offensive remedy?

[richmond_mat]

Bratkowski must go. (Frasier might need to be shown the door too, but I'm waiting on calling for his head.)

There's no other reason for our offense to be so bad other than the man running the offense stinks. This unit should be putting up 25+ points per week yet they look like a pop warner team on the field. Injuries have hurt, but the real reason is lousy coaching and worse play calling. :player:

[kevnz]

I'll second that. Give the job to Zampese!

[skyline]

I don't have a problem with Brat. We had a solid offense last year, and have shown the potential at times this year. The blame for our poor offense this year lays squarely on the shoulders off the o-line. The question is whether or not it is due to injuries, or personnel. Let's get the o-line fixed and our offense will be fine.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

I know, lets fire our coaching staff every year and start over again and again.

[HoosierCat]

Offensive remedy? IMHO:

1. Get Perry -- or even Watson -- in the game. Nothing against Rudi; I'm not convinced that ether of these guys would have any more success on the ground than him. But he isn't a big receiving threat, and the other two are.

2. Find someone who can work in the middle/underneath and put them in Warrick's slot hole. Schobel, Russell, Jeremi Johnson, Mike Brown's left gonad, I don't care. Someone. Anyone.

Last year, Warrick had 819 yards; in '02, pre-injury, CD had 298 through the air. Lots of those yards were check-downs, or dump-offs in the face of a blitz, or -- most importantly -- short yardage/red zone/goal line situations. And those are exactly the situations in which the Bengals are falling short now. Can't make the 1st. Can't score in the red zone. Holding the ball too long on the blitz.

If we're going to make Carson throw, throw, and throw (and it looks like we are) he needs more to work with than a bunch of speedy downfield receivers.

Just my $0.02.

[Kirkendall]

Personally, I believe the remedy is getting everyone back from injury (that includes the guys playing right now playing hurt) then making an educated decision. Since that won't satisfy anyone here, I'm going to second Sky and Joisey's responses; especially Joisey's first and second points.

[BengalBobNC]

JC...I agree on all counts!

[kybengalsfan]

BengalBob: I agree with your assessment of ML. I just wish he would hold the coordinators to the same standard that he holds the players: if they don't produce, get rid of them. Frazier is way too low-keyed to get the defense up for every game, especially away games. Brat has no creativity, what-so-ever. Yesterdays' fake punt was used well as us; when has Brat installed a play that was creative and gave us a needed first down? Fischer was going for the jugular; it worked.

[BengalBobNC]

KYBF: Point well taken. I hope he is holding them to a high standard. After this year is history, I wonder what changes we'll see.

[Barbarian]

Canning Drunkowski is the 1st step. He should have been gone LAST YEAR after the Arizona loss. Passing that much with a lead is inexcuseable.

Can Drunkowski. Then we talk more.

[jditty47]

only can him if we can get a good offensive coordinator from someone else, not zampese...also perry should play this week.

[Barbarian]

only can him if we can get a good offensive coordinator from someone else, not zampese...also perry should play this week.

Why??? Did something happen to Rudi??? Like I said, if Rudi gets injured or needs a breather--then they should play Perry. The kid is obviously still learning.

[jditty47]

i meant some snaps douchebag

[Scottishbengal]

The populist vote is to dump Bratowski.

Who do you bring in?

Another O-Co-ordinator would no doubt want to do things HIS way.

Another playbook, another scheme, another system, another way of doing things - all this may be too much for a rookie QB/offence to take in at once and could lead to being a backward step in the long run.

Marvin took over a massive job when he became HC. There's so much to fix that you can't do it all at once - one thing at a time.

Even the fans need fixing - after so many years of an unsuccessful team desire, need and expectations all get a shout before patience, and that is understandable.

[HoosierCat]

The populist vote is to dump Bratowski.

Who do you bring in?

Another O-Co-ordinator would no doubt want to do things HIS way.

Another playbook, another scheme, another system, another way of doing things - all this may be too much for a rookie QB/offence to take in at once and could lead to being a backward step in the long run.

Yup. And as someone mentioned on another thread, the constant shuffle of OC's didn't exactly help Carson out in college. Others have also pointed out how Kitna struggled under Brat's sytem in his first year. I just don't see how dumping Brat does us any good.

[kybengalsfan]

Maybe a little "micro-managing" would help from ML.

[Jonboat]

I don't have a problem with Brat.  We had a solid offense last year, and have shown the potential at times this year.  The blame for our poor offense this year lays squarely on the shoulders off the o-line.  The question is whether or not it is due to injuries, or personnel.  Let's get the o-line fixed and our offense will be fine.

I couldn't agree more !! I think the play calling is dictated by game situations. We put ourselves in too many pass situations because we can't pick up yrds running on 1rst & 2nd downs & shoot ourselves in the foot with too many penalties. Man you know they want to run the ball but it's hard to do when the O-line dont get the job done! GO BENGALS!!! Jonboat

[Bengal_Smoov]

Brat would look like a genius if the o-line could block better.

The defense hasn't played well since Marvin was hired except for a few games here and there, but more often than not they have been getting dominated. I say the scheme is flawed and Marvin needs do something. I tell you who I wish we had has dc instead of Frazier, Donnie Henderson. He gets his guys to play with some emotion, which does help when your trying to knock someone's head off. Frazier couldn't get a teenager on retalin excited, the guy is bland. How can you watch your unit get their asses kicked repeatedly and not show emotion, doesn't he care???? Obviously not, the defense hasn't improved, in fact they've gotten worse. One step forward, two steps back, that is the story of our defense.