Chris Henry & Matt Schobel

[blueridge]

The Bengals' receiving corps is deep and talented. However, I think Chris Henry could turn out to be the best of the lot. Aside from his great physical skills, he has a tremendous desire to make plays. I mean big plays. He's like Chad in that both will really go after the ball. Henry also appears to be a good guy despite his dramatic onfield blow-ups in college. Anyway, he was just a kid. If Chris Henry was just some incorrigibly wild nutcase, Marvin Lewis would not have drafted him. As for Matt Schobel, I think he needs to be given more of a chance to succeed. He's still learning the position of tight end. He is a talented pass-catcher and can be another real offensive weapon, as evidenced by his 70+ yard TD against the Cowboys last season and his clutch TD catch to beat the Steelers two years ago. But he really needs to step it up a pace this season.

[thefrazz]

As for Matt Schobel, I think he needs to be given more of a chance to succeed. He's still learning the position of tight end. He is a talented pass-catcher and can be another real offensive weapon, as evidenced by his 70+ yard TD against the Cowboys last season and his clutch TD catch to beat the Steelers two years ago. But he really needs to step it up a pace this season.

Good lord man! How many years does it take to learn to be a TE? We going to give DP 3 years to learn how to be a LB?

Granted he has come up with some clutch plays, but he has had many clutch drops and clutch missed blocks and clutch bad routes to over shadow them!

I'm waiting for us to implement an offence where the TE is used WHEN we get one that can produce consistently

[blueridge]

You're way too hard on Schobel. The guy has undeniable ability and has made big plays. And it does often take a guy several years to become proficient at a new position,especially a skill position. You mention all of the "clutch" catches he has missed. Name one. When did he ever drop a pass that cost us a game? I know for a fact he caught at least one game winner. Remember? Against the Steelers at Pittsburgh and with only 18 seconds left in the game. Admittedly, Schobel is not a very proficient blocker. Big deal. I want him to catch passes. If we need another lineman in a short yardage situation we have Reggie Kelly. Schobel is a former QB trying to make the transition to TE in the NFL. You try it.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

You're way too hard on Schobel. The guy has undeniable ability and has made big plays. And it does often take a guy several years to become proficient at a new position,especially a skill position.

So, are you saying Schobel wasn't a freakin tight end during his college career and thus should be considered a project guy instead of a real tight end?

He makes 1 big play per game, MAX. He MISSES 1 EASY play per quarter, minimum.

[Stripes]

You're way too hard on Schobel. The guy has undeniable ability and has made big plays. And it does often take a guy several years to become proficient at a new position,especially a skill position. You mention all of the "clutch" catches he has missed. Name one. When did he ever drop a pass that cost us a game? I know for a fact he caught at least one game winner. Remember? Against the Steelers at Pittsburgh and with only 18 seconds left in the game. Admittedly, Schobel is not a very proficient blocker. Big deal. I want him to catch passes. If we need another lineman in a short yardage situation we have Reggie Kelly. Schobel is a former QB trying to make the transition to TE in the NFL. You try it.

I can name 10 tackles Schobel missed last year that cost us a game. Remember Troy Polomalu? Schobel drops passes all the time, it matters not whether or not those drops came at clutch times, a drop is a drop. I think he's had enough time to get aquainted with the new postion, and we've seen his prodction about as high as it will ever be.

[thefrazz]

Every dropped pass, missed route, etc has the potential to cost the game. I also believe I stand corrected but I think he has been in the system for what? 4 years plus? I know I have watched him drop 3rd down passes more times then I care to remember...let alone want to repeat the date, time and opponent of which it occurred.

I would just rather be rid of Schobel and Kelley, draft/acquire a -talented- TE and keep Stewart as the back-up/lead blocking TE.

[thefrazz]

I can name 10 tackles Schobel missed last year that cost us a game.

I know you were meaning "passes"

:player:

[Stripes]

I can name 10 tackles Schobel missed last year that cost us a game.

I know you were meaning "passes"

:player:

Nope, I did mean tackles. Troy Polomalu picked off Carson Palmer late in the game at Pittsburgh, and Schobel mistackled him a good ten times before he ended up in the end zone.

[thefrazz]

AHA!

Ok...

*open mouth, insert foot*

[Stripes]

AHA!

Ok...

*open mouth, insert foot*

Heh, no worries cowboy. It's easy to tell why you'd think I mistyped that.

[blueridge]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned? Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory. Whatever.

[Stripes]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned? Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory. Whatever.

Take it easy slappy. I was commenting on the Polomalu play as a sour Schobel hater. Is that what you want me to say? Meh. My primary point in my post was his frequent drops. He drops passes, and he is very inconsistent week by week.

By the way, we can't judge a tight end by one 76 yard catch either. I know that wasn't the basis of your entire post, but nor were my comments on tackling.

Calm down.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Are you Schobel's sister or something? A pass catching TE should be able to, I don't know, catch?

[blueridge]

You're way too hard on Schobel. The guy has undeniable ability and has made big plays. And it does often take a guy several years to become proficient at a new position,especially a skill position.

So, are you saying Schobel wasn't a freakin tight end during his college career and thus should be considered a project guy instead of a real tight end?

He makes 1 big play per game, MAX. He MISSES 1 EASY play per quarter, minimum.

Schobel was converted to a tight end during his career at TCU and had little experience when he was drafted. No, he should not be considered a "project"; he has had three years to establish himself in the NFL. The time has come for him to make good on his promise. At any rate, he is the best receiving tight end they have, and he is better than any cast-off that might show up on the waiver wire.

[thefrazz]

At any rate, he is the best receiving tight end they have, and he is better than any cast-off that might show up on the waiver wire.

That, my friend, is a matter of opinion.

I think they all suck as pass catching TE's...and Stewart is the best blocker IMO.

[Stripes]

You're way too hard on Schobel. The guy has undeniable ability and has made big plays. And it does often take a guy several years to become proficient at a new position,especially a skill position.

So, are you saying Schobel wasn't a freakin tight end during his college career and thus should be considered a project guy instead of a real tight end?

He makes 1 big play per game, MAX. He MISSES 1 EASY play per quarter, minimum.

Schobel was converted to a tight end during his career at TCU and had little experience when he was drafted. No, he should not be considered a "project"; he has had three years to establish himself in the NFL. The time has come for him to make good on his promise. At any rate, he is the best receiving tight end they have, and he is better than any cast-off that might show up on the waiver wire.

I am fine with the trio of TE's we have now, never denied that. Stewart and Kelly are excellent blockers. All I'm saying is that I doubt we'll see any biggers years from Schobel than we did last year. Hope he proves me wrong of course.

[blueridge]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Are you Schobel's sister or something? A pass catching TE should be able to, I don't know, catch?

So its true! Chimpanzees now have access to computers!

[Stripes]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Are you Schobel's sister or something? A pass catching TE should be able to, I don't know, catch?

So its true! Chimpanzees now have access to computers!

Hopefully those chimps will overtake the Nascar trolls.

[blueridge]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Take it easy slappy. I was commenting on the Polomalu play as a sour Schobel hater. Is that what you want me to say? Meh. My primary point in my post was his frequent drops. He drops passes, and he is very inconsistent week by week.

By the way, we can't judge a tight end by one 76 yard catch either. I know that wasn't the basis of your entire post, but nor were my comments on tackling.

Calm down.

Your inane comment on tackling WAS your entire post. Congratulations.

[Stripes]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Take it easy slappy. I was commenting on the Polomalu play as a sour Schobel hater. Is that what you want me to say? Meh. My primary point in my post was his frequent drops. He drops passes, and he is very inconsistent week by week.

By the way, we can't judge a tight end by one 76 yard catch either. I know that wasn't the basis of your entire post, but nor were my comments on tackling.

Calm down.

Your inane comment on tackling WAS your entire post. Congratulations.

If you read my post, only the first sentence was devoted to that.

Do you know what the word inane means? Find out before you use it anymore.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Are you Schobel's sister or something? A pass catching TE should be able to, I don't know, catch?

So its true! Chimpanzees now have access to computers!

Chimp or no, at least I'm not jocking "butterfingers" Schobel.

[Kazkal]

Chad makes plenty of drops himself and he's a top 5WR in the nfl,

Schobels stats will go up this year with carsons yards and TD's you'll see!?!?!?!?!

[Ox]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Take it easy slappy. I was commenting on the Polomalu play as a sour Schobel hater. Is that what you want me to say? Meh. My primary point in my post was his frequent drops. He drops passes, and he is very inconsistent week by week.

By the way, we can't judge a tight end by one 76 yard catch either. I know that wasn't the basis of your entire post, but nor were my comments on tackling.

Calm down.

Your inane comment on tackling WAS your entire post. Congratulations.

If you read my post, only the first sentence was devoted to that.

Do you know what the word inane means? Find out before you use it anymore.

I do not think that word means what you think it means

[redsfan2]

So,TD Bengal, let me get this straight. Schobel sucks as a tight end because he did not tackle Troy Polamalu on that play you mentioned?  Are tight ends supposed to be judged on their TACKLING ability? And did  Schobel really cost the Bengals that game because he did not tackle the Steeler safety? If I recall, the Steelers already had the lead when Palmer threw that pick. On the other hand, Schobel's catch in Pittsburgh the year before with time running out most certainly provided the winning points in that thrilling come-from-behind victory.    Whatever.

Take it easy slappy. I was commenting on the Polomalu play as a sour Schobel hater. Is that what you want me to say? Meh. My primary point in my post was his frequent drops. He drops passes, and he is very inconsistent week by week.

By the way, we can't judge a tight end by one 76 yard catch either. I know that wasn't the basis of your entire post, but nor were my comments on tackling.

Calm down.

Your inane comment on tackling WAS your entire post. Congratulations.

If you read my post, only the first sentence was devoted to that.

Do you know what the word inane means? Find out before you use it anymore.

I do not think that word means what you think it means

Inane .... It means .... The same as

As in the following sentsnce...

Inane no diffrent den dat othern.

I'm always here to help.

[Stripes]

Inane .... It means .... The same as

As in the following sentsnce...

Inane no diffrent den dat othern.

I'm always here to help.

Heh, thanks pal.

Webster would be proud.