TJJackson

It is getting hard to compare listings from various sources because many prospects are listed as OT on one source and OG (or IOL) on others Good example is Vera-Tucker. Played OLT, but is generally listed as IOL, but not always. Slater should as near as I can tell be listed purely as an OG/IOL, but almost always listed as a OT etc etc That said, since we need both, I want to find an impact player at both spots

Just sayin I dont see Darrisaw as sliding past the low 20s in r1

I am hearing Mahomes has a concussion.......that could certainly keep him out of net week's game. Again, part of me is sad about this but I do want the Bills in the Superbowl instead of KC (again) so there's that I am torn between the Saints and Tampa. Both have won superbowls. Brees has family in Cincinnati and I kinda hate Tom Brady in the Superbowl so gimme the Saints Saints - Bills Superbowl. I like it.

BUF UH LOW BUF UH LOW :-) Mahomes recovery or lack thereof could determine the Bills fate. I'd honestly like a cleaner victory with a healthy Mahomes in, but I want the Bills to get into the Superbowl for one more chance at the big trophy goooooooooOOOOOOO small market teams!

Darrisaw.....in r2? seriously?

I do feel bad for Big Whit, but hey, my team (the Bills) took out the much hated Ravens and advanced to the AFC Conference Championship! woo hoo! next......gooooooOOOOOO Chiefs!

I think we are more or less in agreement for a change, Mem. Through a combination of picking up two high quality OL and possibly shifting Williams to ORT or OG to optimize the arrangement of the 5 starters on the OL. (not saying I want Jonah moved, rather, I want the best possible arrangement of the 5 and if moving Jonah accomplishes that then so be it) In such a case, I'd still want an OL no later than r3, and preferably earlier in the 2021 draft; and I dont think taking one in r1 - Darrisaw, Cosmi, or Slater, for example - would be out of the question either if we traded down

I am certainly in favor of adding Wade Philips to our staff, but since the FO has (unfortunately) decided to back and retain Lou as DC, what position would we give Philips that would have him doing the kind of things he wants to do in his return to the NFL? I am presuming he wants to return as a DC - and many other teams not located in Cincinnati can offer him that exact position

The skinner piece left me kinda like hanging my mouth open. The "dont take an OL in r1" part of it almost translates to "if the Bengals take a OL in r1, said OL will for that reason only suck in the NFL" Which to flip the coin means said same OL will do well as long as some OTHER team drafts him so......uhm.....yeah, you do you, Skinny all that aside, I have been a fan of the tradedown since the beginning, since we need more than one player to turn this ship around

Mem: I was unable to read that list because of the size of the image all: Skinny says we should address the OL in FA, and with regards to the 5th overall pick: either trade down or draft at a position other than OL https://local12.com/sports/bengals/why-bengals-should-avoid-taking-sewell-or-any-offensive-lineman-with-fifth-pick-penei-cincinnati-nfl-draft-cedric-ogbuehi-billy-price

Lap says GIMME A LINEMAN https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/gm-report/dave-lapham-bengals-offseason-needs

C in such a case is still Hopkins or (in case Hopkins isnt healthy by then) Price?

I will be far more accepting of a WR (and I hope Waddle is in consideration by that time) in early r1 if the Bengals not only re-sign Lawson and Daniels but also sign a quality player at EACH of the following positions: passrushing DE, ORT, and OG. If they decide to move Williams to ORT or OG, and have made clear their intentions to do so, then they need to sign a quality OLT instead. I like the man named Fred, but not to the point of settling on him as our starter at OLT........swing tackle, at least for now. related aside: If they fail to re-sign WJ3, CB becomes a H U G E need that should be addressed in both FA and the draft. Hopefully, they just do the right thing and re-sign WJ3. related aside 2: I keep reading that Alexander will sign elsewhere for 3M a year, and thats a bargain imo, so hopefully we can sign him for 3.5 to 4M per year for another 2-4 years

I get all that, honestly I do I am also certain that drafting either one of the two WRs (or Waddle) will reap benefits for us I maintain that the need is greatest on the lines; and yes, need is a factor in drafting. If (to use an exagerrated example) the BPA is WR at every opportunity to pick, it would not be wise to take a WR with all 7 (or in our case, 8) picks. Need does factor in

I know there are a number of you who think taking a WR at 5 would be a good thing - and I understand your reasoning, and I've little doubt that the two WRs mostly being discussed will be great WRs in the NFL Here's the 3 (make that 4) main reasons (aside from GIMME A LINEMAN) why I think it isnt a good thing - or, more precisely, why I think it isnt the best way to go at this spot in no particular order 1) we have two outstanding receivers already Higgins and Boyd. I know the NFL is becoming a passing first league with many many many 3WR alignments, and further, what other NFL team has 3 corners who can cover well enough to deal with 3 elite WRs? Yea, I understand. That said, a third high-end WR is for my way of thinking a luxury in a spot where we are already "rich" on a team which is "poor" in so many other spots - including but not limited to both the lines 2) The two WRs in discussion - Chase and Smith - both lack great speed Neither of these two guys has the kind of speed that I believe the WR we need will have. Ross was supposed to be that guy - world class speed that could stretch the field even on plays where he wasnt targeted. The player that many draftheads see as the third WR off the board - Waddle - is more the type I think we should be targeting. 3) The two WRs in discussion lack size The typical successful Bengals WR is over 6 foot tall with some meat on their bones. Chase is barely 6 foot, while Smith is two inches shorter. Smith is also very lightweight, barely 175 pounds; and I worry that his body will hold up to the pounding he'll take in the NFL 4) This WR class is very deep I believe from what I am reading - from multiple sources - that we will be able to get a quality WR2 or WR3 (I see Boyd sorta kinda as WR3 because he seems to operate best out of the slot) as late as round 4. Other needs, if we want a high quality player - will need to be addressed earlier. I know many of ya'all disagree, and I'm fine with that. I just wanted to present my side also - GIMME A LINEMAN (but not Rosseau) also 2: If I was forced to choose between the two - gimme Chase even though he took 2020 off (for understandable reasons) because he is a bit bigger and hopefully this means his durability will be a bit better.