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Wraith

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  1. Here is my stab at the final 53 with PS and IR.

    Offense:

    QB: Dalton, Campbell

    HB: Bernard, Hill, Peerman, BJGE (until Rex is off IR)

    FB: Hewitt

    WR: Green, Jones, Sanu, Sanzenbacher, White, Tate

    TE: Eifert, Gresham, Smith

    OT: Whitworth, Andre Smith, Newhouse, Hawkinson

    OG: Zeitler, Boling, Pollack, Hopkins

    OC: Bodine

    Defense:

    DE: Dunlap, Gilberry, Hunt, Clarke, Geathers

    DT: Atkins, Peko, Thompson, Bilukidi

    LB: Burfict, Maualuga, Lamur, Rey, DiManche, Flowers

    S: Nelson, Iloka, Manning, Williams, Mays

    CB: Hall, Newman, Dennard, Kirkpatrick, Jones

    Special Teams:

    Nugent

    Huber

    Harris

    PS:

    Scott

    Ross

    McCaleb

    Still

    Hamilton

    Robinson

    Moch

    Isiah Lewis

    Stanford

    Schaffer

    IR:

    McCarron

    Berkhead

  2. I have been thinking that Matt Ryan is a pretty good comparison for Andy Dalton as well. On a whim I went to the NFL.Com Stat Lab and compared last years stats to the three guys who signed big contracts in 2013 (Ryan, Stafford, and Flacco).

    I compared the four most important statistics for a QB (aside from wins and losses) IMHO for all four (TD/INT Ratio, Yards per Attempt, QB Rating, Completion %). Dalton compares very favorably in all 4 categories.

    Ryan: 1.53 TD/INT Ratio, 6.94 Yards per Attempt, 89.6 QB Rating, 67.4% Completion %

    Dalton: 1.65 TD/INT Ratio, 7.33 Yards per Attempt, 88.8 QB Rating, 61.9% Completion %

    Flacco: .86 TD/INT Ratio, 6.37 Yards per Attempt, 73.1 QB Rating, 59.0% Completion %

    Stafford: 1.53 TD/INT Ratio, 7.33 Yards per Attempt, 84.2 QB Rating, 58.5% Completion %

    Another thing to consider of the above QBs is that Dalton is the youngest in league tenure (He is a few months older than Stafford in chronological age).

    Dalton is a top ten QB based off Win % and almost every other meaningful statistical category and is getting better every year and deserves to be paid like one (I would rate P. Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Luck, Roethlisberger, Wilson, and Rivers ahead of him with only Luck and Wilson younger).

    But he can't win the big games! is the refrain....ok let's look at the 5 games played against playoff teams in 2013 (including the awful playoff game).

    Dalton's Stat line vs. playoff teams in 2013: 4 wins, 1 loss. 66.38% Completion %, 249 yards, 7 TDs, 5 Ints, and a 91.54 QB Rating....I think we will take that versus the top competition.

  3. Hawkins is impressing the coaching staff up North:

    1. Andrew Hawkins continues to draw raves from the coaches, and for good reason. As Mike Pettine said: "He's been an ultimate professional ... You would think he was a 10-year veteran with the way he carries himself. When we talk to the young wide receivers, he's the guy — if you want to pattern yourself after a guy, that's the guy. He comes out and works hard every day, on the field, off the field. It's been a very pleasant surprise. To me, when you have a guy that has that type of separation ability, that type of quickness that can turn a short game into a long one, it can only be a plus for you."


    />http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2014/07/cleveland_browns_scribbles_and.html

    Something about that blurb caught me up short and it took me a minute to figure out what it was. How many long, miserable years did the following scenario play out: a quality Bengal player leaves in free agency. Think Justin Smith or TJ or TKO or Dillion, et. al. And their very first interview in their new town is all about how professional the new team is, expectations are totally different, free soda in he locker room, whatever. But the underlying theme was always the same: they were the NFL equivalent of refugees who would now finally be playing for a real live NFL franchise.

    Fast forward to today. A key Bengal player left in free agency. And the first take from the media is how professional the player is, how he's a leader the other members of his unit are patterning themselves after, that he works hard and sets an example.

    Marvin Lewis has his flaws as a head coach. But he did this, too. That counts for a lot in my book.

    Marvin recreated his approach and the football team after the debacle of 2010 and this is the result. This Bengals team is filled with high character guys and leaders and I think that is the greatest reason why we have finally begun to have sustained success. The current incarnation of the Cincinnati Bengals is my favorite and I go back to the late 70's.

  4. I just don't get it, we deal with this every year....the Bengals are going to step back because: (2011) they have a rookie QB and not enough talent, (2012) because they barely squeaked into the playoffs in 2011 and haven't made back to back playoffs (non-strike) since the inception of the franchise, (2013) they can't beat Pittsburgh and Baltimore, (2014) because we are trying to think of some sort of reasons and we are starting to throw out crap that just doesn't make sense.

    Secondary a ?, well Sherlock (directed at the talking heads not anyone on this board), they won the damn division without Leon Hall last year are you honestly saying the secondary is going to be worse than last year? There is not one shred of evidence to support that in fact most of the evidence supports that they have a stronger secondary than last year which was the best pass defense in the AFC. Worse case scenario is that they remain about where they were last year and that will be just fine with me.

    Geno Atkins is coming back from an injury....which is somehow worse than him missing 2/3rds of the season entirely? Give me a break.

    Lost both coordinators...ok Zimmer I will give you, but Paulie G was Zimmers' right hand man the last few seasons and the players are static so shouldn't be any drop off there unless you are saying Paul Guenther is completely incompetent (because all anyone should have to do with this group is not screw them up). As for Hue....Hue is > than Jay, Hue is the #1 reason why I am optimistic about the offense because Jay couldn't adjust his program to the players around him....Hue can and Hue knows enough to put Dalton into a place where he can succeed rather than forcing him to throw 40 times a game.

    Pittsburgh and Baltimore are better....based off of what exactly? Pittsburgh if anything has a LESS talented group than last year and Baltimore is going to get better by adding Steve Smith??? really?. If there is one team that will make strides in the division IMHO it is Cleveland but I still think we have the superior roster.

    Losing in the first round has....I'll take "made them angry and more focused" for $200 Alex. There is no chance that this group is going to be less focused than last year, none.

    12-4 and the genius' that are predicting a down Bengals' season can go suck eggs for the fourth season in a row.

  5. I was thinking about the Dalton situation the other day (now that this thread has devolved into a discussion of his capabilities). I would be considered on this board a pretty large Dalton backer. I think we have seen growth in his game every year. I think the offensive scheme hasn't worked in his favor. As for the playoff wins, I consider them a whole team failure rather than just a personal one. In the first Houston game we just got manhandled on offense and defense. In the second Houston game didn't we have like 10 drops in that game (5 from Gresham alone?) including two dropped TDs? The SD game was another team failure our offensive lions got thwacked (technical term). All this being said, even though I am a pretty big Dalton guy, if the guy were demanding a Flacco-cap-destroying contract, I would let him walk and take my chances with developing McCarron. Play out the string this year and take that money and make sure Burfict and Green are wrapped up long term.

  6. My prediction is 12-4 and before I get blown up for being a gigantic homer I would like the naysayers to explain how this 11-5 team has gotten worse. Yes they lost MJ but they planned for that and the maturation of Hunt along with the return of Heathers should compensate. Yes they lost A.C. but they signed Newhouse and let's be real about this, the guy was a career backup (a good backup but a backup none the less). They added Manning and Denmark and Kirkpatrick made big strides at the end of last year. All of this balanced against young players getting better (Hunt, Green, Marvin Jones, Sanu, Burfict, and yes...even Dalton) I just see a team still improving and I see this year as the year we kick the damn door in.

  7. I think the reason they traded up was that Bodine was the last draftable center they had one their board. I think they gambled that Stork would fall to them in the fourth and when he didn't they had a collective "oh crap" moment and made sure they got the next guy....just my opinion but I would expect it went down something like that.

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