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It's the first round bit that gets me. I don't have a problem with taking a flier on a Chris Henry in the third or a Dennis Weathersby in the fourth because well, if they fail they don't ruin your entire draft and send the team in a downward spiral. First round on the other hand?
I'd feel more comfortable with a Danieal Manning in the third, a Pat Watkins in the fourth or even a Richard Marshall in the second, guys with equivalent physical ability but have more proven track records. My list of Corners in the draft I'd be willing to take at #24 begins and ends with Tye Hill (given that Huff will be long gone), sorry Youbody fans.
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Bah! he has the Bengals taking DeMarco Ryans he must have just been drunk when he was doing his draft and forgot Bunkley. Let me tell you, if the Bengals take Ryans and pass on Bunkley we need to take the whole organization and flush it down the Ohio River, because they have lost the ability to evaluate talent.
That being said Bunk will go top 15 and Ryans (being the slowest OLB in the draft with a first day grade) won't sniff the Bengals draft board.
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Cromartie has essentially not played football in two years, that scares me as a first round selection, there is no doubt about his ability and that he would have been a top 15 pick if he had had a strong junior campaign. I just like my first round picks to be less risky, then again I've never been much of a gambler.
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Here's the NFL.Com Brandt article.
1. Mario Williams, N.C. State (6-7, 295, 4.70)
Williams had a complete workout at the Combine. He ran his two 40s in 4.66 and 4.72. He also recorded a 40½-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot long jump, a 4.36 short shuttle, a 7.19 three-cone drill and 35 bench presses. He played running back and defensive end in high school. He averaged 10 yards per carry as a running back, notched 13 sacks and blocked five kicks. He graduated high school in three-and-a-half years and entered N.C. State in December 2002. He started 13 games in 2003, 11 in 2004 and 12 in 2005. He had 25½ career sacks. A player much like the Panthers' Julius Peppers, Williams has great upside and is an outstanding athlete. He's very strong (35 lifts), and can be a player like the Patriots' Richard Seymour and play both end and tackle at a high level. Because of his size, things come very easy for him and he sometimes takes a play or two off. He needs to play with more urgency every play. He should be an All-Pro, Pro Bowl-type player.
2. Manny Lawson, N.C. State (6-5 3/8, 241, 4.45)
Lawson had a complete workout at the Combine. He ran his two 40s in 4.43 and 4.46 and recorded a 39½-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-4 long jump, a 4.18 short shuttle, a 6.90 three-cone drill and 23 bench presses. He played defensive end and running back in high school, and qualified for the State track meet in four different events. He played as a true freshman in 2002 and led the nation with three blocked punts. He also competed on the track team in the spring. He started three games in 2003 and won the ACC long jump in track competition with a 24-foot-3½ jump. Last season, he started 11 games at defensive end and had 10½ sacks. Lawson has great athletic ability with above-average toughness. He has very good pass-rush ability and very good quickness. He lacks bulk, but he should be able to put some on. He will be 22 years old in July. I think his best position is defensive end, but he most likely can play outside linebacker and can also be a very good special teams player.
Kamerion Wimbley's versatility makes him a perfect fit in a 3-4 defensive scheme.
3. Kamerion Wimbley, Florida State (6-3 7/8, 248, 4.63)
He had a complete workout at the Combine. He ran his two 40s in 4.61 and 4.65 seconds. He also recorded a 38½-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-9 long jump, a 4.48 short shuttle, a 6.97 three-cone drill and 24 bench presses. Wimbley played defensive end, linebacker, quarterback and wide receiver in high school and was also his team's punter. He finished school in three-and-a-half years and enrolled early at Florida State. He played as a true freshman in 2002. He played and didn't start in 2003, started two games in 2004 and started 13 games in 2005. In 2004, he had 7½ sacks and four batted balls, and he played the last four games with an injury. He weighed 210 pounds when he first came to Florida State. He's an outstanding athlete, much like DeMarcus Ware was last year (drafted with the 11th overall choice by Dallas). This player can play defensive end or linebacker in a 3-4 defense. He has the frame to weigh 270. He has great character, great work habits and the burst to get to the quarterback. He is a Pro Bowl-type player.
4. Tamba Hali, Penn State (6-3, 275, 4.88)
Hali did not work out at the Combine, but did do everything at Penn State's Pro Day March 16. His Pro Day weight was 263, down 12 pounds from the Combine. He ran his 40s in 4.86 and 4.88 and recorded a 29½-inch vertical jump, an 8-foot-10 long jump, a 4.31 short shuttle, a 7.28 three-cone drill and 18 bench presses. He played as a true freshman in 2002, playing 156 snaps. He started 11 games at defensive tackle in 2003, and started 23 games at defensive end in 2004 and 2005. He notched 11 sacks in 2005. He's a good, not great, athlete who plays hard on every down. He has long arms (33 5/8) and good quickness. He plays faster than his timed speed. He had just three sacks going into the 2005 season, and he has had a hard time going against big tackles. He needs to get stronger, and I see him being a good, rather than a great, player.
Gocong was no. 5 notice Kiwanuka on there anywhere? He was 6th...i.e. second rounder. I just think you guys argueing against Lawson are missing the boat, I think Kiwi can be a good football player, I think Lawson can/will be great. What is not in this write up is that he graduated from North Carolina State with a civil engineering degree from a notoriously hard program and wants to be an architect after his playing days are over, he was a team captain.
Just for information for those who don't know, Gil Brandt started the scouting combine while being the head scout for Dallas, drafted the triplets as well as Eric Williams and Larry Allen (both late draft steals) and basicly started the whole "player analysis" movement getting the first computer doing draft tabulations. Is the guy always right, no, but he is worth ten Mel Kipers in my book.
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"Don't take it as an insult when I post this stuff,as quite frankly I would be thrilled with any of these guys."
I don't take it as an insult, I just want to be emphatic. I had this exact conversation with Rob Rang, draft analyst with NFL Draft Scout, I challenged him on the difference between Manny and Kamerion when he had Kamerion as a top 15 pick at DE and Manny as a second round OLB. He spewed the same thing (frame) but when I challeged him on it he backed off his position and now has Lawson and Wimbley ranked neck and neck (though still with Lawson at OLB and Wimbley at DE which I still maintain makes no sense).
I can understand ranking a guy down if his athletism does not translate to the football field, but in Manny's case it definately does translate hence his 19.5 Tackles for Loss and 10.5 sacks last year in (argueably) the premiere college conference. I don't buy the frame stuff, Lawson has a huge frame and my guess is one year in a pro weight program will pack 15 lbs on him without losing quickness. The difference between Lawson and Pollack is, Pollack is 6' 2.5" and thus does not have to room to add more weight Lawson is damn near 6' 6". I think it is a NO-BRAINER that Marvin takes this guy if he lasts til 24, and yeah you play him at DE. Speed, Quickness, Intelligence, Leadership all Marvin attributes. I was this hyped about Luis Castillo last year and really the only three defensive players I would draft ahead of Lawson for the Bengals at this point are Mario Williams, Broderick Bunkley, and Michael Huff I wouldn't even neccessarily take Hawk ahead of Lawson, not that I think Lawson is a better football player than Hawk but that I think Lawson fits the Bengals better than Hawk. I honestly see Lawson having the same impact Freeney had, and yes, I could be WAY off track but I really think the guy is special.
Gil Brandt has Lawson ranked only behind Super Mario at DE and I tend to agree with his assessments more often than not.
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At the combine Lawson weighed in at 241, Wimbley 245.
Lawson ran 4.45
Wimbley ran 4.61
These are facts there is no dispute. the 4.70 time was a guess, Lawson and Wimbley BOTH tested better than that but Lawson is noticably faster and yeah .16 is noticeably faster. The difference between a WR at 4.39 and 4.55 which would you want?
Lawson outperformed Wimbley (and don't give the the Williams freak bull sh!t Wimbley had as much or more talent around him) the last TWO years on the football field, in the same conference.
Oh! and Wimbley is an inch SHORTER where does this "frame" bull come from Lawson has more frame to work with its just those North Carolina State Uni's that make him look slim, they make 295 lb. Mario Williams look slim.
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1: Manny Lawson, DE, North Carolina State
2: John McCargo, DT, North Carolina State
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Bengals Only:
1:24: Manny Lawson, DE, North Carolina State
2:55: John McCargo, DT, North Carolina State
3:91: David Thomas, TE, Texas
4:123: Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse
5:157: Terna Nande, OLB, Miami (OH)
6:193: Cooper Wallace, TE, Auburn
7:209: Josh Betts, QB, Miami (OH)
7:231: Daryn Colledge, OT, Boise State
My best guess. I think this draft would work exceptionally well.
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"I can do zero 225lb lifts, and my 40 is in the 6.something range"
I think I could squeeze out one or two at 225 but, the last time I ran the 40 was for highschool track and I got beat by a 325 lb offensive lineman (I was 186 lbs at the time) . Needless to say I ran LONG distance (mile and two mile). So they have to time me with a sundial or a calender.
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From Pat Kirwan of NFL.com
"The college games are a distant memory, the bowl games, All-Star games and Scouting Combine are long gone, and the personal workouts and pre-draft visits are just about over as teams are making their final preparations for the draft. Now, as club executives sit and look up at their draft boards, they realize that many players have similar or identical grades and there still is work to be done to separate all the players that are grouped together. Now is the time for the scout or coach with a special knowledge of a certain player to stand up on the soap box for a young man and bring something to the table to differentiate one man from another.
Anyone who has been around a team's draft room with just a few days or weeks to go before the draft knows how important it is for the club staff member with the strongest feelings about a certain individual to stand up now or forever hold his peace. It is a form of campaigning for a guy who needs a push right now. If the information provided sparks an interest among the rest of the group in the room then further video study will be initiated or a late visit to the player will be ordered.
Because of my daily radio show at Sirius Radio, the interviews I do for NFL.com and my preparation for NFL Network spots, I talk with many of the draft eligible players each year. A few club executives have asked me about certain individuals and it is something I take very seriously. This pre-draft season has been very revealing when it comes to certain players, and if I were in a draft room this week, there are a few players I would jump up for and defend off the things I have learned about them over the past four months.
The first question on my mind is always: Would I want this guy on my team? Is there any rare athletic ability that gives him the tools to succeed? Is there a humility about the player that convinces me he will stay hungry? And is he bright enough to survive in the world of professional football? You might enjoy what I learned about the following players:
1. Manny Lawson, LB, N.C. State: Here's a college defensive end rising up the draft boards for good reason. He's 6-foot-5, 241 pounds and runs a 4.4 40-yard dash. His 17 sacks in the past two seasons tells a little of his story about the kind of athlete he is, but a conversation I had with him recently told me a lot more. Lawson was offered a basketball scholarship to Davidson College coming out of high school, which tells me he will not struggle in space dropping back in pass coverage in a 3-4 defense. As a high school track-and-field athlete, he triple jumped close to 50 feet and long jumped just under 25 feet, making him one of the best jumpers in the country. As a college defensive end, he was a member of N.C. State's 4x100-meter relay team. Imagine a 6-5 defensive lineman on a sprint relay team -- that is rare! He finished up our conversation telling me his post-football career plans involve his other love, architecture.
Santonio Holmes has gone from overlooked high school player to likely the draft's top WR.
2. Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State: This young man was almost as impressive to talk with as Lawson. Here's a 5-10 wide receiver that is either the first or second receiver on every draft board in the NFL. He was passed over by every Florida university coming out of high school because he was 160 pounds. He should have never left the state coming out of Belle Glade High School, where he ran 46.8 in the 400 meters and high jumped 6-10. Imagine a 5-10, 160-pound kid clearing a bar a foot over his head!
3. Maurice Drew, RB, UCLA: I talk with this young man every week and, like Holmes, he wears a chip on his shoulder very nicely. He's 5-6 and laughs when he tells me some pro coach measured him at 5-7. He's not afraid to let you know he compares favorably to Reggie Bush as an athlete and by no means does he sound cocky. Drew comes from a great family, never misses his scheduled time slot to talk with me and never forgets a thing that we have discussed in the past. Character and professionalism just ooze out of this short but not small young man.
4. Reggie Bush, RB, USC: Why a quick segment on the top pick in the NFL draft? Because he carries himself as a very humble young man that doesn't assume he's the top football player in America. I have talked with Bush many times and there are two things that jump out at me the most: his total focus to doing things the right way all day every day, and how much NFL owners who meet him are going to feel comfortable paying him a ton of money because he is a safe pick -- and a man with integrity.
5. Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland: The first time I spoke with Davis, I was so impressed at his engaging style. He is articulate and immediately I felt like I was talking to a future superstar. Tom Brady made me feel that way the first time I sat down with him and discussed football. Guys who played against Davis describe him as a freak. I prefer to look at him as a rare athlete with an incredible score of 85 when you combine his vertical leap (42 inches), standing broad jump (10-8) and his bench-press reps (33). I challenge any NFL scout to go back 10 years in the draft and find 20 guys with an 85 that weren't defensive linemen.
6. Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma: Talking with Joseph was like talking to an NFL line coach. He's played against the best, remembers everything about every opponent he faced in his four years at Oklahoma, and has an opinion about all of them. Successful NFL offensive linemen usually are some of the brightest guys on a team and Joseph will fit right into that mold. He recalled little subtleties about Oregon's Haloti Ngata from his junior year, stunts that former USC defensive tackle Shaun Cody used in the Orange Bowl two seasons ago, and what his blocking plan would be when he faces Michigan's Gabe Watson again. Any team who interviewed Joseph walked away knowing he was a sure bet to have a long NFL career.
Eric Winston is more focused on becoming a good pro than worrying about draft rumors.
7. Eric Winston, OT, Miami: I talk with Winston every week at Sirius Radio and it is refreshing to here a guy speak about the reality of not controlling the draft process. Winston hears all the whispers that USC tackle Winston Justice has moved past him after a great Pro Day but he is unfazed by the rumors. Too many young men waiting for the NFL draft are listening to all the draft talk and whispers about their stock rising and falling. I get off the phone with Winston every week more impressed than the week before about his maturity. He knows people think his arms are too short and that he had a slow start to his senior season coming off an injury, but I guarantee you he will compete at a high level in the NFL and he has the brains and personality to take criticism and get better.
8. Mathais Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College: I first met Kiwanuka on the sideline of a Senior Bowl practice when he was having a bad day against D'Brickashaw Ferguson. We talked for close to 10 minutes and what impressed me most was his pride and desire to handle a bad situation the best he could at the time. What I saw was a guy who is not going to be satisfied to just have a big payday in late April at the draft and fade into the sunset as a bust. Later on this spring, months after that day in Mobile, Ala., I spoke with Kiwanuka again and I went right back to Ferguson. He told me how much he learned from those three days of frustration against the top tackle in the draft and he was working hard to grow from what the Virginia tackle exposed in his pass-rush skills. Anyone who heard that interview would walk away confident that Kiwanuka is a player that will self-correct at the pro level, and that is a critical trait to have to survive.
9. Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State: The top defensive end in the draft is a kid from a good family with good values and a sense of humor. I asked Williams how often the opposing offenses slide the protection to him and he chuckled and said close to 90 percent of the time. He laughed because he knew former teammates Manny Lawson and John McCargo wouldn't agree. By the way, when I told them what Williams said, they laughed too. Williams will be the top graded player on a number of draft boards -- ahead of Reggie Bush -- and when I told him that might be the case, he was so quick to say that's nice but really doesn't mean a thing if he doesn't play well when he gets to the NFL. By the way, that rare score of 85 which I mentioned when I discussed Vernon Davis, well, Williams also had an 85. I mentioned to him how rare that score was, and instead of thanking me, he mentioned where he thought there was room for improvement!
10. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia: Talking to Ferguson felt like talking with a local pastor of a church. He's grounded and is a kid who has great respect for his parents. He loves to tell the story about how his parents named him after a character from a movie they watched and how they wanted him to be different. He reminded me so much of an interview I did with Jonathan Ogden when he was coming out of UCLA. There was no doubt that after his 12 to 15 years in the NFL, Ferguson is destined to do much more important things off the field.
11. Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State: The son of New York Giants running back Rob Carpenter leans on his dad for advice and it has paid nice dividends so far in his career. I interviewed Bobby Carpenter for close to half an hour, and when I was finished I felt the same way as I did after getting to know Lofa Tatupu. Tatupu is the son of a former NFL player and it was no surprise he quickly became the leader of the Seahawks defense. He knew about pro football from a very young age and so does Carpenter. I left my time with Carpenter thinking he's got as good a chance to be a middle linebacker and lead a defense as Tatupu did coming out of college.
12. Michael Huff, DB, Texas: Probably the best interview I did all year was with the senior defensive back from Texas. If there was ever a "blue chip" guy in a draft, it's Mike Huff. He has it all -- the intangibles, the production and the athleticism to be a great pro. Heck, I felt like I was talking to a 10-year veteran. There are not many John Lynch-type guys who come into the NFL with the whole package, but Huff is such a man. Talk about guys I would love to have on my team, Huff would be the captain!
13. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson: I have really come to respect Tye Hill. I first met him at the Senior Bowl when he told me he decided to play to prove he wasn't some track guy. A chip on his shoulder is always a good place to start with me. By the way, he was a 47-second 400-meter man in high school and a college 100-meter champion. He knows his 41-inch vertical leap makes up for his 5-9 height and his closing speed at the Senior Bowl tells me he has the physical issues covered. What's more impressive is his desire to be a great pro. He looks for advice, takes suggestions and wants to learn from the older guys who have been around.
14. Anthony Smith, S, Syracuse: The Syracuse defensive back is a bit under the radar screen, but his performance down at the Senior Bowl sparked my interest. He plays much faster than his advertised speed, and the more tape of him I watched, the more intriguing he became as a player. After I got the chance to talk with Smith in person and on the phone, the more I thought this is a guy who would be a steal in the third round and a wise choice in the second round. He reminds me so much of Jay Bellamy when he came out of Rutgers years ago. Bellamy was thought to be to slow but 10 years later he's still collecting pay checks in the NFL.
15. Owen Daniels, TE, Wisconsin: I ran into Daniels down on a beach in Florida. He was sitting with my brother, a high school coach in Illinois, and they were talking ball. Daniels is a former quarterback now finishing up a decent career as a 254-pound move tight end for Wisconsin. Talk about smart and capable of understanding option routes against coverages, I'll put Daniels' FBI (football intelligence) up against anyone in this draft. He will fit into an NFL team like Chris Cooley fits in Washington.
16. Victor Adeyanju, DE, Indiana: I can't finish up this report with out a quick shot at the Indiana defensive end. I have been lucky enough to talk to Adeyanju close to 10 times since his season ended. He has pass-rush skills, the smarts to play some 3-4 outside linebacker, and the personality to last in the NFL. As Eric Winston told me, "Victor is really hard to fool on the screen pass and draw and he rushes the passer real hard." Adeyanju is another young man with a great family and a foundation to last in a league where more talented players fall to the wayside because they can't handle success.
So, there it is, my 16 trips to the soap box to try and add a little something to the story being told about a few players in this draft. If nothing else, maybe, just maybe, someone decides to do a little more work on the guys mentioned above. Or even better, they already knew all about them."
Just a little documentation. I believe strongly that the two most important attributes of any successful Pro Football player are attitude (including desire to play the game) and intelligence. Jimmy Johnson was once quoted as saying "Shoot me if I ever draft a dumb football player." Maybe that is what draws me to the sport, baseball players and basketball players (to some extent) can get by on pure athletic ability, football is so complex that pure athletic ability is not enough, Cases like Brady, Montana, Zach Thomas, Peyton, Jimmy Smith ect. none of these guys were the most athletic or best pure talents they simply out-worked and out-thought their competition.
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Manny Lawson, I am not sure whose been riding the Lawson bandwagon more TJ or Me.
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QB: Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer
RB: Ladainian Tomlinson, Shaun Alexander
FB: Lorenzo Neal, Jeremi Johnson
WR: Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Torry Holt, Larry Fitzgerald (TO and Moss, while talented won't make any team of mine)
TE: Antonio Gates, Todd Heap
LT: Walter Jones, Orlando Pace
LG: Steve Huchinson, Alan Faneca
C: Olin Kreutz, Matt Birk
RG: Will Shields, Shawn Andrews
RT: Willie Anderson, John Runyan
RDE: Dwight Freeney, Simeon Rice
RDT: Shaun Rogers, Marcus Stroud
LDT: Kris Jenkins, John Henderson
LDE: Julius Peppers, John Abraham
SSOLB: Keith Brooking, Shawn Merriman
MLB: Jonathan Vilma, Al Wilson
WSOLB: Takeo Spikes, Derrick Brooks
SS: Troy Polamalu, Roy Williams
FS: Ed Reed, Madieu Williams
RCB: Champ Bailey, Chris Gamble
LCB: DeAngelo Hall, Deltha Oneal
P: Brian Moorman, Josh Bidwell
K: Adam Vinteri, Mike Vanderjagt
PR: Dante Hall, Antwaan Randle El
KR: Jerome Mathis, Dante Hall
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O-H!
I-U...isn't that how it is supposed to go, i'l have to ask my wife she's the OSU alum in the house.
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Lewis
Klopfenstein
Pope
Thomas
Fasano
Byrd.
Just my opinion...No neccessarily a knock on Pope but I have Klopfenstein rated higher than I had Miller last year, I think any of the top 7 (Davis is of course rated higher than everyone) would be a substantial improvement over what we had last year.
Klop has great hands, catches the ball away from his body, has the speed to get deep and the toughness to go over the middle, I also think he is a better blocker than everyone gives him credit.
I like Pope but I think you have to spend #24 on him and I just don't see the amazing difference between him and the other guys normally rated behind him, I haven't seen a single play on tape where he left his feet to catch a ball and very few where he broke a long run after the catch.
Both Klopfenstein and Thomas are better after the catch IMHO but then again I had Leftwich rated higher than Palmer and wanted the Bengals to select Terrance Newman so what the hell do I know
.The long and the short of it is ANY of the top 7 TEs would be fantastic I just don't want to see any of them (with the exception of Davis) taken in the first round.
My preference would be
DE
TE
CB
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Awesome Resource.
I watched videos of Tapp, Hali, Kiwanuka, Lawson, Ngata, Bunkley, Pope, Lewis, Klopenstein, Watson, and Jimmy Williams.
I thought Pope looked pretty good, but not a first rounder IMHO and I still prefer Lewis and Klopfenstein in the second because of Lewis' production and Klops situation as the top threat on offense.
Lawson and Bunkley both looked like they were shot out of a cannon, the player that really impressed me was Darryl Tapp he looked smart, strong, and quick. I thought Hali looked slow but that is just my opinion he certainly had a great year last year. Watson looked ok, Ngata looked great running down RBs at the sideline, awesome.
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Dwight Freeney came out of Syracuse.
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LINK: http://www.gbnreport.com/
Thought this might spark conversation, if Favre wants to play for a winner and only wants to play one more year and won't mind stepping aside for Palmer when he gets healthy, I'd do this for a second rounder.
You know from last year Chad would love Favre to throw balls to him
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If we are going to take a QB in the 4th or 5th my vote would be Brodie Croyle of Alabama, i mean, that guy knows how to win and just did everything for that team last year, very impressive character and has a quick release and good velocity on his throws to boot.
Personally I'd like to spend either our 6th or first seventh on Josh Betts from Miami (OH) that is another kid who has really impressed me and had some good workout numbers in his pro day.
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I am very pro Manny Lawson.
6'6" 241 lbs runs a 4.41 40 with a 39.5 vert. jump and WR times in the 3 cone and shuttle. To top that off he had 19 TFL last season and 10.5 sacks and he recently graduated NC State with an engineering degree, whats not to like he was a team captain for the Wolfpack last year as well.
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No way they are the best team in the NFL, hell they were not even the best team last season they just strung together 6 good games at the end when it counts the most.
It helped that they knocked Palmer out of the game after the second play. I have friends who are steeler fans and they honestly believe the game would not have turned out any different if Palmer had not gotten injured...all I can say is 1/1 66 yards First and ten on the fifteen yardline.
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Aaron Smith is Pittsburgh's best DE, but the Squeelers did lose alot, I personally think Randle El coul dbe a star...then again I am an Indiana Alumni and thus biased.
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You know Lawson is graduating this year with an Engineering degree. Wimbley???
They both played the same people more or less...if Wimbley has better pass rushing skills than why don't the statistics show it? As far as Lawson playing across from a freak, yes, but at the beginning of the year based upon the previous years production I would game plan to stop Lawson since he was far more productive than Mario Williams (mind you it was Williams first year as a starter) in the 2004-2005 college year. And for that matter, Wimbley wasn't playing with freaks? Bunkley? Sims? Cromartie? plus the top flight defensive players that graduated last year and will graduate next? EVERYONE on Florida State is a freak to be reckoned with.
In my mind 6'4" 248 is not stocky, heck I am 6'3" 238 and I am CERTANLY not stocky, and while he is stockier than Lawson there was basicly no difference in their weight room performance and certainly no difference in their functional football strength as it relates to their play on the field.
Maybe I am wrong, it certainly wouldn't be the first time I have been wrong about a player but I just cannot see anything that would explain why Wimbley would be a better pro prospect than Lawson.
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How do I attach the Manny Lawson Sig to my account?
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DE in the First (possibly OLB if we are serious about switching to a base 3-4 my guess is Manny Lawson)
TE in the second (Marcedes Lewis, Joel Klopfenstein)
S in the third (Pollard, Bing, Bullocks, Blue, Slay, Watkins whomever falls) is my guess
Best Offensive Player not CP,CJ,TJ, or RJ?
in Cincinnati Bengals
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Offensive Line.
1) Levi
2) Steinbach
3) Willie
4) Braham
5) Bobby