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I love and hate the fact he'll wear 71. Big shoes to fill and I hope he does at least to the Andre Smith level but don't stop there and get to the Big Willie level.

Judging from their comments post pick. They considered a trade up to get Newton but the price was too heavy. Then sat on pins and needles hoping Jenkins didn't get picked. It sounds like Newton and Jenkins were their prime targets.

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I'm going to put this one as B+. They needed youth along the D-line.

A+ glad they got him.

some Georgia bulldog fans seem to be in agreement Mims kinda took himself out of the SEC Championship game instead of it truly being injured. they are saying Kirby post game said he was cleared to play but he didn't feel like he could continue. some think he was dodging the issue.

Bottomline is this. Bengals since Alexander have been dreadful in developing their drafted linemen. The retention of Ford and drafting of Mims probably leads to the departure of 2 drafted OL. Smith and Carman. So what? Jonah Williams - 5 star, 1 rated tackle out of highschool. Micheal Jordan 4 star top 10 offensive tackle out of highschool. Billy Price - started a freshman (red shirt) on a national champ team. Jackson Carman 5 stars, rated no. 2 tackle in his class over Sewell. The overall point is these guys are going to hit top shelf in every t-shirt and underwear measurement. Since Alexander the Bengals can't get any of them to start aside from Jonah Williams. Mims another 5 star, 2nd rated highschool tackle. I hate to sit here 2 years from now calling him a "bitch" because some dumbass coach can't figure out a way to get bona fide studs to be productive. That is just a line of failure. How many former 5 star players does Pollack need to draft in order to keep from giving up 35 sacks on a season?

I'm assuming Newton will be gone or I would love him.

I would like Fisk or Jenkins. The talent on the board left on the board is a direct result of 2nd/3rd qbs being taken in round 1.

I give the pick a C. Taking the 5th tackle over the 1st CB or pass rusher, DT. The reality is he hasn't played as a 5 star lineman. He was ranked right behind JC Latham out of highschool. You can't fault them for taking RT given the fact it has been a rotating FA visit and this year had Becton at Ruby's. With all tackles except OBJ being FAs next offseason you know they were taking a OT at some point. However, where did they really have him ranked? We'll never know but it seems like they got backed into a corner. You make a mistake with a OT pick, like Carman, there's very little you can do with them. 5th tackle over 1st CB 3rd DE, 2nd pass rushing DT? questionable. Even if those CBs, DTs, DEs never become good enough to start at any point in their career. There is always reps to be had. Hopefully he's a freak and puts all the concerns to rest. Just got to wonder why this kid was kept on the bench outside of injury. JC Latham had 27 starts, I think and there's always stud lineman there too.

I understand the pick because every tackle after this year except OBJ is a FA. Jonah Williams and Jason Taylor's of the world are grabbing multiple year deals $15m+. But this guy was a hard pass for me at 18 and then of course the Steelers take the guy rated higher than him. Hope it works but it screams tackle bust. But they'll need tackles and unless you want to spend $15-$20m of cap room on average starter this is the only route.

Its interesting the JC Latham has now jumped up to 1st OT taken in two "last" mocks.

Shortsighted and the county playing hard or "fake" hardball is only going to back them into a corner. There are not leaders on that county board. The Bengals put pressure on the county starting in 1988 for ultimately became Paul Brown. They laughed nobody would watch the Jacksonville Bengals. They pushed it off and pushed it off. 1993 they had a deal then Marge Schott shot it down because she didn't see the value in Baseball having club seats or something stupid. They never believed Baltimore would want the shitty Bengals. Then bam the Browns moved to Baltimore. Fast forward. How did that riverfront come about? Working men and women? Slave labor? Did they steal the materials or machinery? No. That was funded via debt. That debt remains whether the Bengals play in Hamilton County or not. The already approved sales tax and that remains whether the Bengals play there or not. The county has no choice but to get a deal done. Its a financial disaster if they don't. No retail tenant can survive the rent without those dates because the rent is high to cover the debt. Any replacement tenant for Paycor is going to require renovations because that's what it needs. Just get it done because anyone with common sense knows it has to get done and save the bullshit political grandstanding for more important things like racism.

I can only see the Bengals trading down. The number of QB and supposed OTs are going to push the quality of the draft further down and Bengal scouts are on record thinking the depth of this draft is better than recent years.

They are going to have to come up with some money, period. He has a ton of leverage. That's why they did the small extension last year to avoid problems. If they aren't willing to do that then, get a return and try to fill the void. They'd look like idiots all season with him holding out when they are supposedly trying to win a Superbowl with no pass rush. This is your typical playbook that is as old as the NFL itself or least limited to my memory.

No he's not. The Bengals are supposedly trying to win a Superbowl they are under the obligation to make sure their players are on the field to do that. What the anti-Mike Brown all of sudden loves his money? Pay the guy or trade him. This is the business of the NFL and this will be a reoccurring theme as long as the Bengals have superstars. They all aren't going to be crying like bitches just to get paid market value. Chris Jones wasn't a bitch holding out last year. This is stuff they have to do in order to get the money that's grown since their last contract. If you have 17.5 sacks in a year then "YES" you have the leverage.

Trey had 17.5 sacks last year. He's set to make half per year of what the top defensive players are making. He should be paid more. He's going to make $29m in 2 years when lesser players will make that in 1. This is just NFL business. Any smart agent and player should try to capitalize on the cap growth IF they can. Trey can and the Bengals should make it work. If the Bengals don't want to make it work then they should be willing to trade him for top value.

Just NFL business. It costs to have Super stars and that is what Trey is. At 17 sacks a year or even the amount he's averaged as a bengal he's underpaid. The Bengals should open the door and give him up front cash and maybe a couple extra years. I would not be against a trade either but like Higgins it better be at least top 15 value or forget it.

I don't think that means cash flow. The article states the stadium needs $493 maintenance and upgrades over the next 20 years. So I think the Bengals want the capital plan for $300m of that spending with a contractual commitment they'll kick in $50m and 5 years.

True, medicals could always scare teams off. Between Latu and Verse I think there will be more than 1 Edge defender taken in the top 17 picks. Most mocks have only 1. If that happens its going to push down a player that Bengal fans have not thought possible, maybe.

Latu and Verse getting talked up a lot. Most mocks have them going after the 18th pick. This will be 1 thing to watch. Bengals are going to be starring at a impact DL or OT is my guess. Conventional mocking has them selecting the 4th OT sometime the 5th. What if they got a chance at the 3rd OT?

They should put the Sam Wyche 80s Bengals sweater as their logo and mid field. Hell maybe use it as the 3rd helmet.

Just use the old Cincinnati Stingers logo, lol. Except orange and black. Then you have the "C" with a "Bee".

I do like the draft shirt. I think its a standard theme across the NFL so I'm not hopeful that it replaces the "B". They are allowed to do a 3rd helmet. I think they should use the opportunity to do a completely new helmet concept away from the stripes. Please no "70s" block bengals either. Those are ugly and boring. I would love a script "Bengals" along the side or something like that.

Eli Apple played a ton of quality snaps on a flyer type contract. I could live with CB. Always need guys that can run and cover.