The Brew Man Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Another stat of the day from Lance on 1360, whatta think?Rudi has now averaged less than 4.0 per carry in 10 his last 14 gamesRudi has averaged less than 3.0 yards per carry in 4 of his last 6 games.Here are his last 7 performances: rushes, yards and average17-55 yards 3.2 Chargers10-29 yards 2.9 Steelers4-10 yards 2.5 Ravens21-174 yards 8.3 SF11-30 yards 2.7 Rams14-52 yards 3.7 Browns20-74 yards 2.9 JetsLast year Rudi gained 54% of his 957 yards in just three games last year: 174,182,165His three top games last year vs rush defense ranking:Houston 31stKansas City 30thSan Francisco 9thTake out his three best games and here are his remaining numbers: 129-436 3.4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Bengal Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 So I guess we now know why he only got a one year deal.I think a healthy line will help but I wouldn't just look at the numbers, look at the TD's scored. Rudi was able to take pressure of the QB and was a threat to Defenses. He's a good solid back that is a team guy. I would rather have Rudi to Dillon's Bitchin anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Man Posted September 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 So I guess we now know why he only got a one year deal.I think a healthy line will help but I wouldn't just look at the numbers, look at the TD's scored. Rudi was able to take pressure of the QB and was a threat to Defenses. He's a good solid back that is a team guy. I would rather have Rudi to Dillon's Bitchin anyday. Me too, I guess I post this cause I wonder if its any cause for concern? While its true getting in the end zone is a huge deal, whos at fault for such low ypc stats? The Line? Rudi? Not a big deal, just looking for some opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBobNC Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 The front office probably wants to see what Rudi can do this year. Dillon was the same way. Big games and average games. I think Rudi is the real deal. The O-line did not open gapping holes all day for him to run through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 As far as yesterday, the Jets just got great penetration. There were a couple runs where he barely got the handoff before being hit. We need to get our o-line healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 I think it should be discussed that the possibility opposing teams are more focused on Rudi than last season because teams know our offense is as good as our running game. Corey 1, Cincy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Rudi: 16 carries for 70 yards, one touchdown, and one fumble.Corey: 15 carries for 86 yards, no touchdowns and no fumbles.Who the hell cares about 16 yards? The Jets defense at New York is far better than the Colts defense at Foxboro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 ya but corey contributed alot more than rudi did this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Rudi: 16 carries for 70 yards, one touchdown, and one fumble.Corey: 15 carries for 86 yards, no touchdowns and no fumbles.Who the hell cares about 16 yards? The Jets defense at New York is far better than the Colts defense at Foxboro. Where are you getting your stats? You missed Rudi's 8 other carries...And 16 yards, is 3rd and 4 in the 2nd quarter changing a field goal to a touchdown. Or taking a chunk out of the illegal crackback forcing a 1st and 22; instead passing minimal gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 How about the burst Kenny Watson had? Anyone else notice that?God, we have our RB 1st rounder on the bench with his hammy on ice instead of a DT/DE clogging the middle of the field and batting passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybengalsfan Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Hey, the offensive line was not stellar yesterday. I'd give them a C+ or B- because Rudi didn't have the holes or time to react. Also, Palmer was hurried quite a bit also. A slower QB would have been sacked more than once yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 My bad - 24 carries for 70 yards. But who cares? Rudi didn't have much room to run, and he still got 70 yards and a touchdown. Until Palmer strings together a few good games, defenses are going to load up against the run just as the Jets did on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevnz Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 I think it should be discussed that the possibility opposing teams are more focused on Rudi than last season because teams know our offense is as good as our running game. Corey 1, Cincy 0 But see Josh, that's not the case. The Jets focussed on stopping Rudi, and they did. Had our D actually went to the game it would have been a different story, we'd be talking about how Carson toasted the Jets D instead we are too busy worring about the D to really trully notice just how good Carson played yesterday.Already today I've read several NFL articles saying Carson impressed....Did anyone ever read anything like that about Akili? Anyone? Klingler??? Anyone???? I dare ya.The Jet's set out with the plan of stopping Rudi, they did just that and Palmer and crew made them regret it...if the D hadda played it would be a totally different story...Or if Rudi had held onto the ball, or if the BS ref whistle hadn't blown.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 I'm not ready to cast a vote yet, but the Perry pick makes a little more sense, and it also may be why the Bengals weren't quite ready to make him their feature-back for the next few years?I think Rudi will be ok, but he's certainly not proven himself yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Man Posted September 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I think it should be discussed that the possibility opposing teams are more focused on Rudi than last season because teams know our offense is as good as our running game. Corey 1, Cincy 0 Disagree. Look at his ypc averages from last year, except for the Niners game, they all look alot like yesterday. And I dont think it has anything to do with Corey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Bengal Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 I don't get the comparison to Rudi and Dillon. There isn't anything to compare. Dillon was done playing here, so any thing he does with the Pats is water under the bridge. It's not like the Bengals had a choice in which back to keep and which one to get rid of. Dillon made the choice for them. I say good luck and good riddance. Let the people of Boston find out what kind of A-hole he really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Last year Rudi gained 54% of his 957 yards in just three games last year: 174,182,165Um, didn't he only start 6 games last year? That stat is meaningless.If he can do that 3 games in one season that tells me he needs carries and he needs a real 0-line in front of him, he doesn't gaping holes like Dillon did or other backs do, just some competence.If I hear one more time how great this o-line here is, I'm going to puke, they've been bad for years. Paul Alexander is a joke of a coach, and Levi Jones is an overrated piece of poo and always has been and always will be.That is why Kiper and co. laughed at the Bengals for picking him where they did. Just another stupid Bengals' draft pick much like Perry was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 He played in 13 total games..Besides all of that, we need to see what Rudi does with a full season and no one behind him or in front of him foaming to take his job. After all that, then I think we can slam or praise the Rudi. If I hear one more time how great this o-line here is, I'm going to puke, they've been bad for years. Paul Alexander is a joke of a coach, and Levi Jones is an overrated piece of poo and always has been and always will be.Bengals were 13th in the NFL and 5th in the AFC rushing in 2003. More so in 2003, they were ranked 5th in least amount of sacks in the AFC. Clearly the line is better than league average with both those stats combined. I clearly understand the frustration, but this line has one of the league's best foundations. However, if your frustration is based on the Jets game, then wait till the line is healthy and Carson helps spread the Defense out a little more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TippCityRick Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Last year we were talking about how Rudi hit the hole faster than Corey. On Sunday, Rudi was hitting the hole like Corey did - reading and reacting. I'd prefer to see him go back to hitting the hole without looking around so much. Kenny hit the hole well on Sunday on the only carry I remember him having, but Rudi's hesitancy stood out as I watched the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Rudi will be fine. I've yet to see a RB who gains 100+ yards rushing 16 times a year in my lifetime.That six game stat is bunk, period, it's absolutely meaningless.I stand by the statement that this o-line is way overrated by the fans and Paul Alexander is a steaming pile of hot donkey poo, and that Levi Jones is a joke for a #10 over-all pick. Throw Frasier and Hunley in there and you've got a big ole' mess of poo that needs to be shoveled up and thrown out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBobNC Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Kenny hit the hole well on Sunday on the only carry I remember him having, but Rudi's hesitancy stood out as I watched the game.Kenny only had the one run and 1 or 2 catches. But if I remember the play correctly, it was a designed outside the left tackle run that the Bengals perfectly blocked. I have mentioned Kenny since that game and would love to see what else he can do. I'm sure the coaches are working him into this Sunday's game.Shhhhh! Don't tell Miami! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Rudi will be fine. I've yet to see a RB who gains 100+ yards rushing 16 times a year in my lifetime.That six game stat is bunk, period, it's absolutely meaningless.I stand by the statement that this o-line is way overrated by the fans and Paul Alexander is a steaming pile of hot donkey poo, and that Levi Jones is a joke for a #10 over-all pick. Throw Frasier and Hunley in there and you've got a big ole' mess of poo that needs to be shoveled up and thrown out. seriously what crack are you smoking? Levi has been awesome for us on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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