Bengals to pick WR in 1st round?

[turningpoint]

http://www.bengals.com/press/news.asp?iCur...=0&news_id=2729

personally i don't give a s**t if we do as long as it's braylon Edwards or Mike Williams.

Anyways i guess i wouldn't care if we could take the 3rd best wr,because look at it this way it's one better wr we'll have and the Ravens or steelers won't be able to get.

[BengalNation1281]

I would be OK with getting a WR in round 1. We would still need help with the D, but there are enough guys who are close enough together in talent that we could still get someone in round 2 or round 3 that could make a difference.

But Williams and Edwards will be gone before #17. The way I see it, we would be looking at Terrence Murphy, Troy Williamson, or Mark Clayton, and I would go with Williamson.

As long as we don't take a RB, I will be cool with whatever Marvin decides to do.

BN1281

[CTBengalsFan]

I'd take Clayton if Edwards and Williams are gone (which in reality they will be)

[HairOnFire]

I'm not in favor of taking a wideout in the 1st round. You might even say I'm dead set against it. Don't get me wrong, I like having as many weapons as the next guy has, but going back to the WR well so quickly after drafting Washington reminds me of a kid with ADD being distracted by shiny objects.

[HoosierCat]

If we resign TJ...I don't see a first-round wideout unless someone like Mike Williams goes into freefall on draft day.

If TJ walks...well, here's where we get into those comments Marvin made about keeping Warrick's rehab under a microscope during the offseason. If P-dub is looking iffy come late April, the odds of a WR in the first go up dramatically, IMHO. If he's coming along, I think they go with Chad-Peter-Kelly as the 1-2-3 and look to pick up another WR project later in the draft.

[HairOnFire]

A little while ago Mike Williams was quoted in Los Angeles papers about working out somewhere in Georgia for the better part of a year in the hope of producing a 4.3 forty at the combines. That seems incredibly optimistic to me, but a 4.4 at Indy would be more than enough to end any and all talk about him freefalling to #17.

[TubThumper]

Personally, I don't care who they draft because the current staff has thus far earned my confidence where drafting is concerned. I've seen staffs draft the highly-touted obvious choices and either miss critical flaws or fil to coach the players up, and the draft turned out to be a bust - Dan Wilkinson, Rickey Dixon. I've seen them get cute or not handle drafting late well and end up with a bunch of plow-horses - Forrest Gregg's drafts. Marvin Lewis and company raised a lot of eyebrows last year, but so far the draft has worked out fine. I wouldn't be surprised if the kid from Michigan shuts us all up next year either.

[LABengalsFan09]

I wouldn't be surprised if the kid from Michigan shuts us all up next year either.

Nobody takes a screen pass 98 yards better on Madden, than Chris Perry.

[Beaker]

We are not taking a WR in the 1st round. If you hear a position discussed, that means it won't be taken. You heard DB, LB, CB last year....he took a RB. Its all a clever Marvin misdirection. You watch.

[turningpoint]

It could also be Carson Grumbling about how badly he wants Mike Williams....

Enough so they could trade up which Marvin said is possible, and to not resign TJ.

Why give TJ 1st round Money when u can get a 1st round talent for the same price?

[redsfan2]

We are not taking a WR in the 1st round. If you hear a position discussed, that means it won't be taken. You heard DB, LB, CB last year....he took a RB. Its all a clever Marvin misdirection. You watch.

Agree with this completely ........... the coach is an absolute master at the sleight of hand .... or if you prefer misdirection ...... getting you to watch the left hand while he does what he wants to with the right one.

" Yep all of my coordinators will be back next year ..... Now excuse me while I go have a talk with Mr Frazier here "

If they're hyping a wide receiver you can almost bet it'll be a DT. And again, like Joisey said a lot of it will be situational as well.

[BengalNation1281]

What about a SS? Is there no room in your hearts for a SS in the 1st round?

I'm cool with whatever they decide to do...they know where the problems are, and they will do their best to fix them. It all adds up to the same thing: PLAYOFFS IN 2005! WHO DEY, MOTHERF**KERS! :player: :player: :player:

BN1281

[membengal]

What about a SS? Is there no room in your hearts for a SS in the 1st round?

I'm cool with whatever they decide to do...they know where the problems are, and they will do their best to fix them. It all adds up to the same thing: PLAYOFFS IN 2005! WHO DEY, MOTHERF**KERS! :player: :player: :player:

BN1281

There's room in my heart if its that Thomas Davis monster from Georgia. Dunno if he is ML's prototype at safety, but he hits like a ton of bricks.

[Kirkendall]

We are not taking a WR in the 1st round. If you hear a position discussed, that means it won't be taken. You heard DB, LB, CB last year....he took a RB. Its all a clever Marvin misdirection. You watch.

So you're telling me that Marvin is misdirecting us, on purpose, so he can pick someone we didn't immediately need? That gosh darn deceiving Marvin GOT US AGAIN!

We need a WR, no matter how we go about it. With PW's injury, T.J.'s contract, and Washington not really measuring up, there's an absolute need to stock up our WR's

What about a SS? Is there no room in your hearts for a SS in the 1st round?

Do you mean FS? Personally, I think Madieu could be a star at SS.

[schweinhart]

WR seems deep in the draft. Proly 20-25 get drafted and some good ones like Craig Bragg, Steve Savoy, Paris Warren, Taylor Stubblefield, Geoff McArthur, JR Russell, and even Fred Gibson could be ripe for 4th rd picking.

[walshfan]

the team may take Mark Clayton as their first pick.. He's special.. Gibson is another good one imo but not in the first round..

[BengalNation1281]

Steve Savoy would be a good later-round pick. I wouldn't mind Fred Gibson, either....just please don't choose Stubblefield.

BN1281

[CJBestInAFC]

I read some Senior bowl notes that said that Clayton has been the most impressive player there.

"Clayton did exactly what he needed to do this week, which was to establish himself as one of the elite prospects at the senior bowl. From the very first practice, Clayton simply seemed to be on a different level than the rest of the receivers in this game doesn't have good size and he lacks elite speed, but other wised he's the complete prospect. Clayton has good moves and great quickness to get off the line of scrimmage. He gets into his routes quickly, shows excellent body control as a route runner and doesn't need to gear down going into his breaks. He shows very good instincts and recognition skills versus man to man and zone coverage. His subtle moves and fluid hips allow him to consistently separate from man coverage. He doesn't have the size to win on a lot of jump balls, but he's a vertical threat nonetheless. He shows deceptive speed and the ability to track the ball down in the air. Clayton also shows burst and explosiveness after the catch. Most impressive, however, were his hands throughout the week of practice. He consistently plucked the ball on the run, adjusted to poorly thrown balls, came up with the ball in traffic and got to the deep ball downfield. If there were any questions about Clayton's value as a late first rounder, they were answered this week."

CJ, Pdub, Clayton, and Washington would be ustoppable. I would take this guy at 17 if he is available.

[shworge]

Do you mean FS? Personally, I think Madieu could be a star at SS.

I view Madieu as more as a FS due to his excellent ability in coverage. I think Thomas Davis would be awesome at SS if he fell to us, he is a Roy Williams type of player who loves playing up in the box and crushes people when he hits them.

[bengalsman]

hey guys dont forget burress frm the steelers is a free agent we could have three wr that can make plays at anytime he maybe cheap as well due to lack of numbers in a running system

[TubThumper]

Do you mean FS?  Personally, I think Madieu could be a star at SS.

I view Madieu as more as a FS due to his excellent ability in coverage. I think Thomas Davis would be awesome at SS if he fell to us, he is a Roy Williams type of player who loves playing up in the box and crushes people when he hits them.

Although the Bengals' strong safeties cover a lot, I think it would be a waste to put Williams permanently at strong because of his coverage abilities. There's nothing wrong with free safeties that can tackle.

[BengalNation1281]

Oddly enough, I agree with Thumper...Madieu would do fine at SS, but he is far more valuable to the defense at FS. I say we get Thomas Davis in the 1st and worry about WR in the 2nd or 3rd...but I wouldn't mind Clayton or Williamson in the 1st.

BN1281

[Kirkendall]

Pass defense isn't the Bengals problem, he's better at SS to help support the crappy run defense. Put a superfast, yet highly competitent person at FS, and watch the Pro-Bowls come.

[CJBestInAFC]

These are some great highlights of Mark Clayton. This guy is awesome.

http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.db...6&Q_SEASON=2004

[jditty47]

Pass defense isn't the Bengals problem, he's better at SS to help support the crappy run defense. Put a superfast, yet highly competitent person at FS, and watch the Pro-Bowls come.

ya we need a better safety but we also need a 3rd threat on the pass rush besides geathers and smith. oh and we need a better run stuffer up the middle or on the end.