Perry to get checked out

[HoosierCat]

man, get off perry hes been FRICKIN INJURED. all you ppl do is bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch [snip] bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch

ditty, I don't always agree with you, but regarding Perry & the conversation around these parts, that may be (and no sarcasm intended here at all) the best comment anyone has ever made.

[Bobcat Bengal]

How ironic.

This guy's a workhorse back in college without a hint of injury until the Senior Bowl.

Now he's out with spasms in his back and muthaf**kin' allergy attacks.

(like that rhyme?)

[BengalszoneBilly]

This is not a franchise that engenders outright trust.

I nominate this quote as the Bengalszone "Hittin' The Nail On The Head" Statement of the Year!

As far as Perry, he's been injured the whole time since camp started, and it looks as though he's a fragile little waste of a draft pick! With the Bengals now trying to grab a DE in desperation from what's currently available on the market (a.k.a. another teams garbage that was sent out to the curb on garbage day ) this is just further proof that Cincinnati should have addressed this issue during the draft when there were many viable options out there, instead of chasing the folly of "The Best Player Available!"

Like Old Schooler pointed out about the franchise, as in with our lack of outright trust in matters such as these...it's simply because they've done such an extremely poor job in the past of trying to do this very thing! I'll go as far and say a freakin' coin flip, or draft by a blind draw from the player pool would probably have yielded better overall results for the Bengals than can be claimed by the recent actual parties involved!

Just once I'd like to hear a sports analyst commend the Bengals for being an organization that routinely drafts well. Oh...by that I DON'T mean with routinely getting an early pick each year in the draft. That's a symptom of routinely drafting POORLY!!

[kevnz]

What are you on about Billy? The two Drafts Marvin has been here for have been very good. Yeah, the jury is still out on Perry but so far his picks make sense, finally.

[HoosierCat]

With the Bengals now trying to grab a DE in desperation from what's currently available on the market (a.k.a. another teams garbage that was sent out to the curb on garbage day )

Huh? Billy, they signed Crawford back in April & he played for the Bengals in preseason. Obviously they like the kid, but didn't have room for him. Now they have a hole on the PS and they fill it by bringing him back -- and you're complaining? And where's this hole at DE we have? Show me the first round DE who's doing that much better than Geathers.

[oldschooler]

With the Bengals now trying to grab a DE in desperation from what's currently available on the market (a.k.a. another teams garbage that was sent out to the curb on garbage day )

Huh? Billy, they signed Crawford back in April & he played for the Bengals in preseason. Obviously they like the kid, but didn't have room for him. Now they have a hole on the PS and they fill it by bringing him back -- and you're complaining? And where's this hole at DE we have? Show me the first round DE who's doing that much better than Geathers.

I agree. Geathers is a very pleasant surprise and a steal

in the 4th round !!!

Kenechi Udeze has 25 tackles and 4 sacks in 11 games.

Will Smith has 28 tackles and 4 sacks in 11 games.

Geathers has 10 tackles and 3.5 sacks in 9 games.

He has seen limited playing time up until recently even.

[schweinhart]

I believe Mr. Broome was referring to Shaun Smith the DT as being recently signed , not DE.

As for Chris Perry, he looked decent in the Rose Bowl vs. USC, sits out Senior Bowl, gets drafted by Bengals then like Shula Steakhouse holds out, finally shows up and fumbles his 1st pre-season carry, plays in a couple games and make a couple nice catches out of the backfield....And that's been it.

To me, Perry's has more vision than Rudi to find holes especially on cutbacks but hasn't show downhill run w/ burst and power. He's a better receiver than Rudi, but is nowhere near Rudi as a reliable power runner or a better back-up and 3rd down back than Watson. It's been the best thing in this respect that he hasn't played much because he hasn't beat anybody out.

Yes, yes. He's had injuries. Apparently serious enough to sideline him. When he is ready to play, I hope he comes out of the chute like Julius Jones (who Mikey could've picked instead). But I doubt it.

Drafting a RB 1st day was understandable w/ Dillon and Bennett on way out and Rudi an RFA w/ 1-yr. tender. But not 1st rd, not w/ needs the Bengals had on D. Plus, I question the talent evaluation w/ regards to Perry.

[HoosierCat]

I believe Mr. Broome was referring to Shaun Smith the DT as being recently signed , not DE.

That would certainly make more sense, but still...

Drafting a RB 1st day was understandable w/ Dillon and Bennett on way out and Rudi an RFA w/ 1-yr. tender. But not 1st rd, not w/ needs the Bengals had on D.

...who, then? If you go and look at the DE/DT's we could have had in round one last April (and who were considered legit selections at that point), there's really no one who'd be a lock to beat out the likes of even a Moore or a Geathers. Of course, no one knew how things were going to go at the time, so it can be argued that they still ought to have gone defense, but looking back now it doesn't seem that it would have made a great deal of difference.

Plus, I question the talent evaluation w/ regards to Perry.

Well, that the $64,000 question, isn't it? If Perry gets healthy and turns into Corey Dillon with a better attitude, all the complaints about his selection will fade into smoke. If he keeps getting hurt and ends up being the next Ki-Jana, the opprobrium will never end...

[BengalszoneBilly]

I believe Mr. Broome was referring to Shaun Smith the DT as being recently signed , not DE.

That would certainly make more sense

Oops, I was.

What are you on about Billy? The two Drafts Marvin has been here for have been very good. Yeah, the jury is still out on Perry but so far his picks make sense, finally.

Very Good? If you compare them to many previous "Bungles" drafts, sure. Compared to the rest of the NFL, I would call them decent or average at best. From his 2 first picks at each draft, he's only at .500. Palmer has been adequate, but still learning. Hopefully he'll show us more as he progresses. I think he will. Perry performance has been hard to determine, but with all these injuries reported, that alone has me thinking "bust" on Mr. Perry. I need no jury to tell me someone is fragile. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Marvin Lewis has done a better job with picking up good free agents free agents (Sapp aside, and I'm happy he ain't here. He's not setting the world afire in Oakland!) than through the draft.

But I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The draft sucks. I know you have to have it, but I still say it's a poor way to evaluate how a player will perform on the pro level, because honestly NOBODY really knows! I mean do we need to go get Bax to remind us of the total amount of draft busts Cincinnati has stumbled into on draft day? (Don't answer that last question! )

Just once I'd like to hear a sports analyst commend the Bengals for being an organization that routinely drafts well.

I'm still waiting for this to happen, and it hasn't. Routinely or just for a single draft. Even with "In Marvin We Trust" Lewis.

Damn! Where's Chrishcovga when we need his 2 cents here!

[WhoDey93285]

Does anyone know if Perry is playing today or not?

[Bobcat Bengal]

Does anyone know if Perry is playing today or not?

A better question is, does anybody care?

[jditty47]

bengals.com says hes out.

Also the new guy ppl were so excited about is inactive too. wow who woulda thunk it? (me)

O'Neal is playing though, and Herring is starting for Beckett cuz beckett is out with his neck injury.

[Bobcat Bengal]

bengals.com says hes out.

Man, HUGE suprise there.

With so many draft picks that haven't panned out, the Bengals can write Chris Perry off for the rest of the season. This is his 'McGahee Re-Hab year'.

[jditty47]

hehe thats how im gonna look at it. why be negative to a guy that hasnt sucked for us. And theres no real need to rush him back, rudi's doing an ample job and so is watson. We'll need him more next year than this year anyway. I still agree with the pick, all you pessimists can start blasting him again for the umteenth week in a row.

[Chucktkd]

I hope it's not a tear...that could end his career. He did warm up and was ready to play in Baltimore but they kept him out because of inexperience.

[STRAYCAT]

Just another first round bust...a perfect example of why the Bengals can't get over the hump (they miss on way too many first rounders).

Even when healthy, he's an average backup at best and a comparable player could've easily been had in FA or off the waiver wire (see Kenny Watson).

Instead they're paying him a huge chunk of change and getting absolutely zilch in return.

His injury aside, whomever was responsible for drafting him should be fired.

What a horrible pick. There's just no other way to look at it. And it is why I think Mike Brown still calls the shots on the 1st rounders and makes him and his cronies responsible for it more so than the coaches. Such a stupid Mike Brownesque pick.

Enough with the skill players in the 1st round already - those people are a dime a dozen these days - time to draft nothing but lineman in the 1st on either side of the ball.

Sorry to threadjack/rant.

Hey Shula. Is Dave a waiter or what in that pic..lol. I'm starting to wonder about Perry. One of two things. Marvin is letting Rudi build his price up because the browns won't pay and he knows that and he is putting Perry on ice to unvail next year or Perry is damaged goods we didn't know about when drafted.

[jjakq27]

Hey Shula you are right. When you look at the Bengals' history/success in the first round, they should trade down every single year.

I think the jury is out on Perry since we haven't seen much of him this year. I am wondering if there is something more to his injury than just a pull (See Peter Warrick). I am wondering if he might have a muscle tear or maybe a sports hernia like Barry Larkin had a few years ago.

Swami, you just been replaced.

[jjakq27]

It looks like CP was placed on IR today. The Bengals picked up a guy named Matt Cherry WR to the 53-player roster. He was on the Jacksonville Jaguars practice squad. He played at Akron and was a free agent with the Jags.

from Bengals .com

"Rookie running back Chris Perry is expected to miss the first six weeks of conditioning next year, but he'll be back in time for all of the spring minicamps. He is to undergo surgery on his sports hernia next week ...

The Bengals today placed RB Chris Perry on the Reserve/Injured list and signed rookie WR Matt Cherry to the 53-player roster from the Jacksonville Jaguars practice squad. Cherry (6-1, 203; Akron) entered the NFL following the 2004 Draft, signing with Jacksonville as a college free agent. He played in two preseason games for Jacksonville, with one catch for four yards. He was waived Aug. 31 by the Jaguars and signed Sept. 7 to the Jacksonville practice squad. Perry has not played since Oct. 17, due to an abdominal injury suffered Oct. 20 during practice. Perry is the 17th Bengal to go on a season-ending list in 2004. "

[jjakq27]

It looks like CP was placed on IR today. The Bengals picked up a guy named Matt Cherry WR to the 53-player roster. He was on the Jacksonville Jaguars practice squad. He played at Akron and was a free agent with the Jags.

Does anybody know the significance capwise, rosterwise, etc. for the Bengals putting Perry on IR and also picking up this receiver Cherry before the last game of the year?