Bengals mock draft

[walshfan]

Draft will be determined on the health of Webster, Warrick and how they feel about Kim Herring starting next season......

1. Matt Roth DE ( prototypical size for a DE, non stop motor, makes plays)

2. Chris Spencer C ( solid center for the future wont be there in third round)

3. James Butler S ( has all the tools to be a good one..can play eithe saftey position lilke Williams )

4. Alfred Fincher MLB ( steal of the draft imo..)

last 3 picks BPO ...

[Bobcat Bengal]

I'd rather have Shaun Cody after watching him on NFL network.

Coach Lewis would have to appreciate his versatility, and plus, when have we gone wrong with USC players?

after the second round, its anybody's guess.

[BengalszoneBilly]

I'd rather have Shaun Cody after watching him on NFL network.

Coach Lewis would have to appreciate his versatility, and plus, when have we gone wrong with USC players?

Word! :player:

[vman1186]

1.17 = Trade with Eagles for 1.31 and 2.4 (unless Marcus Spears is here)

1.31 = C/G David Bass (low risk, high reward, high need)

2.4 = OLB Daryl Blaystock (gives the Bengals the pass rusher they need; needs time to develop into all around ‘backer, but can contribute immediately as a situational player; worth it because have an extra pick; a slight value pick too)

2.17 = DT Antaj Hawthorn / Luis Castillo (in that order)

3.17 = S James Butler (can tackle and cover; may put secondary over the top)

4.17 = MLB Alfred Fincher (stock on the rise; have only heard good things; solid player; Bengals need depth here; diff. to predict where will go; a sleeperish prospect – esp. if falls to here)

5.17 = WR Jerome Mathis (a sleeper; has great speed; a punt returner at the very least; could be the deep threat Bengals desire)

6.17 = RB Anthony Davis (change of pace back to complement Johnson; fast; may be a steal if he can stay healthy)

7.17 = TE Jerome Collins (very raw, but has awesome upside)

7. 25(compensatory?) = OT Joe Berger (a last second stab at drafting an OT in prep. for FA next year; does have potential if gets stronger)

[middy19]

6.17 = RB Anthony Davis (change of pace back to complement Johnson; fast; may be a steal if he can stay healthy)

What happened to Perry?

[TJJackson]

Castillo is a much, much MUCH better prospect than Hawthorne. Hawthorne is falling on draft boards and castillo is rising for god reasons :-)

[schweinhart]

6.17 = RB Anthony Davis (change of pace back to complement Johnson; fast; may be a steal if he can stay healthy)

What happened to Perry?

Not a bad idea to grab a short pounder, Rudi protype like Davis.

A pick like him wouldn't affect Perry's status on the field (if he ever gets on the field) because of Perry's receiving skills. Perry would pretty much be what he is now -- Kenny Watson's backup -- until Perry can win the 3rd down RB job or Watson gets an offer sheet from another team before the RFA deadline a week before the draft that the Bengals don't match.

[Indycat]

So many players ... so few picks

Round 1 S - Thomas Davis, TE - Heath Miller, DE - David Pollack

Round 2 LB - Barrett Ruud, C - David Baas, DT - Mike Patterson, TE - Alex Smith

Round 3 C - Chris Spencer, S - Josh Bullocks, DT - Luis Castillo

Round 4 TE - Joel Dreessen, LB - Marcus Lawrence, S - Sean Considine

Round 5 LB - Robert McCune, WR - J.R. Russell, DT - Jason Jefferson

Round 6 WR - Courtney Roby, LB - James Kinney, TE - Alex Holmes

Round 7 S - Kerry Rhodes, RB - Lionel Gates, WR - Brandon Jones

[schweinhart]

With Bryan Robinson in stripes and Rudi sown up w/ a long-term deal. Here's some wishful thinking.

1. Thomas Davis SS/LB

2. Darryl Blackstock LB

3. Jonathan Babineaux DE/DT

4. Scott Mrzuckowski C

5. Calvin Armstrong LT

6. Steve Savoy WR

7. Brandon Jacobs FB/TE

It now looks very likely that the Bengals take Chris Spencer at #48. Plus, the comp picks are in.

Time to reload

1. Thomas Davis SS/LB

2. Chris Spencer C/G

3. Jonathan Babineaux DE/DT

4. Alfred Fincher MLB

5. Calvin Armstrong LT

6. Brandon Jacobs RB/TE

7. Fred Amey WR

[HairOnFire]

3. Jonathan Babineaux DE/DT

I heard an interesting bit of news about Babineaux today while watching Playbook. According to Mike Mayoch scouts at the combine were so impressed by his speed and change of direction skills that he was the only DT prospect asked to participate in pass coverage drills with the LB's. I'm guessing that concerns about Babineaux being undersized were also expressed. Regardless, the results were said to be so promising that most scouts are now convinced that Babineaux's future in the NFL is at DE.

[schweinhart]

3. Jonathan Babineaux DE/DT

I heard an interesting bit of news about Babineaux today while watching Playbook. According to Mike Mayoch scouts at the combine were so impressed by his speed and change of direction skills that he was the only DT prospect asked to participate in pass coverage drills with the LB's. I'm guessing that concerns about Babineaux being undersized were also expressed. Regardless, the results were said to be so promising that most scouts are now convinced that Babineaux's future in the NFL is at DE.

Babineaux looked real agile in those drills. The DE who looked the best doing the LB drills IMO was Vincent Burns from Kentucky. He should easily transition to LB in a 3-4.

I doubt anyone projects Babineaux to play LB but that kind of agility he demonstrated makes him a great zone blitz DE where he can effectively drop back in short area coverage.

Babineaux is about the size of Big Duane but a little more squat. He's faster than Big Duane, which makes Babineaux an ideal fit to replace Duane when his contract is up. As long as the Bengals continue to stunt on D w/ regularity, a DE/DT tweener will be on the roster. Babineaux adds great interior speed, technique, and strength to fit this bill, not to forget the improved contain at DEhe adds.

[DuffMan]

Not that it means much but here's my ideal/possible mock for the bengals barring any trading down:

1) Thomas Davis SS/LB Georgia (sub 4.5 40s on his pro day make him a valuable weapon at SS or LB)

2) Alex Smith TE Stanford (fills a need and provides good value, one of the few balanced TEs this year and after him the TE class really drops off)

3) Jason Brown C UNC or Ben Wilkerson C LSU (center must be addressed at some point, preferably on the 1st day)

4) Anthony Bryant DT Alabama or Atiyyah Ellison DT Missouri (Bryant would provide a run stopping presense, Ellison would provide versatility. Even with the Robinson signing some depth could only help on the d-line)

5) James Kinney LB Missouri (even though linebacker might not be a pressing need Kinney is extremely gifted athletically and has good potential, if nothing else a speedy special teams addition)

6) Khari Long DE/OLB Baylor (the Hunley presense at Baylor's pro day is the only reason why Long specifically is here. Trent Cole, Jonathan Goddard, or Andre Frazier are all possible canidates. Any pass rushing presense would be a welcome addition, whether it be at DE or OLB. See the Kinney comment above and replace Kinney with Long)

7) Tony Brown WR Tennessee (speedy reciever with size and potential, RB could also be a possibility, along with every other postition in football cuse it's the 7th freaking round)

You may be questioning the fact that this mock could have the Bengals adding 3 new linebackers, but with the inuries to Webster and Abdullah, along with aging Hardy I wouldn't find that all too suprising/impractacle.

[HairOnFire]

I doubt anyone projects Babineaux to play LB but that kind of agility he demonstrated makes him a great zone blitz DE where he can effectively drop back in short area coverage.

Babineaux is about the size of Big Duane but a little more squat. He's faster than Big Duane, which makes Babineaux an ideal fit to replace Duane when his contract is up.

Mayoch actually claimed that several teams consider Babineaux an option at OLB...an idea that seemed so ridiculous to me that I didn't bother mentioning it earlier. But there it is.

[HoTbOy]

As they try to keep the nucleus of a young, promising offense together, the Bengals’ two biggest free-agent signings have been their own: RB Rudi Johnson (five years, $26 million) and WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh (four years, $13.5 million). Both are key cogs in an offense that has the potential to be dominant at times, especially if QB Carson Palmer continues to progress. While the team was proactive in retaining Johnson and Houshmandzadeh, it has not elected to be aggressive in seeking defensive help in free agency. The Bengals did add DT Bryan Robinson, who they believe will help their run defense. According to a source with knowledge of the situation, head coach Marvin Lewis is confident defensive help is already on the roster, and he hopes the team’s second-year defenders will be able to raise their level of play. The Bengals got significant contributions from 2004 rookies S Madieu Williams, LB Landon Johnson and CB Keiwan Ratliff. Lewis is also hoping for more out of DT Matthias Askew, who saw limited action as a rookie.

Past Cincinnati WWHI > With Marvin thinking that most of the help we need is already on the team who knows who we will draft..at 1 point I thought D but with Warrick not producing a WR might be in the cards..

[schweinhart]

I doubt anyone projects Babineaux to play LB but that kind of agility he demonstrated makes him a great zone blitz DE where he can effectively drop back in short area coverage.

Babineaux is about the size of Big Duane but a little more squat. He's faster than Big Duane, which makes Babineaux an ideal fit to replace Duane when his contract is up.

Mayoch actually claimed that several teams consider Babineaux an option at OLB...an idea that seemed so ridiculous to me that I didn't bother mentioning it earlier. But there it is.

Maybe 3-4 teams will consider Babineaux standing up. The fact that he was asked to do the LB drills is a credit to how good an athlete he is.

He'd make the most sense as a 3-4 DE. He's proly a 2nd rder but maybe his leg break problems in the past slide him to the 3rd. He hustles and has the talent to produce whatever postion he plays (and yes he could even be the back-up FB :player: )

[stuck]

Draft will be determined on the health of Webster, Warrick and how they feel about Kim Herring starting next season......

1. Matt Roth DE ( prototypical size for a DE, non stop motor, makes plays)

2. Chris Spencer C ( solid center for the future wont be there in third round)

3. James Butler S ( has all the tools to be a good one..can play eithe saftey position lilke Williams )

4. Alfred Fincher MLB ( steal of the draft imo..)

last 3 picks BPO ...

I like UConn's Fincher, too.

Boomer Grigsby of Ill. State could work out, but I think he will go in the 3rd or late in the 2nd.

[cover2]

Butler would be a nice addition.

[TJJackson]

My new 7 round optimal Bengals Draft

Emphasis on speed, character, smarts, and production as much as possible, with emphasis on superior athletes with less experience in later rounds, while addressing team needs

r1(17) DE David Pollack 6'2 270 4.79 Georgia http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...vidpollack.html

r2(48) OC Chris Spencer 6'3 305 5.18 Mississippi http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...risspencer.html

r3(83) S Josh Bullocks 6'0 210 4.46 Nebraska http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...shbullocks.html

r4 WR Courtney Roby 6'0 189 4.39 Indiana http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...urtneyroby.html

or DT Sione Pouha 6'3 325 5.06 Utah http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...sionepouha.html

r5 OG CJ Brooks 6'5 310 5.10 Maryland http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...g/cjbrooks.html

r6 LB James Kinney 6'0 244 4.63 Missouri http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...ameskinney.html

r7 TE Adam Bergen 6'4 265 4.65 Lehigh http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...adambergen.html

[Bobcat Bengal]

Yo TJ, that's alright right there.

I'd be happy with that draft.

[BengalPappaw]

My new 7 round optimal Bengals Draft

Emphasis on speed, character, smarts, and production as much as possible, with emphasis on superior athletes with less experience in later rounds, while addressing team needs

r1(17) DE David Pollack 6'2 270 4.79 Georgia http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...vidpollack.html

r2(48) OC Chris Spencer 6'3 305 5.18 Mississippi http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...risspencer.html

r3(83) S Josh Bullocks 6'0 210 4.46 Nebraska http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...shbullocks.html

r4 WR Courtney Roby 6'0 189 4.39 Indiana http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...urtneyroby.html

or DT Sione Pouha 6'3 325 5.06 Utah http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...sionepouha.html

r5 OG CJ Brooks 6'5 310 5.10 Maryland http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...g/cjbrooks.html

r6 LB James Kinney 6'0 244 4.63 Missouri http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...ameskinney.html

r7 TE Adam Bergen 6'4 265 4.65 Lehigh http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...adambergen.html

You've got my vote -- I really like the first two picks!!!

[Whur CHad At?]

TJ and his 40 times...thats all he cares about.

Half of those guys won't do s**t in the NFL and waste of our draft picks. But according to TJ a fast 40 means they are the best player ever.

I only agree on round 1, i don't think spencer will be there for #2. Bengal's said they will draft a LB 1st or second. But all the LB's suck cuz they 4.6 40 times. OMG they suck!!!@!

[TJJackson]

Without intending to reply to anyone in particular, but instead simply adding the following statement to my 7 pick post above:

I prefer to leave it to other post writers on these forums to promote the early round selection of injury prone and inexperienced players with considerable character issues.

But that's just me.

[Whur CHad At?]

cough:

Chris Spencer Barely 1year expeirence

Channing Crowder 2 year experience. Started Freshman and Sophmore years.

Who has more expiernece now ?

[cover2]

Those are damn nice picks beyond their 40 times. It would be a super draft to have those guys. Good job TJ!

[Indycat]

Crowder was only a sophomore but he is eligible for the 2005 draft because he took a year off after graduating from high school to rehabilitate a knee injury

Crowder played in nine games and he has had trouble staying healthy -- knee injury in high school and arch injury that cost him playing time in 2004.

He also has had problems staying out of trouble off of the field served one-game suspensions in season openers of the 2003 and 2004 seasons due to separate altercations outside of a Gainesville night club

Hmmm.............1st round pick?????