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Yeah, I didn't specify Hamilton County, but the greater Cincinnati area. That said, given that HamCo alone accounts for more than a third of the MSA's population, I would not be surprised if the majority of regular PBS-goers are HamCo residents. As for the "material just lying around," well, things like steel and concrete are commodities. I can assure you U.S. Steel isn't waiting around for Mike Brown to call in an order before they fire up the blast furnace. I'm sure there were items that were custom orders (I doubt that you can just buy one of those big-assed stadium video screen at Wal Mart) so someone(s) got paid to do that. Probably not local tho. Workers just sitting around? Well, that's kind of my point: outside of a major economic downturn there are usually construction projects going on, so it's unlikely that any given worker's ability to draw a wage and pay taxes will be impacted by a stadium project. Might they make more or less on project X versus project Stadium? Sure, but now again we are getting into a discussion of goals/needs/level of support etc. Is "increasing the average hourly wage for construction workers" a goal for the public entity financing a project? If so then providing public funding with the "string" of a prevailing wage requirement attached might be worthwhile.

The materials produced would have still been produced; whether or not PBS was built had no impact on the production of steel, concrete, plastic resin, etc. It just would have been used on something else. Same for the construction workers. They just would have been working on some other jobsite. As for the economic activity on the riverfront, sure, lots of people go there and spend lots of money. But the vast majority of those people live in the greater Cincinnati market. If they didn't spend the money on the riverfront, they'd just spend it somewhere else in the market. At best it's a wealth transfer within the area.

It's not a point of view or political issue, it's just math. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/sports-jobs-taxes-are-new-stadiums-worth-the-cost/ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/pam.22534 https://econofact.org/stadiums-as-public-investments https://journalistsresource.org/economics/sports-stadium-public-financing/ The bottom line is that the economic benefits of an NFL stadium to anyone other than the owner and players is highly overblown. Now, can you make an argument that, fine, stadiums are a public money pit, but cities are still smart to spend on them anyhow? Sure. Government routinely spends on things that don't make money; that's one of the whole points of government. Should stadiums be one of them? Maybe. Depends on what the municipality's goals are, what other needs there are the money might be spent on, what level of support is being discussed, etc.

Bell gets the boot. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41390092/cincinnati-reds-fire-manager-david-bell

Lifetime 4-0 against the Raiders. Every team has their kryptonite. For us it’s week 1, for the Raiders, it’s Andy Dalton.

lol that’s about it tho my favorite is “I do not consent to this arrest!”

Cowboys as usual suck.

Fell down a YouTube rabbit hole watching dumb sovcits, came up for air long enough to lol at the Browns.

The main argument is usually couched in terms of economic development. The idea being that the stadium will serve as an anchor for new businesses and new jobs (restaurants, retail, etc) that will boost local tax revenues and thus justify public investment. The problem is that most studies done on the actual economic impact of these nfl sports palaces say this doesn’t actually happen. Bottom line, there are a lot more effective ways for the city and county to spend the kind of money being batted around here.

Higgins, Jenkins, Mims set to practice this week, we’ll see to what extent. Rankins and Hill are day-to-day, not going today. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/9/19/24249121/tee-higgins-injury-kris-jenkins-bj-hill-sheldon-rankins-bengals-commanders

Interesting salary cap related article from espn on teams insuring contracts for their highest-paid players. It's still not a routine thing. For example, the Jets didn't have a policy on Rogers last year, so...oops. And the slightly surprising kicker... Well, good job, Katie! And note, these policies ain't cheap. So, did it pay off for the Bengals after Joe got hurt last year? The answer is: yes. So hey, props to the FO. They are definitely losing money on the insurance, but every bit of cap relief helps.

Big Willie on deck again. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41315397/eli-manning-leads-16-1st-pro-football-hall-fame-nominees

Well, no worries guys, as the reaction all around seems to be “thanks, I hate it.”

KJ Henry waived to make room for guy. WR Shedrick Jackson also waived off the PS.

HamCo commissioners unveil $1.2 billion stadium renovation plan, includes permanent practice facility, giant video screens, more club seats and luxury boxes. Not included: plan to pay for it.

Hard to get excited when so far the season is just another rerun. It’s like turning on the first episode of the next season of your favorite show…and it’s an hour-long recap of the last season. The Bengals never miss a chance to disappoint the fanbase and it’s beyond old at this point.

They’re signing Guy. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/9/17/24247413/lawrence-guy-bengals-news

Hey, you know that guy who didn’t play week 1 because the coaches hated him? Eff you Zac. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/9/17/24247048/jermaine-burton-earns-highest-grade-on-bengals-offense-from-pff

Zac said he was talking to the FO about bringing in dline help. There’s DT Dominique Davis on the PS, and a couple guys they let go at final cuts, Travis Bell and Carlos Davis. They’d all at least have the benefit of some familiarity with the team and system. I was poking around into available FA DTs yesterday but didn’t find anyone worth mentioning. Here’s the “best” Rapien could find. Cupboard is bare. https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/three-veteran-defensive-tackles-cincinnati-bengals-could-sign-free-agency-01j7zzeywqht ETA apparently they are working out Lawrence Guy and Albert Huggins among others today. https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/report-bengals-working-out-multiple-veteran-defensive-tackles-amidst-injury-run-01j8065frxpq

Play with fire and eventually you get burned. Hopefully not this year, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all. Washington can run and our dline is a train wreck. Even so, Bengals can probably outscore them if the week 2 offense shows up. I just hope the don’t overlook the Commanders now that the Panthers have named first ballot hall of famer Andy Dalton their new starter.

Well, here we are again. Must win in week 3 to save the season, and on Monday night no less.

Pacheco fractured his fibula, looks likely to miss at least four weeks. https://sports.yahoo.com/chiefs-rb-isiah-pacheco-reportedly-fractures-fibula-vs-bengals-likely-headed-for-injured-reserve-135703822.html

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