CTBengalsFan Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Chad Johnson. Talent-wise not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 the two best receviers imo are Carl Pickens and Chad Johnson...Isaac Curtis was a fine receiver but not as good as the beforementioned two.Kuddos to Eddie Brown too.. Loved him when he was here. still he wasnt uite the receiver that Pickens or Johnson are.Oh good lord. Some history, children, the NFL changed rules b/c of how good Isaac Curtis was.Where are the old-timers to help me out here? See previous post on page one.Keep in mind, guys didn't get the ball thrown to them 10 times a game back then. The NFL (especially on PB's teams) was a run first pass second league. Not until the Chargers in the late 70's/early 80's and Walsh's 49ers teams of the 80's did people get pass happy as a rule. Then so many more followed when guys like Marino and Elway came along. Isaac was fun to watch. His numbers do not compare to today's receivers but he can be credited with changing the game. I don't know if guys like Pickens and CJ had that impact in the game itself. Guys get alot of pub for great catches but I've seen Curtis catch balls that looked to be overthrown and snag others out of midair with one hand. Again the publicity generators like ESPN and all of the NFL-realted talk shows just didn't exist back in those days.I have two images of him. One is the way he casually flipped the ball over his shoulder after a TD and the second was a cartoon in one of the Cincy papers back in the day. It is Isaac with his index finger sticking straight out and the ball attached to it as if by magic.Curtis career ranking for BengalsThird in receptions 417First in receiving yardage 7101 yds4th in TD's 53 TDs7th in scoring 318 ptsFirst in average per reception (players over 100 receptions) 17.1 yds/recept.Pro Bowls 4Super Bowls 1Just for the record, here are Lynn Swann's stats.Receptions 336Yardage 5462TD's 51Avg. 16.2 ydsSuper Bowls 4Pro Bowls 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niles Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 the two best receviers imo are Carl Pickens and Chad Johnson...Isaac Curtis was a fine receiver but not as good as the beforementioned two.Kuddos to Eddie Brown too.. Loved him when he was here. still he wasnt uite the receiver that Pickens or Johnson are.Oh good lord. Some history, children, the NFL changed rules b/c of how good Isaac Curtis was.Where are the old-timers to help me out here? I'm not an old timer(only 21), but I do try and follow my team's history. That is why I voted Chad and Isaac. Like I said in my vote I'm not old enough to remember how good he was. All I have are articles and stats to go by. Plus I took era in the factor of my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 the two best receviers imo are Carl Pickens and Chad Johnson...Isaac Curtis was a fine receiver but not as good as the beforementioned two.Kuddos to Eddie Brown too.. Loved him when he was here. still he wasnt uite the receiver that Pickens or Johnson are.Oh good lord. Some history, children, the NFL changed rules b/c of how good Isaac Curtis was.Where are the old-timers to help me out here? the NFL changed the rules....Here's another rule I have my opinion and you have yours which really doesnt mean squat to me... Curtis was a good reciever..He isnt a hall of famer that your leading me to believe so save it for some youngblood that will buy it.. Ive seen them and I believe CJ and Pickens were the best..Leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 the two best receviers imo are Carl Pickens and Chad Johnson...Isaac Curtis was a fine receiver but not as good as the beforementioned two.Kuddos to Eddie Brown too.. Loved him when he was here. still he wasnt uite the receiver that Pickens or Johnson are.Oh good lord. Some history, children, the NFL changed rules b/c of how good Isaac Curtis was.Where are the old-timers to help me out here? the NFL changed the rules....Here's another rule I have my opinion and you have yours which really doesnt mean squat to me... Curtis was a good reciever..He isnt a hall of famer that your leading me to believe so save it for some youngblood that will buy it.. Ive seen them and I believe CJ and Pickens were the best..Leave it at that. Touchy touchy.So, if the poll was, best Bengals receivers you have seen in your lifetime, then I might be inclined to let it go.Just noting, Curtis was phenomenal. He was FAR BETTER than Lynn Swan, for instance, but is screwed the same way Kenny Anderson is, by the HOF voters and their anti-Cincy bias.For all the reason jjak noted on the front and here, please know that Isaac is clearly one of the two best Bengals receivers ever.If Pickens played in Curtis' era, he would have been nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Just noting, Curtis was phenomenal. He was FAR BETTER than Lynn Swan, for instance, but is screwed the same way Kenny Anderson is, by the HOF voters and their anti-Cincy bias. Add Ken Riley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Just noting, Curtis was phenomenal. He was FAR BETTER than Lynn Swan, for instance, but is screwed the same way Kenny Anderson is, by the HOF voters and their anti-Cincy bias.Add Ken Riley. Damn skippy. Him too.It's criminal that Riley is not in the HOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrooks21 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Chad Johnson and Isaac Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Why didn't Danny Farmer make the list? Jeff Query beat him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abqbengal Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Isaac Curtis. It's to bad all the youngsters here couldn't have seen Curtis in person then you'd change your mind. Also the guy was pure class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TippCityRick Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Isaac and Chad . . . hands down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Isaac and Chad . . . hands down! I gotta concur with this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FonzieDog Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I'm going to have a tough time with this one. It is tough to deny Chad, Isaac, or Carl. Carl sure seemed like a prick but he sure could snag balls out of the air. Even though he was very prolific when he was with the Bengals I have to question why his career crashed to a halt after he left Cincy. Chad has got the team attitude, skills, and work ethic and will most likely be the undisputed best Bengals WR ever given his current path and momentum. I'm not old enough to have ever seen Isaac play. I have only seen highlights and read accounts so I have to defer to my older Bengal brethren to appreciate his contributions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denverbengal Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Isaac and Chad . . . hands down!I gotta concur with this post.I'll add my concurrence as well. Pickens was good, and I loved Eddie Brown, but Isaac and Chad are by far the most talented Bengals receivers of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I love CJ to death, but how can you put him in "Bengals all time reciever" category with only two good years under his belt. I would love to vote for him, but I need a couple more seeasons to validate All TIme Bengal status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_justdmb Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I'm sorry guys, I said it in the running back thread and I'll say it now. This is not a poll for best Wide Receiver. It's a poll for the All-Time Team. Carl Pickens is the first one I throw out. TEAM is one the words. That means you have to put teammate and team player in. If this were a real poll to honor our All-Time at halftime of next October's Monday night home game vs. Peyton Manning, would you want Carl Pickens representing us on national TV on the All-Time Bengal team? f**k that guy. Plus he stiffs the pizza man. Seriously. How can you live in a phat house in Rollman, have that much money and stiff the pizza man.Now the other thing is Cris Collinsworth. He did have a deal in place to sign with Florida in the USFL while still under contract with the Bengals. Not exactly a team oriented statement, but it was much more offensive back in the day before rampant free agency.I think that if we were picking a Bengals team, and we needed a 3rd WR, I would pick Steve Kreider long before the 3rd best receiver. He was money on 3rd down, and he could also be our holder.Anyway it breaks down (in my opinion only, of course) like this:Eddie Brown 1985-91Isaac Curtis 1973-84Chad Johnson 2001-currentCris Collinsworth 1981-88Steve Kreider 1979-86 (my pick for 3rd WR/Holder)Darnay Scott 1994-2001Peter Warrick 2000-currentCarl Pickens 1992-99Chip Myers 1969-76Tim McGee 1986-92, 1994 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I would love to vote for him, but I need a couple more seeasons to validate All TIme Bengal status C'mon Boomer. With Carson throwing him the ball...the writing is on the wall baby! :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Agreed, but we are voting for who is the greatest Bengal reciever of all time, not who might be!!! I love 7-11, but you gotta do it for a career like these ther guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TippCityRick Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I gotta agree with Billy here - potential has to be part of the equation especially in the case of someone who is tied up for a long time. Chad will rewrite the Bengal record books before long (heck he's already done started!), but he also brings with him an enthuesiasm for being a Bengal that we haven't seen around here for a long while. And with Carson throwing the ball to him, man, sky's the limit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_justdmb Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I gotta agree with Billy here - potential has to be part of the equation especially in the case of someone who is tied up for a long time. Chad will rewrite the Bengal record books before long (heck he's already done started!), but he also brings with him an enthuesiasm for being a Bengal that we haven't seen around here for a long while. And with Carson throwing the ball to him, man, sky's the limit! I 100% disagree. Remember how hyped everyone was on Harold Green because he had 2 good seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TippCityRick Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Remember how hyped everyone was on Harold Green because he had 2 good seasonsagreed, however Harold played on bad teams that were getting worse and Chad is playing on an average team getting better. I think Chad has an upside potential to be one of the greatest of all time, and I've seen some pretty good ones in my day. Chad has the desire to be great and it appears that the stars have aligned for him to play in such a time that he'll play in an offensive minded era on an offensive minded team that has playoff (and more?) potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 You guys are voting on just potential though. He could potentially have a career ending injury, or potentially could be traded away, or potentially could find the cure for cancer and quit football altogether. I think you understand my point hereI hear he's working on cold fusion as we speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glnwf Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Issac Curtis was the man back in the day, but can't we even get one mention of Charlie Joiner.But as usual some good interesting points mentioned thruoghout :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glnwf Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 :player: Charlie Joiner anyone!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 :player: Charlie Joiner anyone!? Unfortunately he didn't play here long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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