Antaaj Hawthorne was a steal!

[DontPushMe]

cuts:

Oakland

WR James Adkisson, WR Cedric Bonner, FS Calvin Branch, G C.J. Brooks, C Vince Carter, TE Rickey Dudley, LB Jay Foreman, LB Akbar Gbaja-Biamila, RB DeJuan Green, DT Anttaj Hawthorne, FB Chris Hetherington, DE Jordan Hicks, T Robert Hicks, TE Teyo Johnson, T Brad Lekkerkkerker, DT Lorn Mayers, RB J.R. Niklos, SS Marquis Smith, QB Bret Engemann, LB Edward Thomas

Like I said (and got dissed for it), he was drafted low not because of his off the feild concerns, but because hes just not a good player.

Speaking of their cuts though, Teyo Johnson was a pretty good pass catching tight end I thought, maybe he would be one we could look at.

[BengalBax]

As always DPM, you are right and prove that praying to Jesus is useless when we could be praying to an almighty power like yourself.

[walshfan]

cuts:

Oakland

WR James Adkisson, WR Cedric Bonner, FS Calvin Branch, G C.J. Brooks, C Vince Carter, TE Rickey Dudley, LB Jay Foreman, LB Akbar Gbaja-Biamila, RB DeJuan Green, DT Anttaj Hawthorne, FB Chris Hetherington, DE Jordan Hicks, T Robert Hicks, TE Teyo Johnson, T Brad Lekkerkkerker, DT Lorn Mayers, RB J.R. Niklos, SS Marquis Smith, QB Bret Engemann, LB Edward Thomas

Like I said (and got dissed for it), he was drafted low not because of his off the feild concerns, but because hes just not a good player.

Speaking of their cuts though, Teyo Johnson was a pretty good pass catching tight end I thought, maybe he would be one we could look at.

Raiders put Hawthorne on their practice squad so they havent given up on him.

I dont think he's a BAD player.. I believe its more conditioning factor.. The rap on him was that he doesnt give it his all 100% of the time.. It may be his conditioning .

He didnt look good at the combine if I remember... Maybe they think with proper conditioning he can be effective down the road...

[Spain]

The guys not a hard worker! He needs to growup but no one will wait on him!

[HairOnFire]

I'm guessing that if the Bengals would have drafted Hawthorne Pushy would have ridiculed the pick for a week....only to reverse himself by calling it a great pick later on. Let's face it, he did it with Perry. He did it with Madieu. He did it with....

[H.B. Bengal]

DPM can "pong" himself just about anything.

/me does his very best secondbase impersonation.

[Stripes]

Brad Lekkerkerkker?

[DontPushMe]

I'm guessing that if the Bengals would have drafted Hawthorne Pushy would have ridiculed the pick for a week....only to reverse himself by calling it a great pick later on. Let's face it, he did it with Perry. He did it with Madieu. He did it with....

Actually I've already referenced back to my posts on Perry, showing you links with proof that I never was against that pick, the fact that you still cling to that being a thing is laughable and just shows how stupid you really are. As for madieu, i said hes a good player but he will never be as good as Corey Dillon, the player we traded away to get him, which is true. As good as Madieu might be, he will never be Dillon. Whats funny is I tell you this every time you try and make a comment like that, but it just cant get through your thick head. I feel sorry for those who have to be around you all the time.

[Stripes]

I'm guessing that if the Bengals would have drafted Hawthorne Pushy would have ridiculed the pick for a week....only to reverse himself by calling it a great pick later on. Let's face it, he did it with Perry. He did it with Madieu. He did it with....

Actually I've already referenced back to my posts on Perry, showing you links with proof that I never was against that pick, the fact that you still cling to that being a thing is laughable and just shows how stupid you really are. As for madieu, i said hes a good player but he will never be as good as Corey Dillon, the player we traded away to get him, which is true. As good as Madieu might be, he will never be Dillon. Whats funny is I tell you this every time you try and make a comment like that, but it just cant get through your thick head. I feel sorry for those who have to be around you all the time.

Comparing a RB to a FS is like comparing apples to oranges. We had Rudi to replace Dillon, and Rudi broke Dillon's record. To go with that, we aquired Madieu, who had a season worthy of Defensive Rookie of the Year consideration. He looks to develop into a pro-bowler. I'd say Madieu will certainly be as good a safety as Corey Dillon is a running back, and quite possibly better.

[Columbusbengal]

As for madieu, i said hes a good player but he will never be as good as Corey Dillon, the player we traded away to get him, which is true. As good as Madieu might be, he will never be Dillon. Whats funny is I tell you this every time you try and make a comment like that, but it just cant get through your thick head. I feel sorry for those who have to be around you all the time.

The point is not whether Madieu is better than Dillon. The point is that we NEEDED Madieu more than we needed Dillon. We had a replacement for Dillon (I won't say Rudy's better than Dillon or even as good, but he is certainly somewhat comparable). but we had NO ONE remotely comparable to Madieu. Therefore, it was worth trading Dillon.

[DontPushMe]

As for madieu, i said hes a good player but he will never be as good as Corey Dillon, the player we traded away to get him, which is true. As good as Madieu might be, he will never be Dillon. Whats funny is I tell you this every time you try and make a comment like that, but it just cant get through your thick head. I feel sorry for those who have to be around you all the time.

The point is not whether Madieu is better than Dillon. The point is that we NEEDED Madieu more than we needed Dillon. We had a replacement for Dillon (I won't say Rudy's better than Dillon or even as good, but he is certainly somewhat comparable). but we had NO ONE remotely comparable to Madieu. Therefore, it was worth trading Dillon.

Thats great. But this thread isnt to bring up old topics, this thread has nothing to do with Madieu, Dillon, Rudi, or anyone else. Its about Antajj Hawthorne.

[LesterLyles]

Whats funny is I think every NFL fanbase had this exact exchanege. Jets fans were calling for Bradway's head b/c we didn't pick Hawthorne.

[Stripes]

Whats funny is I think every NFL fanbase had this exact exchanege. Jets fans were calling for Bradway's head b/c we didn't pick Hawthorne.

Speaking of the Jets, how's Nugent doing for you so far? Just curious.

[HairOnFire]

But this thread isnt to bring up old topics, this thread has nothing to do with Madieu, Dillon, Rudi, or anyone else. Its about Antajj Hawthorne.

Are you really going to complain about someone else hijacking a thread? Damn, that's rich.

You flopped on Perry. You flopped on Madieu. If given the chance you would have flopped on Hawthorne.

We move on.

[DontPushMe]

But this thread isnt to bring up old topics, this thread has nothing to do with Madieu, Dillon, Rudi, or anyone else. Its about Antajj Hawthorne.

Are you really going to complain about someone else hijacking a thread? Damn, that's rich.

You flopped on Perry. You flopped on Madieu. If given the chance you would have flopped on Hawthorne.

We move on.

You cant possibly believe that. Ive linked you to my posts made right after the pick, I never said perry was a bad pick. Eventually you will figure it out, until then though, ill just laugh at you.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Eventually you will figure it out, until then though, ill just laugh at you.

Oh, I think we've figured it out. You are a close follower of John Kerry, and thus have learned how to flip flop faster than Flipper swims.

[DontPushMe]

Eventually you will figure it out, until then though, ill just laugh at you.

Oh, I think we've figured it out. You are a close follower of John Kerry, and thus have learned how to flip flop faster than Flipper swims.

LoL. No, what he needs to figure out is that I never once posted saying that Perry was a bad or wasted pick. Im not sure where this fictional idea came from in his head, but ive linked to my posts right after the pick was made, all were saying that it was a good pick. Its one of those things though where hes got this thought so deep in his brain that it is fact to him, even though its false. That happens a lot among stupid people, feel sorry for him.

[Bgal]

Every thread that DPM posts in becomes a thread about DPM. I'm not sure why everyone insists on doing this, but it gets old after a while.

And I was one of the people that thought we should have picked up Hawthorne as he continued to fall. I guess this is another reason why I'm not in the draft room.

[Stripes]

Every thread that DPM posts in becomes a thread about DPM. I'm not sure why everyone insists on doing this, but it gets old after a while.

And I was one of the people that thought we should have picked up Hawthorne as he continued to fall. I guess this is another reason why I'm not in the draft room.

Nice avatar Bgal.

[bengalboomer7]

Do you really have to start a whole thread just for a pissing contest.

[BengalszoneBilly]

I'm guessing that if the Bengals would have drafted Hawthorne Pushy would have ridiculed the pick for a week....only to reverse himself by calling it a great pick later on. Let's face it, he did it with Perry. He did it with Madieu. He did it with....

Actually I've already referenced back to my posts on Perry, showing you links with proof that I never was against that pick

Hmmm...If Pushy was initially against the Perry pick, he's done the most convincing flip in forum history! He has jumped at everyone who's posted anything derogatory about the man formerly known as "Two Carry Perry."

DPM can "pong" himself just about anything.

/me does his very best secondbase impersonation.

I have no idea what you said there dude, but I love your avatar and sig surfboard. I wish I had one of those when I lived in California!

  Do you really have to start a whole thread just for a pissing contest.

He doesn't have to, it just comes naturally to ol' Pushy! He doesn't seem to mind though. Resilient little bastard he is!

[HairOnFire]

DPM can "pong" himself just about anything.

/me does his very best secondbase impersonation.

I have no idea what you said there dude.....

H.B. is referring to Joe Pong, a caustic Huddles poster who has claimed to be right about everything so often that other posters created a Pong Hall of Shame containing quotes & predictions of Pongs that were later disproven. Of course that proof has little impact on Pong, who rather predictably shifts his stance and claims that he was misquoted or more often...was somehow right all along. Sorta like Pushy calling Perry a pick that should have been skipped altogether but has now morphed into a favorite. Add Madieu Williams to the list too, as a player Pushy once claimed he wasn't worth his draft spot but is now a favorite. So why should anyone think things would have played out differently with Antaaj Hawthorne?

Regardless, there's something twisted in posters like Pushy and Pong that makes them start threads where they say...."Look at me, I was right about something."

Hooray. (shrug)

[DontPushMe]

Sorta like Pushy calling Perry a pick that should have been skipped altogether but has now morphed into a favorite. Add Madieu Williams to the list too, as a player Pushy once claimed he wasn't worth his draft spot but is now a favorite. So why should anyone think things would have played out differently with Antaaj Hawthorne?

I never said that about Perry, HERE are my posts about that pick on the huddles:

http://www.footballhuddles.com/vbulletin/s...7818#post187818

Time: 4:38, the day of the draft, aka less than 30 mins after the pick was made.

post:

I like the pick.

Yeah, dontpushme likes it, werid huh?

I had perry rated the 2nd best runningback. The only problem with this pick in my mind, is that i had him 2nd to Kevin Jones, who was available when we took perry.

You guys have to understand, Perry will be a great compliment to rudi, hes as close to a sure thing as runningbacks at the end of the 1st round go. Tenessee would have taken Perry had we tried to move down.

http://www.footballhuddles.com/vbulletin/s...7829#post187829

My other post, at 4:47 same day

yup, another reason why i love the pick

^^ refering to how picking Perry should end any speculation that a scrub like Skip Hicks, who bengal fans thought was great after his NFLE trip, would make our team. I was very vocal in saying he wont make our team, and once again, I was right, as with almost everything else.

I will admit fault on the Madieu Williams pick, I didnt think he'd be as good as he is, but do you think im upset that I was wrong there? Get a life man, I was by far in the majority in disliking the pick, but it worked out for us, move on. I'm happy that I was wrong about Madieu williams.

Antajj Hawthorne would have worked out differently because he sucks. We would of cut him in the preseason just like the Raiders did. He wouldnt of magically become better because he was here.

[HairOnFire]

The fact that you can show posts where you praise the pick while at the same time writing that the selection of Perry was a pick the Bengals should have skipped is pure Pushy. After all, if you take both sides on any issue it's not much of a trick to claim that you were right all along.

That said, admitting you were wrong about Williams is a step in the right direction....especially in a thread where you're attempting to pat yourself on the back about Hawthorne. Then again, why did you bother starting this thread? Is your need to bait other posters so great that you couldn't resist?

[walshfan]

Ill admit that I thought Hawthorne was going to be a good pick ... all the profiles I read on him seemed to indicate that he was going to be a run stopping force...

His combine effort was terrible.. his lackluster effort of getting in shape plus the maijuana issue diminished him to a free agent... he's on the practice squad of Oakland now.. hopefully the light went on that the NFL is not college and he's going to have to WORK hard to make the roster from now on....