skyline Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 It's official. I hate to see it, but at least we can finally stop worrying about this.I would love to see Kelley Washington step up, now that he is guaranteed a good amount of playing time for the rest of the year. He had two big catches in TN on third downs, so now let's see him build on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Man that really sucks. I was kinda suspicious when they promoted Cliff Russell rather than a defensive player when Webster got hurt. The thing I couldn't understand is that he played in the Denver game. They even threw a long pass to him late in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 This ramifications of this might also roll over to the upcoming draft, ala last seasons #1 pick of Chris Perry over the much more dire situation of the defensive line was in then, and it's even WORSE now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 While this is a bummer, it is hardly a surprise. What I'd like to know is whether this is due to the "Shin" or the "Knee"?I think he has been undone since his knee got munched last season. It was never expressed how the re-hab was going, then was an immediate problem in mini-camp and traininng camp. The advent of the "Shin" injury begs the question of his long-term durability. I think P-Dub is a fine team player and not one who whines and complains the way Dillon used to. If a 2nd receiver does not step-up (TJ has played about as well as we could hope, especially since his head was being called for b/f season started, hammy in question) we need to go into free agancy, or draft and gt a nice WR who can compliment CJ (I'm think of a big, tall guy like a Toomer, To, Roy Williams, David Boston sized guy). And if Deltha falls off defensive prodcution, we can convert him to WR....(JUST KIDDING)!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrooks21 Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Isn't Warrick a free agent after this year? I wonder how all this will effect contract negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 If Warrick is 100% next spring I am guessing the Bengals would go so far as to tag him if someone else is going to offer him a big deal. Otherwise I assume his price will be very affordable. If he's completely healthy he'll be well worth signing, even at his current rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 By the way this year is quickly becoming another wash out. This team's going nowhere fast and we're stuck, yet again, at looking to the future - but this time it looks a lot more promising long term than it has in a long time so I'll live with it (IF Marvin has a good offseason). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted November 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 While this is a bummer, it is hardly a surprise. What I'd like to know is whether this is due to the "Shin" or the "Knee"?I think he has been undone since his knee got munched last season. It was never expressed how the re-hab was going, then was an immediate problem in mini-camp and traininng camp. The advent of the "Shin" injury begs the question of his long-term durability. I think P-Dub is a fine team player and not one who whines and complains the way Dillon used to. If a 2nd receiver does not step-up (TJ has played about as well as we could hope, especially since his head was being called for b/f season started, hammy in question) we need to go into free agancy, or draft and gt a nice WR who can compliment CJ (I'm think of a big, tall guy like a Toomer, To, Roy Williams, David Boston sized guy). And if Deltha falls off defensive prodcution, we can convert him to WR....(JUST KIDDING)!!! I'm 99% sure we'll draft a WR this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 I'm 99% sure we'll draft a WR this year.I'll see your 99% Skyline, and raise you another 1%, because I'm 100% sure it will happen. I'm just afraid it will happen too early, and take us away from helping the defensive line like we did last time in the draft by picking a running back at #1! We can all clearly see how that has effected the Bengals very negatively this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted November 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 I'm 99% sure we'll draft a WR this year.I'll see your 99% Skyline, and raise you another 1%, because I'm 100% sure it will happen. I'm just afraid it will happen too early, and take us away from helping the defensive line like we did last time in the draft by picking a running back at #1! We can all clearly see how that has effected the Bengals very negatively this season. Yep, you may be right...considerations for next year, though.I think they're happy with Thornton, and I am as well. I'm satisfied with him as our starter for the next few years. If Askew is ready to be a solid starter by the start of next year, then is our need at DT still quite so desperate? It's still a need for sure, but is it a 1st round need? Especially if you have the perfect compliment to Chad waiting in the first round...Now, that doesn't take into consideration that we will also be needing a DE and Center pretty desperately as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 We need a DT and a DE, along with a OG and a C before a WR will be addressed. A better fullback would be good too. Oh and a TE is more in need too. Shall i go on? We do not need a WR THAT badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 I believe good recievers a far more plentiful than the solidly talented defensive lineman or end that the Bengals (IMHO) are still in dire need of! Until we are rated far above our last place standing in run defense, the need won't be getting any less dire, that's for sure!Besides, with the new rules against downfield contact, it's much easier for your average 5th round or later "Joe Generic Wideout" to come into the league and be every bit as an effective offensive weapon as his earlier drafted, prima donna bretheren would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Besides, with the new rules against downfield contact, it's much easier for your average 5th round or later "Joe Generic Wideout" to come into the league and be every bit as an effective offensive weapon as his earlier drafted, prima donna bretheren would be!Oh you mean a weapon like TJ Houshmandzedah and Kelly Washington have been?WR needs to be picked in the first round. We are a couple players away from having an elite offense (TE, RB, WR). We are about 10 players away from having a good defense. Having a pair of WR, one who is in the top 5 in the league as far as I'm concerned, and the other one with the potential to be just as good, will cause so many problems for opposing teams.Let's just be like the colts for a while. They always make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 no a threat like warrick...oh wait, hes injured. He'll be back next year, we dont need a WR b4 round 5 or 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 no a threat like warrick...oh wait, hes injured. He'll be back next year, we dont need a WR b4 round 5 or 6.my buddy jditty...living proof weed and lucid thought aren't mutually exclusive!! LOL Oh you mean a weapon like TJ Houshmandzedah and Kelly Washington have been?WR needs to be picked in the first round.A common opinion of many people, but unfortunately not totally true. For example, if a WR with the talent of Terrell Owen is picked 89th overall late in 3rd round, then reason dictates guys picked a few rounds later AIN'T gonna be TOO shabby.Besides, as a Bengals fan you should realize by now that Cincy's biggest factor in any draft really isn't WHO'S available when our turn comes, but WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY ON THE PLAYER SELECTED with that pick! IMHO, the Bengals are unfortunately second to none in just plain poor evaluation of talent and ability of potential players. Hopefully Marvins presence will steadily begin to turn this around as his tenure grows as the Bengals Head Coach. But to me, it seemed we were reaching with last years #1 pick for RB Chris Perry. If it was, then that isn't very encouraging about Coach Lewis. It will probably be another draft or two before before anybody can really pass judgement on Marvins true ability here.Let's just be like the Colts for a while. They always make the playoffs.Quite true. They certainly do seem to always make the playoffs. That much about them I like a great deal. I mean c'mon...who wouldn't?But conversely, what else I believe to be true is that because of the Colts liability of having a weak defense (especially when compared to their offense!), making the playoffs for a game or so is far is they ever go! This is the thing about them I could probably do without! I consider it simply built in heartbreak that comes with this type of strong side/weak side football team makeup! And just between you and me...I'm still way over stocked with heartbreak from two previous Super Bowl losses that I don't care to discuss! ):IMO, for the Colt's to take it to the next level and finally make it into, much less win a Super Bowl, well I believe that actually hinges on their defense! If that unit ever improves enough to allow the offense off the hook of having no choice but to turn every game into a scoring shootout, THAT'S when I believe Peyton Manning will finally get his Super Bowl ring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted November 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see. You know Marvin's strategy is to take the best player available, regardless of need...we'll have to see where we're drafting and who's still on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincykent Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 By the way this year is quickly becoming another wash out. This team's going nowhere fast and we're stuck, yet again, at looking to the future - but this time it looks a lot more promising long term than it has in a long time so I'll live with it (IF Marvin has a good offseason). Nobody ever mentions that Kitna did not have to go through all these injuries like Palmer has this year. If you take Warrick away from Kitna last year he would have been average and they would have won 5 games instead of 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 no a threat like warrick...oh wait, hes injured. He'll be back next year, we dont need a WR b4 round 5 or 6.Exactly, why people are acting like Warrick's career is finished, is beyond me. He's one of the most exciting players to watch in the NFL IMO and look forward to Palmer having a full season under his belt as a starter and throwing to him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybengalsfan Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 What a disappointment! Not yet half of the season, and we have already given up, thinking ahead to next year...a ritual in the Queen City! I believe 60 Minutes needs to do an investigation into why the Bengals have so many injuries. Will we win another game this year with our "replacement team?" Geez, wish I would not have bought the season tickets; I find it difficult to get excited about seeing our guys being thrown to the lions for the rest of the season. Marvin will certainly have a few more gray hairs before this season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevnz Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 What a disappointment! Not yet half of the season, and we have already given up, thinking ahead to next year...a ritual in the Queen City! I believe 60 Minutes needs to do an investigation into why the Bengals have so many injuries. Will we win another game this year with our "replacement team?" Geez, wish I would not have bought the season tickets; I find it difficult to get excited about seeing our guys being thrown to the lions for the rest of the season. Marvin will certainly have a few more gray hairs before this season is over. Well if it was 60 minutes they'd find a way to blame President Bush and the Republican Party. But truth be known it's just dumb luck. We got away with only putting two people on the IR at all last year and that was right before the last game of the season. That's pretty damn amazing. This year we have made up for that bit of good luck. While we do have a large list of people on IR, we aren't the only team.Most of the injuries aren't conditioning related (Though I called P-dub getting a bad injury well before he ever did, someone was talking about how he was supposed to be so much faster cause he lost some more weight.....FAT IS PADDING FOLKS, you need some to prevent injury....) It's not field related cause that's been fixed (though maybe some of it is that the guys are expecting one thing but getting another?, not sure) At least one guy is there cause of dirty play, and it's possible that maybe one or two are "stashed" on IR cause the team doesn't want to cut them, but can't really use them this year (We wouldn't be the only ones guilty of that espn story )But truthfully, it's probably because you bought season tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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