, could complement Williams at the other S...maybe another way to look at it...maybe Zemaitis...someone who can play both spots... something to consider.I'd prefer a hitter like Blue or Slay. Someone who will put the wood to a Jamal Lewis. no more wathcing KK be the first to try to hit Lewis 8 yards past the line. Let a guy like Slay or Blue put his hat on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I'm just not convinced that DE, DT,TE or S will offer the kind of impact the Bengals can get in more explosive players like a Demetrius Williams or Antonio Cromartie.I want seven, repeat seven, DTs. 2,100+ lbs. for the d-line. A new 5-2 "Brontosaurus" package. Ya want impact? Feel the ground shake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Kiwi is my guy. His size, wingspan, speed are unteachable...the strength issue can be overcome, if it does indeed exist. The combine tests will reshuffle things a bit but if he's there at 24, we HAVE to take himTapp would be a good option, but like Hali, could he go toe-to-toe with Willie on a Sunday?Lawson, to me, will be a OLB in a 3-4. He may beef up and put his hand down every now and again but will excel in a 3-4 D. Now, if Kiwi is gone and we somehow take Lawson, we can move Simmmons iniade and give the ol' 3-4 a try...Kiwi and Manny Lawson would have the most ceiling of the DE bunch, meaning they both can be brought to expand their strengths, which for Lawson would include like you got a 3-4 OLB feature. Kiwi is already more there at DE than Lawson IMO but has a tremendous upside if he gets stronger with better technique and relies less on stunts to be effective.Hali and Tapp have the highest floor, meaning the Bengals will know exactly what they got from the start: a LDE for the future in Hali and a decent edge rushing specialist in Tapp.TE - A top TE (Davis/Pope/Byrd) can make a bigger impact for this team than a Dem. Williams. Pope in the first would put a smile on my face. Why burn a pick on a WR who won't see but 10 snaps a game, when we can have a TE who will see all of them?TE could make a big difference in a year w/o a legit 3rd WR who can stretch the field and free up Housh over the middle. The playbook would have to change somewhat to bring a TE into a more prominent role offensively. Besides, 2 TEs should be gone from last year so there is also the numbers need for at least 1 from this draft. However, if the Bengals got a WR rated high....and they might have more than 1 after the combine, then they could still pull the trigger at #24. Right now, there seems to be only 1 WR who they would would consider a bargain -- Santonio Holmes. Sinorice Moss and Demetrius Williams might be in the wings, but they would have to blow their minds enough to maybe trade down with Jags if the Jags want a shot at either Pope or Lewis at TE and are willing to part with a 3rd round pick.S- The Bengals could go wrong with an S at 24 if they pick a bad one. I think the difference between the first 3 SS and the next 7 is just not that big to warrant burnign the r1 pick on one. Whether it is Blue, Slay, Harper, Watkins, Page...these guys will be there from r2-r4 in some combination...I agree with this. Again, ceiling wise, the player there looks to me like Watkins because of his frame. Floor wise, I'd say Slay because he ought to be there in the 3rd round and they will know what they're getting: a hard hitting SS who has decent coverage skills given his speed limitations. CB is really the wildcard. Youbouty, Webb, Minter...probably could unseat Ratliff. A guy like Cromartie, if he is not as fast as before, could complement Williams at the other S...maybe another way to look at it...maybe Zemaitis...someone who can play both spots... something to consider.They got to take a Day 1 CB. What kind seems to me to be the larger issue: press specialist, quarters corner, nickel...or a combination that could also include some safety ability. I like Minter but he won't offer anything as a nickel and would be very limited in a FS role. And to go back to the ceiling/floor thing, I don't see a player in this draft with more ceiling than Antonio Cromartie.Here's Scott Wright's recent interview with him.http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/interview...ocromartie.htmlI'm just not convinced that DE, DT,TE or S will offer the kind of impact the Bengals can get in more explosive players like a Demetrius Williams or Antonio Cromartie.I want seven, repeat seven, DTs. 2,100+ lbs. for the d-line. A new 5-2 "Brontosaurus" package. Ya want impact? Feel the ground shake! Hey, anything to consistently stop the run and pressure the QB. Of course if they go to this draft for it, the Bengals might wind up with 5 Mathias Askews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I'm just not convinced that DE, DT,TE or S will offer the kind of impact the Bengals can get in more explosive players like a Demetrius Williams or Antonio Cromartie.I want seven, repeat seven, DTs. 2,100+ lbs. for the d-line. A new 5-2 "Brontosaurus" package. Ya want impact? Feel the ground shake! Hey, anything to consistently stop the run and pressure the QB. Of course if they go to this draft for it, the Bengals might wind up with 5 Mathias Askews The draft is, as they say, a crap shoot...and heaven knows the Bengals have crapped out enough times in recent history. But while I really don't expect them to take 7 DTs...I'm likely to be steamed if they pass up DT in rounds 1 and 2, and will definitely be unhappy if they don't address it at all on day one.It's a cliche: football games are won and lost in the trenches. And the Bengals have ignored the defensive side of that trench for the last 10 drafts. In all that time the team has taken 4, count 'em, 4 DTs...wiith a 4th, a 5th, and 2 6th round picks. If they had decided that this was a position where they were going to pay for stud FAs, OK, you can do that, but they haven't. Instead it's been business as usual: the occasional second-tier signing mixed in with a bunch of castoffs and waiver wire types. And IMHO that's a big reason why the defense has had an average ranking of about 24th over than time period.I think we have to take a DT this year no later than the second. We simply have to pump some talent into the trenches. If we continue to ignore it, history says we are going to have another 20-something-ranked defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 RoverD will be happy, you went to the FSU well twice. Personally, I don't like taking a guy with injury concerns when guys like Hali, Kiwi, and KO Simpson are still on the board You bet I'd be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 24. Bengals: Antonio Cromartie DB: Cromartie is about in month 7 of his ACL rehab and hopefully no one will completely take stock in how well he has recovered, except for Marvin. My 1st round flag is currently flyying high over Camp CB so I've got very few problems with this one. Plus, the Bengals have recently stated that Tory James remains firmly in their plans as a starter, a decision I have very little love for, but one that would allow Cromartie to be eased into the rotation. So if they're satisfied that his medical condition is sound it would be hard to question this pick. That said, I'd probably shed a few tears for Tamba. Can't comment much on the 2nd round pick, as the first time I'd laid eyes on Pat Watkins was at the Senior Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I think we have to take a DT this year no later than the second. We simply have to pump some talent into the trenches. If we continue to ignore it, history says we are going to have another 20-something-ranked defense.The only prob I got with this is the class -- it's weak IMO. There's been a lot of talk about how weak the WR class is (and it is) but DT looks to me to be nearly as weak, largely because of the inconsistencies of the most talked about ones like Gabe, Rod Wright, and Orien Harris. I think players like John McCargo, Babatunde Oshinowo, and LeKevin Smith are better bets and all seem like they should go later than the 2nd round.24. Bengals: Antonio Cromartie DB: Cromartie is about in month 7 of his ACL rehab and hopefully no one will completely take stock in how well he has recovered, except for Marvin. My 1st round flag is currently flyying high over Camp CB so I've got very few problems with this one. Plus, the Bengals have recently stated that Tory James remains firmly in their plans as a starter, a decision I have very little love for, but one that would allow Cromartie to be eased into the rotation. So if they're satisfied that his medical condition is sound it would be hard to question this pick. That said, I'd probably shed a few tears for Tamba. Can't comment much on the 2nd round pick, as the first time I'd laid eyes on Pat Watkins was at the Senior Bowl.Cromartie seems to got a lot at stake at the combine. We'll see how he fares.2nd round might be a round too early for Watkins but I'm thinking not mainly because of how physical he showed he can play in the Fla St. bowl game. That tape should get him good looks as a solid safety at both positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 The only prob I got with this is the class -- it's weak IMO. There's been a lot of talk about how weak the WR class is (and it is) but DT looks to me to be nearly as weak, largely because of the inconsistencies of the most talked about ones like Gabe, Rod Wright, and Orien Harris. I think players like John McCargo, Babatunde Oshinowo, and LeKevin Smith are better bets and all seem like they should go later than the 2nd round.Perhaps...but if this year's DT class is weak at the top, it seems to me that's not because of a lack of talent or stature or physical tools. Guys like Wright and Watson are prototypical stud DT-types. And they have shown the ability to play some dominant ball. The concerns seem to me to be primarily mental (i.e. coaching) ones. Getting these guys to play hard every down, quit puffiin' the magic dragon, etc. A risk? Yeah, but again, I don't think it's any more of a risk than any other draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 The only prob I got with this is the class -- it's weak IMO. There's been a lot of talk about how weak the WR class is (and it is) but DT looks to me to be nearly as weak, largely because of the inconsistencies of the most talked about ones like Gabe, Rod Wright, and Orien Harris. I think players like John McCargo, Babatunde Oshinowo, and LeKevin Smith are better bets and all seem like they should go later than the 2nd round. Perhaps it's just me, but I was pretty jacked after reading the Bengals had interviewed Jonathan Lewis at the combines. I've mentioned him a few times, and it's fair to say that I like him as well, or better, than most of the higher ranked DT prospects. Best of all, his 2nd or 3rd round grade fits perfectly with my own "Draft a CB in the 1st" draft strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 You could add Jonathan Lewis to he list, although I'm not as sold on him as some of the lesser ranked DT prospects mentioned above. Lewis does have a deceptive short area quickness that he uses to shed blocks and get penetration at times, but on the whole he reminded me a lot of Langston Moore. I'd still rather see the Bengals wait into Day 2 before pulling the trigger on a DT, but if a proven one is not signed in free agency, they may very well have to roll the dice on one on Day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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