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I've always wanted to ask the significane of that hand in your avatar JJ? Did you win a W.S. bracelet with that hand???? I know it's not Wild Bill's dead mans hand...

It is a perfect hand in the card game Euchre, if the suit you are holding is the suit that is called. The Jack of Hearts is the highest card , then the Jack of Diamonds and on down. Click on my screen name and it explains it a little better.

I'm still working on that whole Texas Hold 'em thing though. I've got a long way to go.

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This is football, not politics, I'm not sure what to say about wanting him to go somewhere else, you must be crazy! But, I'm sure Marvin is reading this right now and is outraged by the comment and is submitting his resume all over the country right now. Give me a break, lighten up a little, it is Martin Luther King day!

Actually, politics probably had more to do with your beloved Coach Lewis being here than you realize.

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It was Peter Warrick during training camp. Tub-Humper, just let it go, you sound like a clowns fan... If people want to go along with Warrick in saying he is an Icon and someone to have faith in the things he is doing, then let them, without opening your mouth and demonstrating your lack of class or loyalty. :player:

Well, I've had to kick an ass or two because someone thought they could call me something because some other idiot gave them the idea that it was OK, and they couldn't deal with being told that it was unacceptable. They thought I was unreasonable and classless and all that, but their ass was just as kicked. As I recall, one guy was a team mate, so I guess he thought I was disloyal too. *@#! him.

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Well, I've had to kick an ass or two because someone thought they could call me something because some other idiot gave them the idea that it was OK, and they couldn't deal with being told that it was unacceptable. They thought I was unreasonable and classless and all that, but their ass was just as kicked. As I recall, one guy was a team mate, so I guess he thought I was disloyal too. *@#! him.

Enough of this talk! Keep it football please!

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Kicking ass over someone calling you a name?

Yeah, you have ALL the right to talk about class.

Class includes being the bigger man in the situation and walking away.

As I said, the ass got kicked not because the person called me a name, but because they couldn't deal with being confronted with it's inappropriateness. Well, actually that's not true of one incident in grade school - but I'm not sorry about that one at all; I'm only prepared to walk away from the same jackass so many times.

Yeah, I have all the right to talk about class - I have enough class to know that repeating crass statements isn't suddenly not crass because some non-reflective dim-bulb said it in mixed company. If I'm being crass, I at least have the decency to know that I'm being crass and not feign innocence and naivete. That's something I like about me. :D

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Yeah, I have all the right to talk about class - I have enough class to know that repeating crass statements isn't suddenly not crass because some non-reflective dim-bulb said it in mixed company. If I'm being crass, I at least have the decency to know that I'm being crass and not feign innocence and naivete. That's something I like about me. :D

Ooookaaayyyyy? If someone called you a name and you accepted it as a compliment would you still feel the need to kick their ass. Just asking 'cause you seem to be the only one bothered by the name. I'm guessing, when no one's around, it probably gives marvin a little satisfied grin. Whatever, keep vigilantly patrolling the borders of your conscience for perceived slights and we'll keep talking about football.

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Yeah, I have all the right to talk about class - I have enough class to know that repeating crass statements isn't suddenly not crass because some non-reflective dim-bulb said it in mixed company.  If I'm being crass, I at least have the decency to know that I'm being crass and not feign innocence and naivete.  That's something I like about me.   :D

Ooookaaayyyyy? If someone called you a name and you accepted it as a compliment would you still feel the need to kick their ass. Just asking 'cause you seem to be the only one bothered by the name. I'm guessing, when no one's around, it probably gives marvin a little satisfied grin. Whatever, keep vigilantly patrolling the borders of your conscience for perceived slights and we'll keep talking about football.

Don't ya know it's all about issues. Everybody's gotta have issues BBTB. :rolleyes:

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Actualy Im not too impressed about who's ass you can kick over the internet!!

As far as Marvin Lewis goes, people can call him anything they want. In football terms he's brought respectability back to Cincinnati very quickly and if that means he walks on water now so be it.. Black Jesus is the nickname allot of fans call him and I see nothing wrong with it... Its rather entertaining..

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Don't ya know it's all about issues.  Everybody's gotta have issues BBTB.  :rolleyes:

True that -- I've got issues too, they're just too embarassing even to talk about anonymously on the web. Other people's issues confuse and frighten me.

Good point jjakq and bbtb, yes...we've all got issues. Myself included! Mr. Humper and I have corresponded, and I now feel it is not personal towards any one here. I'm good to go on that, but let's keep it as unthreatening as we can. Rudi fans, Corey fans, Bengal fans, Patriot fans...to quote Rodney King, can't we all just get along?

I'm not saying don't disagree! F**k that! Just try to respect the other person!

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Yeah, I have all the right to talk about class - I have enough class to know that repeating crass statements isn't suddenly not crass because some non-reflective dim-bulb said it in mixed company.  If I'm being crass, I at least have the decency to know that I'm being crass and not feign innocence and naivete.  That's something I like about me.   :D

Ooookaaayyyyy? If someone called you a name and you accepted it as a compliment would you still feel the need to kick their ass. Just asking 'cause you seem to be the only one bothered by the name. I'm guessing, when no one's around, it probably gives marvin a little satisfied grin. Whatever, keep vigilantly patrolling the borders of your conscience for perceived slights and we'll keep talking about football.

Don't ya know it's all about issues. Everybody's gotta have issues BBTB. :rolleyes:

You should be glad that I have issues. But for a lot of people like me having issues around here, your beloved "Black Jesus" probably wouldn't be here at all. Like I said before, politics indirectly had a lot more to do with that situation than you might think. That was a bit of serendipity. Stick around though, 'cause somebody around here is bound to screw something else up, 'cause people around here never see anything wrong with anything they do - until somebody from outside like Paul Tagliabue steps in. :lol::lol::lol:

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This is football, not politics, I'm not sure what to say about wanting him to go somewhere else, you must be crazy!  But, I'm sure Marvin is reading this right now and is outraged by the comment and is submitting his resume all over the country right now.  Give me a break, lighten up a little, it is Martin Luther King day!

Actually, politics probably had more to do with your beloved Coach Lewis being here than you realize.

Marvin Lewis got the name "Black Jesus" because he

"ressurected" the Bengals from the dead and restored "hope and faith"

back into the fans and the city.

Anyway, I don`t follow you to well TubThumper.

What do you mean exactly when you say "your beloved

Coach Marvin Lewis" ? Isn`t he YOUR beloved coach too ?

You seem to praise Leon (Corey Dillon) and bash everything

about Cincinnati and the BENGALS from the Owner to the paperboy.

It just doesn`t make much sense to me for some1 that spends

so much time on a Bengals "FAN" website as you do, to do that.

It seems to me that you are more of a CRITIC than a FAN. :huh:

fan (fn) KEY

NOUN:

An ardent devotee; an enthusiast.

crit·ic (krtk) KEY

NOUN:

One who tends to make harsh or carping judgments; a faultfinder.

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Yeah, I have all the right to talk about class - I have enough class to know that repeating crass statements isn't suddenly not crass because some non-reflective dim-bulb said it in mixed company.  If I'm being crass, I at least have the decency to know that I'm being crass and not feign innocence and naivete.  That's something I like about me.   :D

Ooookaaayyyyy? If someone called you a name and you accepted it as a compliment would you still feel the need to kick their ass. Just asking 'cause you seem to be the only one bothered by the name. I'm guessing, when no one's around, it probably gives marvin a little satisfied grin. Whatever, keep vigilantly patrolling the borders of your conscience for perceived slights and we'll keep talking about football.

Don't ya know it's all about issues. Everybody's gotta have issues BBTB. :rolleyes:

You should be glad that I have issues. But for a lot of people like me having issues around here, your beloved "Black Jesus" probably wouldn't be here at all. Like I said before, politics indirectly had a lot more to do with that situation than you might think. That was a bit of serendipity. Stick around though, 'cause somebody around here is bound to screw something else up, 'cause people around here never see anything wrong with anything they do - until somebody from outside like Paul Tagliabue steps in. :lol::lol::lol:

Thanks for bringing Coach Lewis to town, I think? :blink:

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Anyway, I don`t follow you to well TubThumper.

What do you mean exactly when you say "your beloved

Coach Marvin Lewis" ? Isn`t he YOUR beloved coach too ?

You seem to praise Leon (Corey Dillon) and bash everything

about Cincinnati and the BENGALS from the Owner to the paperboy.

It just doesn`t make much sense to me for some1 that spends

so much time on a Bengals "FAN" website as you do, to do that.

It seems to me that you are more of a CRITIC than a FAN. :huh:

fan (fn) KEY

NOUN:

An ardent devotee; an enthusiast.

crit·ic (krtk) KEY

NOUN:

One who tends to make harsh or carping judgments; a faultfinder.

There are/were more of the latter than you think Old Schooler.

I remember an old chap by the name of Barbarian, BengalBax, and a few others.

Used to post quite frequently here.

I saw Tibor post here a few times, but THANKFULLY, he didn't make it a common occurence.

TubThumper might be the next torchbearer of a long lineage of critics posing as fans.

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This is football, not politics, I'm not sure what to say about wanting him to go somewhere else, you must be crazy!  But, I'm sure Marvin is reading this right now and is outraged by the comment and is submitting his resume all over the country right now.  Give me a break, lighten up a little, it is Martin Luther King day!

Actually, politics probably had more to do with your beloved Coach Lewis being here than you realize.

Marvin Lewis got the name "Black Jesus" because he

"ressurected" the Bengals from the dead and restored "hope and faith"

back into the fans and the city.

Anyway, I don`t follow you to well TubThumper.

What do you mean exactly when you say "your beloved

Coach Marvin Lewis" ? Isn`t he YOUR beloved coach too ?

You seem to praise Leon (Corey Dillon) and bash everything

about Cincinnati and the BENGALS from the Owner to the paperboy.

It just doesn`t make much sense to me for some1 that spends

so much time on a Bengals "FAN" website as you do, to do that.

It seems to me that you are more of a CRITIC than a FAN. :huh:

fan (fn) KEY

NOUN:

An ardent devotee; an enthusiast.

crit·ic (krtk) KEY

NOUN:

One who tends to make harsh or carping judgments; a faultfinder.

How amusing. That's a harsh and carping selection of a definition for "critic".

I guess I'm a fan in the sense of being an enthusiast, but unlike some others, the synonyms "zealot" and "groupie" don't apply to me. Now, a critic is also merely, someone who finds fault with or disapproves of something, so from time to time I guess I am a critic. What thinking person isn't? On the other hand, I've expressed many sweet and lovely sentiments about the virtues of the Bengals and individual players. So, I like to think that I'm critical in the sense of "involving analysis and assessment," evaluating both the good and the bad.

Now the whole tendency question does have merit where the city of Cincinnati and it's general surroundings and culture are concerned. I do tend to be disapproving of the general cultural mix in Cincinnati. I root for the Bengals because, being close at hand, they're easier to keep up with, not because they represent this backwater.

Anyway, no, Marvin Lewis is not "MY" beloved Marvin Lewis. He's doing a good job as a football coach, and that's all well and good. I respect him and wish him success, but I don't love him. I don't even know the guy. Sheez. I'm not duty bound to hate Corey Dillon. He's just another guy trying to deal with his demons and do what he does. It's not a zero-sum game anyway. What's good for Dillon isn't going to detract from what's good for the Bengals.

I do enjoy yanking you guys' chains though. But I guess I do tend to overreact to the provincial and parochial spewings of the local gentry. I should work on that. I suppose it would also amuse you and give you fodder for more calumny to know that my name is actually Leon.

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Now the whole tendency question does have merit where the city of Cincinnati and it's general surroundings and culture are concerned.  I do tend to be disapproving of the general cultural mix in Cincinnati.  I root for the Bengals because, being close at hand, they're easier to keep up with, not because they represent this backwater.

I've oftened wondered what prompts some Bengal fans to simply ignore Dillon's past history of outbursts and the incredibly negative impact his type of behavior can have on a roster. C'mon, missing the guys talent is one thing, but ignoring the angry elephant standing in the living room is another.

At the risk of being taken out on the playground and Thumped grade school style, is it possible that Corey Dillon represents a sympathetic figure whose boorish past behavior is more easily embraced by a minority of fans who wouldn't mind a little change of scenery themselves? Fans who weigh Dillon's antics and think to themselves..."I understand that guy better than most. In fact, I wish I could talk my way out of this backwater existence just like Dillon did."

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Now the whole tendency question does have merit where the city of Cincinnati and it's general surroundings and culture are concerned.  I do tend to be disapproving of the general cultural mix in Cincinnati.  I root for the Bengals because, being close at hand, they're easier to keep up with, not because they represent this backwater.

I've oftened wondered what prompts some Bengal fans to simply ignore Dillon's past history of outbursts and the incredibly negative impact his type of behavior can have on a roster. C'mon, missing the guys talent is one thing, but ignoring the angry elephant standing in the living room is another.

At the risk of being taken out on the playground and Thumped grade school style, is it possible that Corey Dillon represents a sympathetic figure whose boorish past behavior is more easily embraced by a minority of fans who wouldn't mind a little change of scenery themselves? Fans who weigh Dillon's antics and think to themselves..."I understand that guy better than most. In fact, I wish I could talk my way out of this backwater existence just like Dillon did."

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Keen analysis indeed.

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