cincyhokie Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 WR was dumb not to at least have a backup plan, but Eifert went down in preseason, hard to go get someone at that time.I would have re-signed Orson Charles and put him back at TE. But I'm not the personnel guy for the Bengals, so...The Orson Charles to FB exeriment was really dumb. When they needed a FB, you get a FB. Charles was an excellent TE in college. Just a massive misguided waste.He'd been on New Orleans practice squad, so he could have been easily plucked. Considering they had Eifert as the IR eligible, sounds again like a bit of bad medical work thinking hed be able to come back when it was clear he'd be done, furhter handcuffing the team at TE, with only Gresham and Brock as TEs since Game 2.Again, they've got McCarron as the 3rd QB taking up a valuable spot they sould have used for folks who can help Dalton make plays.The Eifert decision didn't hamper them from getting another TE. I'm pretty sure that's what happened with Brock after Eifert went down.AJ McCarron had to take a roster spot because he'd get plucked from the PS. If you want to get Dalton weapons, don't give him Tatezenbacher and crew. Cut one of them and give him something else. Don't cut McCarron because of roster mismanagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 WR was dumb not to at least have a backup plan, but Eifert went down in preseason, hard to go get someone at that time.I would have re-signed Orson Charles and put him back at TE. But I'm not the personnel guy for the Bengals, so...The Orson Charles to FB exeriment was really dumb. When they needed a FB, you get a FB. Charles was an excellent TE in college. Just a massive misguided waste.He'd been on New Orleans practice squad, so he could have been easily plucked. Considering they had Eifert as the IR eligible, sounds again like a bit of bad medical work thinking hed be able to come back when it was clear he'd be done, furhter handcuffing the team at TE, with only Gresham and Brock as TEs since Game 2.Again, they've got McCarron as the 3rd QB taking up a valuable spot they sould have used for folks who can help Dalton make plays.The Eifert decision didn't hamper them from getting another TE. I'm pretty sure that's what happened with Brock after Eifert went down.AJ McCarron had to take a roster spot because he'd get plucked from the PS. If you want to get Dalton weapons, don't give him Tatezenbacher and crew. Cut one of them and give him something else. Don't cut McCarron because of roster mismanagement.They signed Brock when Alex Smith went down. Eifert going down but being deignated to return was the possible error. Perhaps they really thought he'd be back...As for McCarron, they should have placed him on IR. they'd never expose him to the PS. Why they kept him on the roster when they had zero reason to do so seems silly in hindsight.It was clear that they needed more weapons during the stretches when AJ was out (factoring Jones also being out). I think anyone looking at Dane, Tate and the like could see it was thin. Only having Gresham and Brock was also poor. Again, that they didn't snag one of the high-upside WRs, and instead went with a guy like Clarke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yep, have no idea why they didn't IR McCarron when they had the chance. You knew he wasn't going to play.How they didn't know they were going to have concerns at WR is baffling. Hamilton blew his chance when it was being handed to him and then there was nothing. AJ hurt his toe early in the season and said he wouldn't be 100% percent until 2015. Hawkins was gone and Jones was hurt. People being surprised by a down year (stat wise) from Dalton need to look at that situation a little closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 WR was dumb not to at least have a backup plan, but Eifert went down in preseason, hard to go get someone at that time.I would have re-signed Orson Charles and put him back at TE. But I'm not the personnel guy for the Bengals, so...The Orson Charles to FB exeriment was really dumb. When they needed a FB, you get a FB. Charles was an excellent TE in college. Just a massive misguided waste.He'd been on New Orleans practice squad, so he could have been easily plucked. Considering they had Eifert as the IR eligible, sounds again like a bit of bad medical work thinking hed be able to come back when it was clear he'd be done, furhter handcuffing the team at TE, with only Gresham and Brock as TEs since Game 2.Again, they've got McCarron as the 3rd QB taking up a valuable spot they sould have used for folks who can help Dalton make plays.The Eifert decision didn't hamper them from getting another TE. I'm pretty sure that's what happened with Brock after Eifert went down.AJ McCarron had to take a roster spot because he'd get plucked from the PS. If you want to get Dalton weapons, don't give him Tatezenbacher and crew. Cut one of them and give him something else. Don't cut McCarron because of roster mismanagement.They signed Brock when Alex Smith went down. Eifert going down but being deignated to return was the possible error. Perhaps they really thought he'd be back...As for McCarron, they should have placed him on IR. they'd never expose him to the PS. Why they kept him on the roster when they had zero reason to do so seems silly in hindsight.It was clear that they needed more weapons during the stretches when AJ was out (factoring Jones also being out). I think anyone looking at Dane, Tate and the like could see it was thin. Only having Gresham and Brock was also poor. Again, that they didn't snag one of the high-upside WRs, and instead went with a guy like Clarke...Agreed.Skyline wanted evidence of roster mismanagement. Here you go. Well, at least it's perceived mismanagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 If you want to get Dalton weapons, don't give him Tatezenbacher and crew. Cut one of them and give him something else. Don't cut McCarron because of roster mismanagement. get all cheap-assed over a measly $700k and put a freaking second-round tender on Andrew Hawkins!!!!Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 If you want to get Dalton weapons, don't give him Tatezenbacher and crew. Cut one of them and give him something else. Don't cut McCarron because of roster mismanagement. get all cheap-assed over a measly $700k and put a freaking second-round tender on Andrew Hawkins!!!!Fixed. Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Alot of good stuff in this thread. And no more excuses! Taking responsibility for what is defunct and looking at solutions. Now, if the Bengals would get more proactive and make some of this happen, that'd be great.Interesting quote from Lewis today, via Dehner's twitter:"We have to be short-triggered on guys who can't do it the right way for us. It affects the QB adversely."Would love to have more context on that comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregcook68 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Alot of good stuff in this thread. And no more excuses! Taking responsibility for what is defunct and looking at solutions. Now, if the Bengals would get more proactive and make some of this happen, that'd be great.Interesting quote from Lewis today, via Dehner's twitter:"We have to be short-triggered on guys who can't do it the right way for us. It affects the QB adversely."Would love to have more context on that comment.Get them out quick if it isn't happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Alot of good stuff in this thread. And no more excuses! Taking responsibility for what is defunct and looking at solutions. Now, if the Bengals would get more proactive and make some of this happen, that'd be great.Interesting quote from Lewis today, via Dehner's twitter:"We have to be short-triggered on guys who can't do it the right way for us. It affects the QB adversely."Would love to have more context on that comment.Get them out quick if it isn't happening?Yeah, but get who out quick and when? Reading the transcript Lewis was referring to guys on offense who can't get lined up right pre snap, so that Dalton has to stop what he's doing (reading the defense, presumably) and get people lined up right. If that's actually an issue that's another huge indictment of the position coaches.I remember stories from years ago about Palmer screaming at Simpson to get out of his huddle because he didn't know the plays. That was always chalked up to him being a meathead but this suggests there's a deeper problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah, but get who out quick and when? Reading the transcript Lewis was referring to guys on offense who can't get lined up right pre snap, so that Dalton has to stop what he's doing (reading the defense, presumably) and get people lined up right. If that's actually an issue that's another huge indictment of the position coaches.I remember stories from years ago about Palmer screaming at Simpson to get out of his huddle because he didn't know the plays. That was always chalked up to him being a meathead but this suggests there's a deeper problem.I'm guessing Tate and Gresham are 2 possible culprits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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