Thank the Steelers for 1 thing

[Jet23]

I will say one thing. I always thought of Hines Ward as a 'class guy'. I don't know, maybe I bought into the media's opinion of him. This guy is nothing but a punk!

Also, I love how ML slammed Big Ben in the post game. Big difference in how the two qbs reacted to shots to their knee. Unlike Ben, I don't think Carson whined like a little girl.

[Ox]

I will say one thing. I always thought of Hines Ward as a 'class guy'. I don't know, maybe I bought into the media's opinion of him. This guy is nothing but a punk!

Also, I love how ML slammed Big Ben in the post game. Big difference in how the two qbs reacted to shots to their knee. Unlike Ben, I don't think Carson whined like a little girl.

My thoughts exactly.

[indybengalsfan72]

I will say one thing. I always thought of Hines Ward as a 'class guy'. I don't know, maybe I bought into the media's opinion of him. This guy is nothing but a punk!

Also, I love how ML slammed Big Ben in the post game. Big difference in how the two qbs reacted to shots to their knee. Unlike Ben, I don't think Carson whined like a little girl.

My thoughts exactly.

Hopefully, Colts Safety Bob Sanders knocks Ward senseless in their matchup.

[HairOnFire]

A couple of thoughts.

Kimo isn't a dirty player. Bengal fans watched that man play for years and as a result the question of if he's a dirty player should never be asked.

The Steelers aren't a dirty team. However, there are as many punks on that team as there are classy professionals, and the punks will always get the attention they crave. And remember, that punk stuff begins each Sunday, long before the whistle blows, with Joey Porter doing his stupid pregame crap at midfield. A classy organization would have put a stop to that by now...instead of encouraging it. And yeah, I believe that type of punk behavior is encouraged because over and over again, in each critical game played, we see a show of chippy over-the-top crap like that just witnessed against the Bengals, previously against the Colts, et cetera. Dirty play? Absolutely not. Classy professionalism? Absolutely not.

Finally, too many Steeler fans ARE idiots. Yeah, many of them can claim that the morons don't accurately represent Steeler nation, but that's not true. Not when it's so easy to find examples of Steeler fans talking about rooting for injuries or putting a bounty on Palmer or O'Dell even after the admission from a Steeler player that he had tripped a blitzing O'Dell into the Steeler QB in the earlier game. Simply put, the reason Steeler fans are faced with questions about if their team may be dirty is largely due to their own reactions to earlier events. Had your own players and fans reacted to things with more class than they did then much of the talk we're now hearing wouldn't be said at all.

Oh, and any Steeler fan who really thinks that the loss of Palmer didn't change anything, including the potential outcome of the game itself, can step to the front of the idiot's line.

[walshfan]

Its what rivalries are made of.....distain for the opponent

[double]

Guys,

I am a Steelers fan, and proud of it. But I'm not here to talk smack, just to offer my opinion. First, I'm sure the game would've been different with Palmer, i mean he's the definitely the second best QB in the league this year, maybe the first. When I saw that first pass it brought flashbacks to Steelers-Indy on MNF, I thought we were in for a long day. Granted, i'll take the win. As far as "the hit", I don't think it was an intentional cheap shot. You could see he was concerned after the play, and after the game he aplogized to Carson, his family, and Bengals fans. Even one of the Bengals players defended him, saying he know's what kind of player Kimo is and he wouldn't do it on purpose. Here is a link to the article from a Cincy newspaper: http://www.carthagepress.com/articles/2006...s/d8f13lng0.txt. I look forward to playing you guys next year, should be a great rivalry. Take care.

[CT Stiller]

I will say one thing. I always thought of Hines Ward as a 'class guy'. I don't know, maybe I bought into the media's opinion of him. This guy is nothing but a punk!

Also, I love how ML slammed Big Ben in the post game. Big difference in how the two qbs reacted to shots to their knee. Unlike Ben, I don't think Carson whined like a little girl.

Not yet, but his coach did it for him. Whether he and Bengals fans realize it or not, making that statement was whining in and of itself.

Hines was a fan of Icky Woods growing up, he says he was paying homage to him. If you think that was "showing up" or "disrespecting" you then must really hate C. Johnson's "original" dances where he pushes his teammates away so the cameras can only get him in the shot.

[buck3y3d]

I will say one thing. I always thought of Hines Ward as a 'class guy'. I don't know, maybe I bought into the media's opinion of him. This guy is nothing but a punk!

Also, I love how ML slammed Big Ben in the post game. Big difference in how the two qbs reacted to shots to their knee. Unlike Ben, I don't think Carson whined like a little girl.

Not yet, but his coach did it for him. Whether he and Bengals fans realize it or not, making that statement was whining in and of itself.

Hines was a fan of Icky Woods growing up, he says he was paying homage to him. If you think that was "showing up" or "disrespecting" you then must really hate C. Johnson's "original" dances where he pushes his teammates away so the cameras can only get him in the shot.

Chad had been talking about doing the Ickey Shuffle in the playoffs for weaks. Ward does not do orriginal celebrations, he steals them That is why I don't like him. He has no creativity.

[CT Stiller]

The Steelers aren't a dirty team. However, there are as many punks on that team as there are classy professionals, and the punks will always get the attention they crave. And remember, that punk stuff begins each Sunday, long before the whistle blows, with Joey Porter doing his stupid pregame crap at midfield. A classy organization would have put a stop to that by now...instead of encouraging it. And yeah, I believe that type of punk behavior is encouraged because over and over again, in each critical game played, we see a show of chippy over-the-top crap like that just witnessed against the Bengals, previously against the Colts, et cetera. Dirty play? Absolutely not. Classy professionalism? Absolutely not.

I agree with you about Porter, I think he can be an a**h***. I also think in his prime he was a great LB. But that's besides the point. And if you believe the Organization is to blame, why don't you have a problem with C. Johnson and Houshmandahdeh's antics as well? Not only do they show the opponent up but they show up his teammates at times as well. ANd the video? Come on, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

"Chippiness" is part of football. Especially during division rivalry games. You don't see that behavior during Ravens or Browns games?

Finally, too many Steeler fans ARE idiots. Yeah, many of them can claim that the morons don't accurately represent Steeler nation, but that's not true. Not when it's so easy to find examples of Steeler fans talking about rooting for injuries or putting a bounty on Palmer or O'Dell even after the admission from a Steeler player that he had tripped a blitzing O'Dell into the Steeler QB in the earlier game. Simply put, the reason Steeler fans are faced with questions about if their team may be dirty is largely due to their own reactions to earlier events. Had your own players and fans reacted to things with more class than they did then much of the talk we're now hearing wouldn't be said at all.

Oh, and any Steeler fan who really thinks that the loss of Palmer didn't change anything, including the potential outcome of the game itself, can step to the front of the idiot's line.

So if you think we acted with no class regarding the Odell hit, you must think the same about your fellow Bengals fans now?

I definitely think it affected the game. To what extent is impossible to say. I think the Steelers still would have won.

Chad had been talking about doing the Ickey Shuffle in the playoffs for weaks. Ward does not do orriginal celebrations, he steals them That is why I don't like him. He has no creativity.

THAT's why you don't like him? Kind of strange reason to not like a football player.

My opinion... He doesn't spend his time planning these things out. He does things spur of the moment. Chad loves to be the center of attention, as evidenced by the fact that he has to hint to reporters that he's planning things out. So if something happens, the cameras are ready for him. If he does score and is allowed to do his little dances, he pushes his teammates away so they can't get in the way of the shot. The guy's a media whore, great player, but a whore.

[Ox]

I definitely think it affected the game. To what extent is impossible to say. I think the Steelers still would have won.

And that, CT, is why it is great to love in this country. You can "think" however you want. However, you've got just as many others thinking that the Bengals would have won. Fact is, we shall never know.

[CT Stiller]

Hopefully, Colts Safety Bob Sanders knocks Ward senseless in their matchup.

Or vice-versa, which is why Hines was voted a dirty player a few years ago. The same guys (safeties and LBers) who make their living trying to take WRs out of the game were whining about Hines smacking them too hard on blocks. Bunch of crybabies aren't used to having to defend themselves, only to hit offensive players and try to take them out of the game.

[Jet23]

A couple of thoughts.

Kimo isn't a dirty player. Bengal fans watched that man play for years and as a result the question of if he's a dirty player should never be asked.

The Steelers aren't a dirty team. However, there are as many punks on that team as there are classy professionals, and the punks will always get the attention they crave. And remember, that punk stuff begins each Sunday, long before the whistle blows, with Joey Porter doing his stupid pregame crap at midfield. A classy organization would have put a stop to that by now...instead of encouraging it. And yeah, I believe that type of punk behavior is encouraged because over and over again, in each critical game played, we see a show of chippy over-the-top crap like that just witnessed against the Bengals, previously against the Colts, et cetera. Dirty play? Absolutely not. Classy professionalism? Absolutely not.

Finally, too many Steeler fans ARE idiots. Yeah, many of them can claim that the morons don't accurately represent Steeler nation, but that's not true. Not when it's so easy to find examples of Steeler fans talking about rooting for injuries or putting a bounty on Palmer or O'Dell even after the admission from a Steeler player that he had tripped a blitzing O'Dell into the Steeler QB in the earlier game. Simply put, the reason Steeler fans are faced with questions about if their team may be dirty is largely due to their own reactions to earlier events. Had your own players and fans reacted to things with more class than they did then much of the talk we're now hearing wouldn't be said at all.

Oh, and any Steeler fan who really thinks that the loss of Palmer didn't change anything, including the potential outcome of the game itself, can step to the front of the idiot's line.

Well said!

[HairOnFire]

I agree with you about Porter, I think he can be an a**h***. I also think in his prime he was a great LB. But that's besides the point. And if you believe the Organization is to blame, why don't you have a problem with C. Johnson and Houshmandahdeh's antics as well? Not only do they show the opponent up but they show up his teammates at times as well. ANd the video? Come on, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

"Chippiness" is part of football. Especially during division rivalry games. You don't see that behavior during Ravens or Browns games?

If you were a regular on this board you'd know that I don't care very much for Chad's celebrations. That said, his antics are silly stuff that I wish he wouldn't bother with, and aren't really comparable to the over-the-top let's fight at midfield before the game starts crap that is a weekly ritual at Steeler games. And on that point, the fact that your team has done NOTHING to curb that sort of behavior says it all.

As for the chippiness that you're attempting to defend, it's bush league. And the sad part about it is the fact that the Steelers are far too good to act like a bush league team. They're more than capable of enforcing their will upon the opposing team by dominating them from whistle to whistle without the stupid displays of punk behavior that prompts so many of you to cheer.

[barnsleypgh]

I don't think Kemo's hit was intentional, but what really pissed me off was Hines and Antwaan making fun of how their trick play worked on the sidelines and egging on the fans near the sideline. Yea, you can do that if it was a regular game, but seriously, with Palmer out, we had no chance and they knew that. If he was in it would have been a different story. Still hate Hines.

Gee, I guess you forgot when TJ wiped his feet with a terrible towel in front of Steeler fans at Heinz Field huh? That and the fact that you have the biggest show off big mouth for a receiver, next to TO of course, in Bad Chad...come on...showboating is all part of the game.

I will say one thing. I always thought of Hines Ward as a 'class guy'. I don't know, maybe I bought into the media's opinion of him. This guy is nothing but a punk!

Also, I love how ML slammed Big Ben in the post game. Big difference in how the two qbs reacted to shots to their knee. Unlike Ben, I don't think Carson whined like a little girl.

My thoughts exactly.

Hopefully, Colts Safety Bob Sanders knocks Ward senseless in their matchup.

Hmmm....so now you are CONDONING injuring a player intentionally?

[CBin2k7]

Chad loves to be the center of attention, as evidenced by the fact that he has to hint to reporters that he's planning things out. So if something happens, the cameras are ready for him. If he does score and is allowed to do his little dances, he pushes his teammates away so they can't get in the way of the shot. The guy's a media whore, great player, but a whore.

[indybengalsfan72]

I don't think Kemo's hit was intentional, but what really pissed me off was Hines and Antwaan making fun of how their trick play worked on the sidelines and egging on the fans near the sideline. Yea, you can do that if it was a regular game, but seriously, with Palmer out, we had no chance and they knew that. If he was in it would have been a different story. Still hate Hines.

Gee, I guess you forgot when TJ wiped his feet with a terrible towel in front of Steeler fans at Heinz Field huh? That and the fact that you have the biggest show off big mouth for a receiver, next to TO of course, in Bad Chad...come on...showboating is all part of the game.

I will say one thing. I always thought of Hines Ward as a 'class guy'. I don't know, maybe I bought into the media's opinion of him. This guy is nothing but a punk!

Also, I love how ML slammed Big Ben in the post game. Big difference in how the two qbs reacted to shots to their knee. Unlike Ben, I don't think Carson whined like a little girl.

My thoughts exactly.

Hopefully, Colts Safety Bob Sanders knocks Ward senseless in their matchup.

Hmmm....so now you are CONDONING injuring a player intentionally?

Hell yes! If thats what Pittsburgh's intention was, then you should see how it feels. It's very ironic that this happened, after Hines Ward vowed revenge when Thurman was accidentally tripped into Ben's leg.

[Spain]

No s**t we play these f**ks nextyear. Go for the legs , kill Ben. Let those bastard fans come to Cincy for the game next year. Cock suckers!

[Stripes]

No s**t we play these f**ks nextyear. Go for the legs , kill Ben. Let those bastard fans come to Cincy for the game next year. Cock suckers!

You're entitled to your opinion Spain, but please... take it here. http://forums.bengalszone.com/index.php?showtopic=9467

[CT Stiller]

If you were a regular on this board you'd know that I don't care very much for Chad's celebrations. That said, his antics are silly stuff that I wish he wouldn't bother with, and aren't really comparable to the over-the-top let's fight at midfield before the game starts crap that is a weekly ritual at Steeler games. And on that point, the fact that your team has done NOTHING to curb that sort of behavior says it all.

As for the chippiness that you're attempting to defend, it's bush league. And the sad part about it is the fact that the Steelers are far too good to act like a bush league team. They're more than capable of enforcing their will upon the opposing team by dominating them from whistle to whistle without the stupid displays of punk behavior that prompts so many of you to cheer.

It happens probably twice a year and Ray Lewis does this crap all the time. I don't like it either, it's kind of idiotic behavior in my opinion. The guy's emotional, but it's not an excuse. There's not much you can do about that type of behavior ahead of time. You can fine him, warn him, etc. but when you make that much money and you have that hot of a head, you probably don't care too much when your blood begins to boil.

I'm not attempting to defend anything. I'm telling you what I see with every team in the league. Maybe the drunkard Steelers fans love to see Polomalu throwing the ball at an offensive lineman and will cheer their asses off, but to me it's stuff that's going to cost the team yards and possibly points. I thought it was a stupid thing to do and I wanted to throw something at him. I don't know if you noticed the Bengals players doing the same stuff, though.

Chad loves to be the center of attention, as evidenced by the fact that he has to hint to reporters that he's planning things out. So if something happens, the cameras are ready for him. If he does score and is allowed to do his little dances, he pushes his teammates away so they can't get in the way of the shot. The guy's a media whore, great player, but a whore.

The reason Chad pushed his teammates away on his celebrations is because it is a penalty and a fine to do a group celebration as witnessed by a fine received by Chris Henry after Chad's putt celebration

[CT Stiller]

No s**t we play these f**ks nextyear. Go for the legs , kill Ben. Let those bastard fans come to Cincy for the game next year. Cock suckers!

What are you, 12?

[futurebengal08]

If you were a regular on this board you'd know that I don't care very much for Chad's celebrations. That said, his antics are silly stuff that I wish he wouldn't bother with, and aren't really comparable to the over-the-top let's fight at midfield before the game starts crap that is a weekly ritual at Steeler games. And on that point, the fact that your team has done NOTHING to curb that sort of behavior says it all.

As for the chippiness that you're attempting to defend, it's bush league. And the sad part about it is the fact that the Steelers are far too good to act like a bush league team. They're more than capable of enforcing their will upon the opposing team by dominating them from whistle to whistle without the stupid displays of punk behavior that prompts so many of you to cheer.

It happens probably twice a year and Ray Lewis does this crap all the time. I don't like it either, it's kind of idiotic behavior in my opinion. The guy's emotional, but it's not an excuse. There's not much you can do about that type of behavior ahead of time. You can fine him, warn him, etc. but when you make that much money and you have that hot of a head, you probably don't care too much when your blood begins to boil.

I'm not attempting to defend anything. I'm telling you what I see with every team in the league. Maybe the drunkard Steelers fans love to see Polomalu throwing the ball at an offensive lineman and will cheer their asses off, but to me it's stuff that's going to cost the team yards and possibly points. I thought it was a stupid thing to do and I wanted to throw something at him. I don't know if you noticed the Bengals players doing the same stuff, though.

Chad loves to be the center of attention, as evidenced by the fact that he has to hint to reporters that he's planning things out. So if something happens, the cameras are ready for him. If he does score and is allowed to do his little dances, he pushes his teammates away so they can't get in the way of the shot. The guy's a media whore, great player, but a whore.

The reason Chad pushed his teammates away on his celebrations is because it is a penalty and a fine to do a group celebration as witnessed by a fine received by Chris Henry after Chad's putt celebration

He's done it for years, and that doesn't make him any less of a media whore.

[HairOnFire]

It happens probably twice a year and Ray Lewis does this crap all the time. I don't like it either, it's kind of idiotic behavior in my opinion. The guy's emotional, but it's not an excuse. There's not much you can do about that type of behavior ahead of time. You can fine him, warn him, etc. but when you make that much money and you have that hot of a head, you probably don't care too much when your blood begins to boil.

Please, the pregame stuff at midfield isn't a case of a player so angry he can't contain his emotions. It's an example of a player repeatedly attempting to swap some smack, or a few punches, prior to the game And Bill Cowher could very easily do something about it...as well as the repeated examples of so-called chippy play...if it was important to him. But it isn't. In fact, I think his lack of action can be taken as quiet support for bush league intimidation tactics. After all, how else can you explain something being "tolerated" each and every game?

But whatever works is fine, right?

BTW, despite my own opinion that Kimo didn't cheap shot Palmer I've stumbled across plenty of nationally based media examples where the charge of deliberately injuring an opposing player are now being leveled at the Steelers organization. In fact, I just listened to about an hour of the topic being discussed on ESPN Radio. And the principle reason the accusations are being made is due to the previous comments made by Steeler players and fans after O'Dell was blocked into Roethlisburger. As our rivaly grows we now have unbiased observers making claims that Steeler players aren't above deliberately attempting to cripple a player as part of a bad blooded strategy to intimidate the opposition.

Unfair? Maybe, but in my opinion the more your team engages in bush league antics the more weight will be given to more serious accusations.

[cincycats]

take a look at this...

this guy thinks the steelers are good enough for the super bowl...

http://www.kutv.com/onlineoperative

He's also asking for Bengal fans thoughts... lets give him some!

his email is dware@kutv2.com

what a moron...

[Bengalsfan#1]

[belmontbengal]

Worst. post. ever.