thepudgester Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Lets all just think back to last April for a second, Marvin picked unpredictable (although extremely well)... Perry in the first was regarded as a small reach, Ratliff and Williams were thought to be obtainable in the 3rd, Miller and Johnson both would probably be there when the Bengals picked in the 4th, Geathers wouldve been there in the 5th as would andrews, your probably thinking to yourself where the hell is this guy going with this, well where i'm going is we've got to think who Marvin is gonna want, not us, who fits into the Bengals system, because as he showed last year the guy is unpredictable, so realistically who do you people think Marvin is gonna take in the 1st three rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 i predict he will pick three guys that can play football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalNation1281 Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 I don't care who he takes...I know who I would like for him to take, but I have enough confidence in the coaching staff that I'm not too worried about the draft.Whoever he takes will obviously be who he thinks will make the biggest difference, and i have no problem with that. As long as it's not another RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucktkd Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 I think he will move down and pick up two more picks by the end of the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glnwf Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Well I have faith in Marvin & his staff. I think barring the level of injuries we had last year that no matter who Marvin picks it will be a welcomed addition to the promising team that we already have. The Stentative signing of Rudi, J; Watson; Braham; & the others due FA status was a good move on the Bengals behalf also, and a good sign that they definitely committed to winning. As if it were really needed, but nice to see confirmed. :player: So bring on the draft, :player: Pre camps, I think w'ell have lots to cheer for the coming season :player: :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Perry was a horrible pick. Should always pick a starter in round 1.Trading down was great, but the guy they should have taken was LB K Dansby out of Auburn.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Marvin was on the NFLN's combine show yesterday and said he's looking for "knee benders" who are willing to work and have flexibility and explosion on the lines, at RB, and at LB.This year, I'd say the best available at #17 will be in stripes if there's no trade down and this should be a good thing because it should mean Merriman, Pollack, Thomas Davis, Spears, etc to boost the D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Remove Pollack, add Sean Cody :-)heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Shaun Cody would seem likely to get a look at #17 because he has some versatility as a DE/DT, which ML has sought in Big Duane and Carl Powell and needs to replace because Powell is likely gone for good.But IMO Shaun Cody goes in 2nd 3rd of 1st because Cody's versatility in a 4-3 isn't as impressive as his fit as a DE in a 3-4. That said, I doubt Cody will go before Spears who has the same type of versatility.I like Pollack a lot as a pure DE but he has to convince teams that he can overcome his size, which his track record in college and combine performance in speed agility drills should do. Still, Pollack might slide down to 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 One thing the Combine showed, was how average a corps of DL there is this year.Spears is good, Pollack is good ( probably moving to OLB ) Cody is solid, but guys like C.J. Mosley, Sione Pouha, and Luis Castillo are moving up on them. * Erasmus James was unimpressive in his '40. But he did answer the question how well he moves laterally with his prior knee injuries. Have to think that Travis Johnson is going to get a long hard look at # 17 if he's still available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 One thing the Combine showed, was how average a corps of DL there is this year.Spears is good, Pollack is good ( probably moving to OLB ) Cody is solid, but guys like C.J. Mosley, Sione Pouha, and Luis Castillo are moving up on them. * Erasmus James was unimpressive in his '40. But he did answer the question how well he moves laterally with his prior knee injuries. Have to think that Travis Johnson is going to get a long hard look at # 17 if he's still available. - But to answer the post question...We gotta spend those day one picks on defense. Possibility that we could land a decent center in round 4 as compared to recent workouts.And as for the Shazor train, Josh Bullocks moved ahead of him big time during the combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Travis Johnson - one year wonder, work hard for upcoming contract and signing bonus guy. No thank you.A round 3 center will be top notch - probably Spencer or Wilkerson. Round 4 and beyond the pickings will get very slim. Can't ignore Center again this year. Can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Please people...be enlightened...Hawthorne from Wisconsin will be Marvin's pick come draft day.. He's a legit runstopper.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Take a look at Hawthorne's combine numbers and tell me afterwards you still believe that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 I hear Charles Fisher is available too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalNation1281 Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 One thing the Combine showed, was how average a corps of DL there is this year.Spears is good, Pollack is good ( probably moving to OLB ) Cody is solid, but guys like C.J. Mosley, Sione Pouha, and Luis Castillo are moving up on them. * Erasmus James was unimpressive in his '40. But he did answer the question how well he moves laterally with his prior knee injuries. Have to think that Travis Johnson is going to get a long hard look at # 17 if he's still available. - But to answer the post question...We gotta spend those day one picks on defense. Possibility that we could land a decent center in round 4 as compared to recent workouts.And as for the Shazor train, Josh Bullocks moved ahead of him big time during the combine. Hey, you have your guys, I have mine There are several guys at SS that I would be very happy with (Bullocks, Nicholson, Brimmer, Davis), but I would still like to see Shazor in stripes.He's the guy I'm pimping this year, just as Keiwan was the guy I was pimping last year, and look how that turned out? But I'll be happy as long as they get a good SS who can stop the run, and there are quite a few out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnglsfan26 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Shaun Cody would seem likely to get a look at #17 because he has some versatility as a DE/DT, which ML has sought in Big Duane and Carl Powell and needs to replace because Powell is likely gone for good.But IMO Shaun Cody goes in 2nd 3rd of 1st because Cody's versatility in a 4-3 isn't as impressive as his fit as a DE in a 3-4. That said, I doubt Cody will go before Spears who has the same type of versatility.I like Pollack a lot as a pure DE but he has to convince teams that he can overcome his size, which his track record in college and combine performance in speed agility drills should do. Still, Pollack might slide down to 25. who's to say that CIN might be moving to a 3-4? He used to coach it on the Ravens, and that worked out pretty well for him. Part of the struggles that he's had here on defense is that he is a better 3-4 coach, and the Bengals simply don't have the personnel to make that switch.Drafting a Shaun Cody could really help them out, and would allow them to make the popular fan move of Justin Smith to OLB.I think you guys are on to something with S Cody going to the Bengals at 17.I always smell a rat when I see 47 mocks with the same player going to the same team.Trading down is certainly a possibility, but who will slip that merrits a trade down, and who in the 20's is going to want to trade up? I don't see it happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 But I'll be happy as long as they get a good SS who can stop the run, and there are quite a few out there. I don't mind the strong saftey helping out by stopping a run once in a while, but I would much rather depend on the line/linebackers to do this job right so it doesn't fall to the guys in the defensive backfield to do. That's what's been the problem for too long with the defense as it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Once again.... The Bengals are not moving to the 3-4, they are ONLY going to use it in certain situations. All this per the new D-Coordinator, Bresnahan.WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Once again.... The Bengals are not moving to the 3-4, they are ONLY going to use it in certain situations. All this per the new D-Coordinator, Bresnahan.WHODEY !!! And considering the Bengals present defensive personnel, this is the smart way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Please people...be enlightened...Hawthorne from Wisconsin will be Marvin's pick come draft day.. He's a legit runstopper.. SCOUTING REPORTAnttaj Hawthorne College: Wisconsin Height: 6-3 3/8 Position: Defensive Tackle Weight: 321 Strengths: Has great size and big frame with long arms...Very strong up top...Has a lot of experience...Can be unblockable at times and almost forces offenses to devote two men to him...Can play the run as well as get after the quarterback...Has a good burst and good closing speed...Does a good job shedding blocks...Solid, reliable tackler. Weaknesses: Has an inconsistent motor and can disappear for stretches...Doesn't have elite speed and quickness...Needs to get stronger in his lower half...Needs to get in better shape to play longer stretches...Still relies on his natural talent too much. Notes: Probably a better prospect than Wendell Bryant was coming out of college...Erasmus James stole some of his thunder as a senior, but Hawthorne is still one of the top defensive tackles in this draft. - Scott WrightTJJackson Posted on Mar 7 2005, 07:15 AM Â Take a look at Hawthorne's combine numbers and tell me afterwards you still believe that..... Impressive Combine numbers do not always translate into a great player. There are exceptions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Err, what I meant by that comment is I think this guy is an underachiever and not a top notch DT. His combine numbers were not good, either.I am praying we do NOT choose him (or Travis Johnson) at 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 For the first time EVER I haven't bothered pimping a personal draft day favorite. In fact, there's about a dozen prospects I could be equally happy seeing selected at #17....although only two out of the twelve play offense. But no kidding, my short list is frickin' huge this year. In fact, I'm actually adding players to it instead of cutting it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Err, what I meant by that comment is I think this guy is an underachiever and not a top notch DT. His combine numbers were not good, either.I am praying we do NOT choose him (or Travis Johnson) at 17 I agree that there are better picks at his position at #17. I see guys of his caliber going no higher than the 3rd round, unless someone really starts to reach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I was Hawthorne's Biggest Pimp on these boards up UNTIL his Bowl Game.You have to think that, he would do his best to "Shine" in that Game, knowing that all the scouts would be watching.But he didn't shine ...He looked like "Death-Warmed-Over", he didn't show any "Motor" at all.At this point, I am for just saying no to any DL on the 1st day.But if we were to draft a DT...I would now favor taking a guy like Luis Castillo, in maybe the 3rd round, over taking Hawthorne in a earlier round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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