DavidGivens Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 [We're definitely not there yet. But we're no laughing stock either. There is allot of young talent on this team, and we can beat anybody given the right circumstances. I'm not saying we will beat the Pats on Sunday, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if we did (unlike most Pats fans). It's going to take time for Marvin to undo what's been done to this franchise by it's own management during the last 14 years. I think everyone here realizes this. The important thing is that it's getting done. We Bengals fans see it. And in a year or two, the rest of the country will see it too. no, you're not a laughingstock. i've been by your stadium as recently as last month, and no laughingstock franchise would have a great facility like that. that building goes to show how far that team has come.BTW, Fins in Newport is an awesome place in the summer. im sure many on this board have been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubThumper Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Actually the stadium goes to show that people here are rubes. It's an over-priced boondoggle. A sophisticated citizenry would have let Mike Brown take his team and shove it. So far, I admire the people of Los Angeles for having the moxy to resist the siren song of the NFL - but it looks like they'll be caving soon. No sports team is worth giving in to extortion.That being said, I don't think league personnel are laughing at the Bengals. They're spending more time worrying about not getting beat by the Bengals. The Bengals aren't in the league's elite yet, but they present a lot of problems for people. This is a team that can beat anybody, or play badly enough to lose to anybody. BB is hilarious when he builds the Bengals up like George Foreman building up the tomato can d'jour, but he's also got to be genuinely concerned. Corey Dillon is a bit of a head case, but he can play, and it's more likely that being in Cincinnati was cancer that ate at him than that he was cancer eating at the team. Dillon is a performer, and like a lot of performers, he's high-strung. Lunch-pail toting crybabies like you have in this town are eaten up with jealousy that they don't have the talent to make a lot of money running around a ball field in the first place. My jury is still out on Dillon, but I'm glad to see both him and the players and staff of the Bengals do well. I separate rooting for the players and staff in their efforts to excel from the fact that they play in Cincinnati, because the yokels in Cincinnati probably deserve every heartache they get. Dillon is a talented, arrogant man, and the real reason these frustrated chuckle-heads are so eaten up with bitterness beyond what even his bad behavior warrants is that if there's one thing people around here can't stand, it's an uppity you-know-what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 What the hell happened to the Pats in the preseason at PBS here? Vanilla schmilla, hopefully it'll be a repeat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzoo Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Gee whiz Tubthumper, that was some mighteee fine wordsmithin'.We ain't seen nuthin' like that round these parts since Mike Dukakis came 'round a way back in 88 or so.So I guess what you're trying to say is that toothless, working class citizens of Cincinnati don't deserve Corey Dillon because we're all racist bigoted fools.Maybe you need to realize that this is a football bulletin board, and while I do appreciate reading a post with correct grammar and spelling, it's a little more than annoying when a cat like you comes around with some agenda dating back to this past election.Take your blue state rage and move along to a politcal board whydontcha....Btw...It doesn't get anymore whitebread than Bill Belichick. What a fuddyduddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubThumper Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Actually, familiarity breeds contempt. I was born and raised in this redneck backwater. The inbred Cincinnati mentality and the die-hard devotion to petty, peevish mediocrity has a lot to do with the Bengals being losers for so long. Let's face it, if the league hadn't stepped in and told Mikey Boy that his team and his city were an embarrassment, and that he needed to get in step with the real world and do something other than hire the same ol' incompetent good ol' boys, the Bengals would still be losing and you'd still be whining and bitching on WLW. Actually, you're still whining and bitching on WLW. You injected the election yeast into the discussion. Something must be troubling you about it. And the Cincinnati mentality transcends class.Back to football, Corey Dillon is a high-strung, competitive athlete. Some of what he did was inappropriate, some of it was a matter of negotiation tactics, and some of it was just the kind of thing to which stunted yahoos are prone to over-react. He's moved on and the Bengals have moved on. It's part of the game, like it or not. Mature minds will let it go and likewise move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Actually, familiarity breeds contempt. I was born and raised in this redneck backwater. The inbred Cincinnati mentality and the die-hard devotion to petty, peevish mediocrity has a lot to do with the Bengals being losers for so long. Let's face it, if the league hadn't stepped in and told Mikey Boy that his team and his city were an embarrassment, and that he needed to get in step with the real world and do something other than hire the same ol' incompetent good ol' boys, the Bengals would still be losing and you'd still be whining and bitching on WLW. Actually, you're still whining and bitching on WLW. You injected the election yeast into the discussion. Something must be troubling you about it. And the Cincinnati mentality transcends class.Back to football, Corey Dillon is a high-strung, competitive athlete. Some of what he did was inappropriate, some of it was a matter of negotiation tactics, and some of it was just the kind of thing to which stunted yahoos are prone to over-react. He's moved on and the Bengals have moved on. It's part of the game, like it or not. Mature minds will let it go and likewise move on.Wow I find it amusing and rather pathetic that you say"I was born and raised there" then go on to bash Cincinnatiand the people like you are ABOVE them. And the reason the Bengals were losers was because Mike Brown was taught how to run an NFL team from his dadPaul Brown. Free Agency was non existent and Mike Browndidn`t use it to add anything but other teams cast offs. I mean with your reasoning for the Bengals being losers,then that means they should/would have NEVER went to the Super Bowl.And the Reds should/would have NEVER won a World Series. Anyway what Dillon did wasn`t something a true fan of the Bengalsshould take lightly and forgive. Sure the media has asked him questionsabout his time with the Bengals...but he definitely hasn`t taken the high road.He laughed for almost 10 seconds and said "Oh man" when asked if they would ever be winners. He acts like he was a victim when he was in Cincinnati.He spit on his contract, team mates,Marvin Lewis, the fans and the city.I think he deserves a far worse fate than what Ickey Woods had to go through.That has nothing to do with over reacting ...and everything to do with reactingas a life long Bengal fan ...that was only a fan of Dillon`s because he PLAYEDFOR THE BENGALS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 I honestly couldn't agree more, oldschooler. I am just curious what the ESPN talking heads reaction will be after a Bengal's win Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHO DEY AGAIN? Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Very well put Oldschooler! :player:I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 You should of seen what Merril Hoge said about CD on ESPN last night. He said that a "true" great player handles adversity and rises above the bad things happening around him and steps up to help right the ship. Since Corey did the opposite he said that he wasn't a great player and that Cincy did good by getting rid of him for a ROY candidate. I laughed my arse off!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 That was funny from Hodge. Dillon's a quitter and is very immature. He can run like a beast, but unless he's in the perfect situation he'll bring everyone else down, quit on the field, and throw tempertantrums.He's moved on and the Bengals have moved on. It's part of the game, like it or not. Mature minds will let it go and likewise move on.Yes, I would love for people to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 . I refuse to believe that beatdown secondary will shut CJ and TJ down just because they have *** damn cap'n crunch on their helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 That being said, I don't think league personnel are laughing at the Bengals. They're spending more time worrying about not getting beat by the Bengals. The Bengals aren't in the league's elite yet, but they present a lot of problems for people. This is a team that can beat anybody, or play badly enough to lose to anybody. Hmmm.....that's an interesting comment you made, and it sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubThumper Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 What I find pathetic and not so amusing are people that put a halo on everything in their own backyard because it happens to be in their own back yard. The people I'm bashing in Cincinnati are the ones that spend all their time bashing everybody else under the sun. The Enquirer and WLW bear testimony to that contention that petty, peevish, provincial people dominate the scene in Cincinnati. True enough the Reds and Bengals have had their brief days in the sun. But, in the Bengals' case in particular, success followed such abject failure that they had to circle the wagons and kind of remove themselves from the local atmosphere and act like they played in the league rather than the city. I enjoy following the progress of the Bengals, now that they've been pressured into trying to act like an NFL organization, but I recognize that an NFL team is a business, not a community institution. The first team that I go completely ape @*%# over is the first team that starts sending checks to my house.I don't think Dillon is a great player, and I think he can be quite a bit of an ass when he wants to be. But the crying, bitching, pissing, moaning, bellyaching and venom spitting going on in Cincinnati is way over the top. Grow up and get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLuck Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'd just like to say, for the record, that if there's one thing the Bengals CAN'T do against anybody, let alone the Patriots, it's shutting down the run.We either outgun them or we lose. Plain and simple.EDIT: Oh, and by the way, drop the holier-than-thou s**t, shut up and get bent. If Tom Brady threw his gear in the stands and said "F**k you, I'm never playing here again.", you'd be over on our board, bitching about it exactly the same way we are.What's worse, he left because he wasn't getting any credit for turning the franchise around. He wasn't fed up with us not winning, he was fed up for not enough people sucking his freaking c**k. You know what slick? That deserves a "venom-spitting", if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 What I find pathetic and not so amusing are people that put a halo on everything in their own backyard because it happens to be in their own back yard. The people I'm bashing in Cincinnati are the ones that spend all their time bashing everybody else under the sun. The Enquirer and WLW bear testimony to that contention that petty, peevish, provincial people dominate the scene in Cincinnati. True enough the Reds and Bengals have had their brief days in the sun. But, in the Bengals' case in particular, success followed such abject failure that they had to circle the wagons and kind of remove themselves from the local atmosphere and act like they played in the league rather than the city. I enjoy following the progress of the Bengals, now that they've been pressured into trying to act like an NFL organization, but I recognize that an NFL team is a business, not a community institution. The first team that I go completely ape @*%# over is the first team that starts sending checks to my house.I don't think Dillon is a great player, and I think he can be quite a bit of an ass when he wants to be. But the crying, bitching, pissing, moaning, bellyaching and venom spitting going on in Cincinnati is way over the top. Grow up and get over it. So let me get this straight ? You`re bitching about people who bitch ? And that makes sense to you ? Let me just say ...Hi Mr Pot ...meet Mr Kettle ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzoo Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'm really not getting what axe tubthumper is trying to grind here.On one hand you call people that follow their favorite team with passion rubes and morons, but at the same time you're the one taking time out of your day to post about a football game on a message board.I'm having a hard time grasping whatever concept you're attempting to purvey.I guess we won't have to deal with you after Dillon gets smacked in the mouth today anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDey42 Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I just saw the clip of Corey's interview on HBO for the first time. They just showed it on NFL Today on CBS. They said it was the "juciest" bulliten board material that Marvin could come up with for this week. That video pissed me off so much...please shut that d*****s up today. :player: WHO DEY :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan2330 Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 This game matches the intensity of last years Chiefs game. Another mark for respect, god to do I hate Dillion. I understand if he had gripes with the Bengals managment, but let it go dude- it's almost been a year now and any chance CD gets he rips the Bengals. I would be pissed if I played for the Patsies. Hopefully this whole CD thing and Fat Boy Weis possibly going to South Bend is even to distract New England and Cincy can sneak in a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubThumper Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I never said that people who follow a team with passion are rubes. But, people who go completely ape *@%$ are. And, everybody is entitled to bitch now and again, but the ones who seem to live for nothing but to pour out their vitriol on everything that doesn't match the decor in their little postage stamp back yard are quite something else. The Dillon trade was a good thing for everybody. I'm glad the Bengals are getting better - I hope to see them in the Super Bowl in a year or two. I'm glad that Dillon is somewhere the he feels comfortable, and I'm glad that the Pats find him a valuable addition. I'm glad Rudi Johnson is getting an opportunity to show his stuff - and he is much better for the Bengal's locker room than Dillon was to be sure. I support the guys with their hat in the arena, not the image and the myth. Looks like those guys are moving on with life where Dillon is concerned. Maybe you should too. As an old lady I knew used to say, "If you're mad, pat your ass and get glad."And, lest you erect the "hypocrite" straw man once more, I'll be moving on from this topic myself. Hasta luego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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