Black'n'Orange Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I can't find a decent fan forum/ message board for the Pats. I was interested in their perspective of the game. But, I can't find sh*t. Surely they have one. I've found a couple really bad ones. The general consensus is shock and denial. Big surprise, huh ............anyway, if anybody knows a link to a decent site, I would appreciate it :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I can't find a decent fan forum/ message board for the Pats. I was interested in their perspective of the game. But, I can't find sh*t. Surely they have one. I've found a couple really bad ones. The general consensus is shock and denial. Big surprise, huh ............anyway, if anybody knows a link to a decent site, I would appreciate it :player: Try this one.http://kffl.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black'n'Orange Posted August 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 You can also try patsfans.com, there's an active forum (nflfans) linked there, too. But the excuse birds are already in full throat; my favorite dissmiss-atribe so far is from this wanker:http://www.patsfans.com/bob/display_story.php?story_id=2476And no Bob, it isn't that hard to believe Rudi is a better back than Dillon. But you'll learn, m'boy, you will learn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 You can also try patsfans.com, there's an active forum (nflfans) linked there, too. But the excuse birds are already in full throat; my favorite dissmiss-atribe so far is from this wanker:http://www.patsfans.com/bob/display_story.php?story_id=2476And no Bob, it isn't that hard to believe Rudi is a better back than Dillon. But you'll learn, m'boy, you will learn... i like how that s**tty columnist calls the bengals inferior at every chance he can in the article. Who knows who is inferior this season. The season hasnt even began and hes claiming the patriots are superior to everyone just cuz they won last year. This isnt last year anymore. Bengals have a new makeup, so do the pats, im so sick of ppl living in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Bengal Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 The big issue here was that the normally stout defensive line got pushed around, something that never would have happened if the game were not for real. Boy is he gonna eat his words come december Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 What a great article! Apparently, Belichek is such a great coach that he would never let the team be unprepared for a real game. The lines are so great they would never play like crap during a real game. They didn't win because they weren't really trying. Right...I'm sure they didn't mind getting the crap kicked out of them by the lowly Bengals. Man, I'm just glad to be reading that kind of garbage from the other team's beat writers. A decade of that kind of excuse making is enough for me. Yeah, it doesn't matter who wins the game in the standings, but you don't want to get humiliated either. If the Pats really were just mailing that one in it reflects poorly on the coaches and the preparation. Oh yeah, and CD was still in the game deep into the 3rd. Ya think that was in the original game play or maybe to try to get him some yards so he didn't get so obviously punked by his old team? Kinda backfires when he puts the ball on the ground doesn't it? Didn't see much of 28 after that.Belichek called it like it was in the halftime interview when he said they were outplayed, outcoached & out prepared. It doesn't count, but it doesn't mean nothing either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Did anybody take the opportunity to talk back to Bob?? Maybe he needs a reminder that "on paper" his team never should have won the Super Bowl last year. That they were the inferior team against many of their opponents, but won because they were coached well and played well as a team. Kinda like how the Bengals played on Saturday. And, if he thinks the Bengals are going to goose-step into Foxboro thinking they are going to put another spanking on the Patriots then he really hasn't paid attention to how Lewis does things at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 It's a good piece. I think we would say the same things if we were beat by a team we expected to beat handedly; that it's just pre-season. Every team is allowed to say that at least one time.We beat them 31-3, that's enough for us. However, we still were moving the ball on them with our 2nd and 3rd team offense against their first team defense -- that speaks volumes.We'll see them again on December 12th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaBrownsFan Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Grats on your impressive win.. On the same thought though, don't think this means the Pats have lost it. Remember they got shutout like 31-0 in their season opener, then went on to win 14 games in the regular season. They are resilient and find a way to bounce back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Grats on your impressive win.. On the same thought though, don't think this means the Pats have lost it. Remember they got shutout like 31-0 in their season opener, then went on to win 14 games in the regular season. They are resilient and find a way to bounce back. No team wants to lose. Pre-season or not, it's just an excuse. All I know is that the Bengals won 31-3.I still think the Pats are the Super Bowl favorites though, they looked sad on Saturday, but we played damned near flawless too. So there's a balence between the two I guess. Thanks for the props florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I think we would say the same things if we were beat by a team we expected to beat handedly; that it's just pre-season. Every team is allowed to say that at least one time. Agreed, tho you gotta get a little when you're burning that one time so early. I think BengalbytheBay hit the nail on the head when he said, "A decade of that kind of excuse making is enough for me."I remember the Bengals getting blown up by the Bears early in preseason in 2002 (I think it was 2002, mite have been 2001), and then seeing the same kind of obfuscation, hand-waving, and unsupported assertion bandied about by the Bengals. The o-line, led by Big Willie, whined that the mean ol' Bears had blitzed them (what, you mean they actually came to play?). Coaches brushed aside the ease with which the o-line had been brushed aside, explaining airily that "we hadn't installed the blitz protection packages yet," and assured us it was only preseason" and things would get fixed. Well, of course, they didn't.I remember a 2002 Bengals club that was all p*ss 'n' vinegar in training camp, coming off a 6-10 season with a strong finish and being blessed by the media as a "black horse" playoff candidate. They spent a lot of time jabbering and preening but not, apparently, practicing, and the coaches seemed unwilling or unable to get their attention. And we all know how that turned out.And I heard some echoes of that reading this piece from the Pats site: http://www.patsfans.com/kevin/display_stor...p?story_id=2471Especially:“We didn’t coach well. We didn’t play well. We got totally outclassed…The team wasn’t ready to play,” said a sullen Coach Bill Belichick afterwards. I suppose we should have seen the warning signs coming before the game. For starters, Ty Law once again created a distraction when he sat out practice for a few days after not receiving his $107,000 workout bonus from the team. Belichick had the team running laps for being sloppy in practice. Then he expressed his displeasure after looking at the film from the Eagles game and said the team didn’t play any better than a “junior high team.” At the time, I took this as Belichick trying to create something out of nothing in order to get his team to re-focus. If he were honest with us (and the Providence Journal’s Tom Curran who asked him about this in the post-game press conference), he would tell us that he saw this whooping coming a mile away.I think Rousseau is on the money. This game may be as dismissable as his buddy Bob thinks. Or it could be a signal that something very, very ugly is about to begin unless the Pats turn off ESPN, pull their heads out of the collective butts, and get to work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules... Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 ...great job fellas...i didn't get a chance to catch the game live, just read about it afterwards ... but it sounds like you all were very impressive...i hope the jets were paying attention...l_j_r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 ...great job fellas...i didn't get a chance to catch the game live, just read about it afterwards ... but it sounds like you all were very impressive...i hope the jets were paying attention...l_j_r Believe me, some of us were paying attention to the beating the Jets gave the Colts, too. It will be very interesting...yes, very interesting indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 I remember the Bengals getting blown up by the Bears early in preseason in 2002 (I think it was 2002, mite have been 2001), and then seeing the same kind of obfuscation, hand-waving, and unsupported assertion bandied about by the Bengals. Obfuscation !?!?!? Damn, I had to look that Sh*t up !! This site is amazing, I probably could have gone the rest of my life without knowing that word. Spend a little time on this forum and you learn more than football, that's for sure.Great post!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Seriously, we a kid could come on this site at 6 years old and have a complete Florida education, if not better, in a matter of 18 months. We range from 1st grade (Barb) to high school (Joisey) to Ivy League ed-ju-ma-cation (me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 ill take the regular university knowledge category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Believe me, some of us were paying attention to the beating the Jets gave the Colts, too. That Jets arse whipping vs. the Colts.That was just a pre-season game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTibbs Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 http://www.riinteractive.net/nefan/http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/http://www.patsfans.com/ (one of the best)http://kffl.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=26http://patriots.theinsiders.com/index.htmlPatriots fans are not in denial. We do know that during the regular season the Bengals would get crushed. Palmer got ZERO schemes in that game. The Patriots stopped Manning cold with 4 picks and 5 sacks. Do you really think Palmer could do better? Yes they did play horrid but if I were a betting man I doubt Palmer would play that good against a midseason Patriot team along with a "REAL" gameplan. It's going to be a hoot when december comes and they remember the preseason game. Ask the Bills fans about week one last season. The Patriots never forget. The Bengals wil be a good team but not that good. Good preseason win though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Patriots fans are not in denial. We do know that during the regular season the Bengals would get crushed Well we won't know the real answer to that issue until December in Foxboro, now will we? Thanks for the good Patriot links, and welcome to the the 'Zone Mr. Tibbs.See you again come December? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusruss Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Did anybody take the opportunity to talk back to Bob?? Maybe he needs a reminder that "on paper" his team never should have won the Super Bowl last year. That they were the inferior team against many of their opponents, but won because they were coached well and played well as a team. Kinda like how the Bengals played on Saturday. And, if he thinks the Bengals are going to goose-step into Foxboro thinking they are going to put another spanking on the Patriots then he really hasn't paid attention to how Lewis does things at all. Here is the feedback I sent to that Bob guy...You said that it is hard to believe that Rudi Johnson is a better back than Corey Dillon. Why is that hard to believe? That like saying it is hard to believe that Tom Brady is a better QB than Drew Bledsoe. Corey got hurt, Rudi stepped in, and when Corey got better he lost his starting job. Sounds familier, doesn't it? The only difference is that the Bengals were smart enough not to trade Corey to a division rival. Enjoy your run with Corey Dillon. I opnly hope that he was sent to your team with a bottle of Excedrin, because you'll need it.Just thought I'd share that with ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 MrTibbs:Patriots fans are not in denial. We do know that during the regular season the Bengals would get crushed.Irony, thy name is MrTibbs. Your second sentence demolishes your first. How do you "know" the Bengals would be crushed? That's precisely the type of hubris I was talking about earlier. Remember, pride goeth before the fall.The Bengals wil be a good team but not that good.This has nothing to do with the Bengals, this has to do with a Patriots club that seemed barely awake. Go back and read espn.com's Pats camp report (weeks old) and you'll find a couple of impressions by Lenny that the players are just going through the motions so far (which he quickly dismisses; after all, how can this be true?). Now this poor outing after a week in which Belichick apparently made numerous efforts to slap these guys back to consciousness.I get the distinct feeling that the Patriots players are beginning to believe, or at least listen too much too, their own PR. Admittedly, it's hard to avoid. They were anointed most likely to return five minutes after the end of the last Super Bowl. After they acquired Dillon in the offseasason, sports media far and wide declared this was the "final piece" that would guarantee another Super Bowl title. BoSox trade away a star player? No matter, the local media now exalts Tom Brady as the new face of sports in Boston. Click on espn or sportsline, there they are atop the preseason power polls. Go to sports illustrated's site and read the latest MMQB column by Peter King, in which he performs a Monica Lewinsky Special on Belichick in print. And on and on and on it goes.Something similar happened to the bengals back in '02, when they let a lot of preseason talk about the playoffs go to their heads. Looking back now, it's easy to see that by the end of camp they were not just looking past the opener (in which they got creamed by the Chargers) but were looking past the whole season. Mentally, they had already put themselves in the playoffs. That was when the "real thing" would begin. This piddling regular season was just something to be endured, a foregone conclusion. After all, they were the anointed ones, right? Well, they got anointed, all right...right between the eyes with a sledgehammer, all season long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Now this poor outing after a week in which Belichick apparently made numerous efforts to slap these guys back to consciousness.I get the distinct feeling that the Patriots players are beginning to believe, or at least listen too much too, their own PR. All of this after one, meaningless preseason game in August?To try and draw any conclusions of how the Patriots will fare this year based on Saturday nights performance is totally absurd.You really think you saw the Pats "real" defense Saturday? They just sat back in a vanilla-coated 3-4 defense with minimal blitz's and ZERO schemes.Not to take anything away from the Bengals dominating physical performance, but come December, Carson Palmer will be so confused with what he will see he'll have that deer-in-the-headlights look.If Belichick and company can confuse Payton Manning (he is 1-9 against BB and has never won in Foxboro) can you imagine what he will do to a rookie QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarian Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Now this poor outing after a week in which Belichick apparently made numerous efforts to slap these guys back to consciousness.I get the distinct feeling that the Patriots players are beginning to believe, or at least listen too much too, their own PR.All of this after one, meaningless preseason game in August?To try and draw any conclusions of how the Patriots will fare this year based on Saturday nights performance is totally absurd.You really think you saw the Pats "real" defense Saturday? They just sat back in a vanilla-coated 3-4 defense with minimal blitz's and ZERO schemes.Not to take anything away from the Bengals dominating physical performance, but come December, Carson Palmer will be so confused with what he will see he'll have that deer-in-the-headlights look.If Belichick and company can confuse Payton Manning (he is 1-9 against BB and has never won in Foxboro) can you imagine what he will do to a rookie QB? Ok. Nice shootin', Tex. I've been saying all along on how not to get all pumped up because of the Vanilla Schemes the Patties threw at the Bungles' Offense. I agree there.However, how do you know that Carson will be totally confused??? His development seems to be doing just fine. Going from 3 for 8 the first preseason game to 11 for 17 (wasn't it???) and 3 TDs. That's some development, wouldn't you agree???Plus, don't compare Carson Palmer to that big ass choker over there in Indy. That's not right. I can hear Peyton Manning gagging all the way here down South!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black'n'Orange Posted August 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 All of this after one, meaningless preseason game in August?To try and draw any conclusions of how the Patriots will fare this year based on Saturday nights performance is totally absurd. Meaningless? Maybe. I think thats kind of the take Marvin and company are going with. Yes, we had a big win, dominated in every aspect of the game, and looked like a hungry powerful team. But, its just a pre-season game and lets stay focused.However, for a meaningless pre-season game, it sure ruffled alot of feathers over in the Patriots camp.Patriots better get motivated fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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