rob_justdmb Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Everybody's acting like a 6th round is going to step in and start. There is nowhere on our team that a 6th round pick will start. Get off the ledges already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Mel seems to love our draft so far. I was shaking my head on that one too. CJ mosley was right there. He's a Chris henry clone too, great talent with off the field problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted April 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 They have clearly made the decision that the DO NOT need a DT or a S. (CJ Mosely went the pick after).I'm going to Trust marvin, but Tab Perry's scouting report is uninspiring:Strengths: Has a lot of experience...Has good size and a big frame...Is physical and tough...Knows how to use his body...Is a good athlete...Has decent hands...Isn't afraid to go over the middle.Weaknesses: Did not play in 2003 due to academic troubles...Not real fast or quick...Isn't a deep threat and won't do much after the catch...Needs to do a better job of concentrating...Technique needs to be refined.Notes: Could develop into a good possession receiver in the NFL...Will never be a star but has the size and athleticism to make it and play a role for some team.nfldraftcountdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan33 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Everybody's acting like a 6th round is going to step in and start. There is nowhere on our team that a 6th round pick will start. Get off the ledges already... But still, there is good talent left like Butler from GT and Shazor from Michigan. And we take a receiver? C'mon now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hugg Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 "Also has experience and has been very productive as a kickoff return specialist at the collegiate level. ""has very good size, shows some big play ability as a sideline route runner, and also was an extremely productive kickoff return specialist at the college level."ESPN.comOur kickoff return has left a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 what about brimmer???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_justdmb Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Marvin has always been a "best player available" type guy. I've heard him say it so many times over the last 2 1/2 years. None of this should've been a surprise to anyone. It's obvious they have not been happy with Kelley Washington, he was invisible for the first 9 games, that includes 8 games without Peter Warrick. So if they don't trust Washington and Warrick is a question mark, which he is, 2 WRs fill the roles of 2 WRs. We had Maurice Mann on the practice squad as well last year untiul he was picked up by Jacksonville. He's not doing anything that simple thought and lack of overreaction wouldn't be able to figure out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Everybody's acting like a 6th round is going to step in and start. There is nowhere on our team that a 6th round pick will start. Get off the ledges already...What a ridiculous/pathetic commentOf course a 6th rounder is not expected to startBut guess whatHe's expected to make the team and provide depthHow many WRs do we have now? is it in the double digits yet?This guy will probably not even make the practive squad becase we have TOO MANY WRsWR is not an area of need, particularly after the Chris Henry pick. S and DL and TE are much, much greater needs. This was like just passing on this pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 A draft that started out so promising is turning out to be terrible. Um, chill out?ML said before the draft that we are past the time that every pick is a certainty to make the club. They are drafting guys to push those already here. IF these last few are good enough, they will stick. If not, they won't.I will say this, the coaching staff has to be a LOT unhappier with Washington than any of us have guessed, because clearly one of the spots being pushed is his.As for the safeties, come on guys, if they can't run, they can't play in the NFL successfully. It's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Perry is a talented receiver, and he can return kicks. We do have a lot of wideouts on the team right now. If we keep Chad Johnson, TJ, Washington, and Henry, we only have room for one or two more. Is Warrick good as gone? What about all those practice squad guys - Milons, Broussard, etc. Warrick really does look like the odd man out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 I would not be surprised if Washington was cut or traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indycat Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 They have clearly made the decision that the DO NOT need a DT or a S. (CJ Mosely went the pick after).I'm going to Trust marvin, but Tab Perry's scouting report is uninspiring:Strengths: Has a lot of experience...Has good size and a big frame...Is physical and tough...Knows how to use his body...Is a good athlete...Has decent hands...Isn't afraid to go over the middle.Weaknesses: Did not play in 2003 due to academic troubles...Not real fast or quick...Isn't a deep threat and won't do much after the catch...Needs to do a better job of concentrating...Technique needs to be refined.Notes: Could develop into a good possession receiver in the NFL...Will never be a star but has the size and athleticism to make it and play a role for some team.nfldraftcountdown Could develop into a good possession receiver in the NFLThis is an area of need on our team.Hard to believe this guy is the solution though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kline Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 I'm starting to get the feeling that we might actually trade away for a safety or DT because of the way we're stacking our receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_justdmb Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Everybody's acting like a 6th round is going to step in and start. There is nowhere on our team that a 6th round pick will start. Get off the ledges already...What a ridiculous/pathetic comment Ridiculous and pathetic is the fact that you think you know more than our coaches.WR is obviously a position they feel they need more depth at, and they know more than me, and a hell of a lot more than you. You don't know what their plans are. It is 100% true that we need a huge upgrade in kickoff returns, this pick could take care of that. It's a role currently filled by Cliff Russell. They might feel this is an upgrade over Russell, because the limited time that used Russell as a WR, was completely 100% unsuccessful. Why don't you take more than 1 second from the time a name announced before you start platforming on the message board to actually think about what a player's best facets are and see they fit in with this team before you tear apart me and our coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnip Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Just make a good pick. These last two, especially the last one, have been less then excitable. I don't really think drafting two "future backups" (per ESPN) is a good idea. I have a feeling the receiver was picked for special teams help primarily. We took our risks on future starters in the first rounds. Now we're drafting for depth. I'd rather have our depth coming from the later rounds, usually these are the type of players we don't want to rely on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Everybody's acting like a 6th round is going to step in and start. There is nowhere on our team that a 6th round pick will start. Get off the ledges already...What a ridiculous/pathetic comment Ridiculous and pathetic is the fact that you think you know more than our coaches.WR is obviously a position they feel they need more depth at, and they know more than me, and a hell of a lot more than you. You don't know what their plans are. It is 100% true that we need a huge upgrade in kickoff returns, this pick could take care of that. It's a role currently filled by Cliff Russell. They might feel this is an upgrade over Russell, because the limited time that used Russell as a WR, was completely 100% unsuccessful. Why don't you take more than 1 second from the time a name announced before you start platforming on the message board to actually think about what a player's best facets are and see they fit in with this team before you tear apart me and our coaches. What he said. A little chillin' is in order, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Whatever.The fact that ya'all are here suggests you are interested in the Bengals draft. The fact that you are here in this particular thread TODAY suggests you are interested in their late round picks. See, all the early picks were done yesterday.That said, making a comment that runs along the line of "it doesn't matter, it's a 6th round pick" is asking for trouble. Do you have any idea what round Terrell Davis was taken in? How about a quarterback you might have heard of named Tom Brady?It's important that a team make the best use they can of their picks, all their picks, even their late round picks. A late round pick shoud at least have a good chance to make a team. We have a dozen or so WRs. What chance does he have to make the team? Very little.So no, thank you, no chilling for me. I expect good picks each and every round from the Bengals, and they have sorely disappointed me -- and I am not alone in this -- with picks 5 and 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_justdmb Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Did you not read my post? With him being an incredible kick returner, and Cliff Russell accounting for 0% offense, this is an upgrade over Cliff Russell. He will most likely take his spot and make the team. What does Cliff Russell better than Tab Perry? It's certainly not catch the ball... Apparently, it's not return the kick either. What makes you think CR will stick it out over Perry? Even if he does and beats him in camp, it's worth using a 6th round pick to take a chance on adding 5 yards per return. If he catches 20 passes this year on top of it, it's all gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Here are statistics for last year's sixth round pick, Greg Brooks.Year Team G Total Tckl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def 2004 Cincinnati Bengals 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ah yes, it is certainly difficult to accumulate stats when you are out injured all year. I suppose you have a point, even if I don't see it. Is it that 6th round picks never contribute?If that's your point, we can all start laughing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 If you've been listening to anything NFL analysts have ever said, its that this game is all about field position. And if Marvin thinks that Tab Perry will help improve the field position of this team, then I agree. And if Perry doesn't make the team, atleast he will push someone else to improve and either way, he will improve an aspect of this team that was a weak point last year.Also, maybe Marvin doesn't see anyone available that will push at another position, so I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Ah yes, it is certainly difficult to accumulate stats when you are out injured all year. I suppose you have a point, even if I don't see it. Is it that 6th round picks never contribute?If that's your point, we can all start laughing now. I'm saying don't get excited about late round draft choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 There are a lot of 6 and 7th rounders who come in and start right away. One in particular is Mike Green from Chicago. He was the last pick in the entire draft, and was never expected to make the team. But he filled in and now is one of the up and rising safeties in the league. SO you must draft every pick like they were starters. Cause you never know what will happen to the starter in front of that rookie and you will have to plug that rookie into starting mode. It is key that you draft for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Should I get excited about 1rst round choices?If so, tell me what the stats would be for a first round pick who gets injured in preseason and is out all year.....Also, can you tell me if you like the following 6th round picks? Do you consider them to have been productive football players? Players people have been or were excited about?http://www.drafthistory.com/years/2000.htmlscroll down to pick 199, round 6http://www.drafthistory.com/years/1995.htmlscroll down to pick 196, round 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 There are far more sixth round guys who go on to do nothing than those that become rising stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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