BoilerBengal Posted July 25, 2004 Report Posted July 25, 2004 Just wondering what you guys thought about trading Rudi Johnson to Miami for something worthwhile since Miami is in desperate need of a RB after the retirement of Ricky Williams. I mean we dont just draft a first round RB to be a backup and third down back, and Rudi's contract is up this year. I think it'd be a great idea to pick up an extra first round pick and possibly a defensive player from Miami. The Dolphins will probably give up alot since they are so desperate. I think Marvin should look into it. Just a thought... Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 25, 2004 Report Posted July 25, 2004 Just wondering what you guys thought about trading Rudi Johnson to Miami for something worthwhile since Miami is in desperate need of a RB after the retirement of Ricky Williams. I mean we dont just draft a first round RB to be a backup and third down back, and Rudi's contract is up this year. I think it'd be a great idea to pick up an extra first round pick and possibly a defensive player from Miami. The Dolphins will probably give up alot since they are so desperate. I think Marvin should look into it. Just a thought... First off, welcome to the 'Zone Boiler.I'm not comfortable with the thought of giving up Rudi, and I don't think Marvin would be either. Now any other backs besides Johnson or Perry, and I might be interested, as long as the Bengals pick up an IMPACT player.Basically...if we can get a steal from Miami, (which I really doubt) DO IT! Quote
Tiger Stripes Posted July 25, 2004 Report Posted July 25, 2004 i dont think it would be a good idea i mean we need rudi at least for this year plus dave whatever (miami coach) was on sportscenter and he seemed pretty comfortable. now maybe we could trade perry... that could be something to think about. but i dont see any trades happening. Quote
skyline Posted July 25, 2004 Report Posted July 25, 2004 Also, don't forget that the Dolphins are probably hopeful that they can get him back. His mood seems to change with the wind, so who knows what they can talk him into... Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 25, 2004 Report Posted July 25, 2004 now maybe we could trade perry... that could be something to think about. but i dont see any trades happening. Nobody trades their 1st round draft pick without giving them a try, aside from the Chargers/Giants deal on draft day, but the reason there is more than obvious! Quote
bengalsfan33 Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 The Bengals would not get rid of Rudi. He is the future of this team. Quote
schweinhart Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 If Ogunleye and a 2nd rounder were on the table, the future for Rudi might be up in the air. But I hope not. I'm looking real forward to watching Rudi slug it out all year w/o Dillon around to soil things for Rudi. Quote
AGrizzlyBaer Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 welcome boiler bengal, are you a purdue guy too? Quote
wookie Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 Sorry, but I don't see a trade with Miami coming. Ogunleye would be an amazing pick up for the Bengals, but we need Johnson this year at least. The way Shula went off on the last thread that mentioned Rudi leaving I'm surprised I haven't seen a response here yet. Good luck!! Quote
Tiger Stripes Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 now maybe we could trade perry... that could be something to think about. but i dont see any trades happening.Nobody trades their 1st round draft pick without giving them a try, aside from the Chargers/Giants deal on draft day, but the reason there is more than obvious! all im saying is i would trade perry before rudi but id rather keep them both but as of right now im more of a rudi fan. Quote
kevnz Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 Maybe they'll make a trade for Skip Hicks...We don't need him and Miami needs a back, bad. Something like a conditional 4th rounder....nothing fancy, but let's be honest here folks. Miami is in serious need of running back help. their whole offense revolves around the running game.Of course, they wouldn't be in this mess if they knew how to draft and stopped trading their picks away. Quote
wookie Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 Hicks may be a possibility, the Dolphins only option now is Travis Minor so Hicks could be very attractive after his season in Europe. The players that were mentioned were Trung Candidate and James Stewart, but both were said not to be in the Dolphins sites. As far as trades, they figured Buffalo had the talent to deal, but that they didn't see a division rival handing over a RB. That left the Raiders with Hambrick, Zereoue, Wheatly, and Fargas as possible trading partners. If that doesn't work out I don't see why the Dolphins wouldn't look into geting Hicks or maybe Watson. It would probably get them just as good a RB as the trade with the Raiders, but since the Raiders RBs are higher profile, and they'd have to deal with Al Davis it would cost them more than dealing with Mikey and Co. Quote
chrishcovga Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 The only real options are trading Watson or Hicks. 1. Hicks is a big back around 230 which would suit Wannstedts' plans in Miami for power running .2. Watson had some decent stats in washington a couple of seasons ago, and skill wise he should be comparable to anything they have on their Roster.As for Rudi' or Perry - nah, Ain't gonna happen, now if Ogunleye was tossed into the trade mix, it would be awful temptin'... Quote
richmond_mat Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 The only real options are trading Watson or Hicks. 1. Hicks is a big back around 230 which would suit Wannstedts' plans in Miami for power running .2. Watson had some decent stats in washington a couple of seasons ago, and skill wise he should be comparable to anything they have on their Roster.As for Rudi' or Perry - nah, Ain't gonna happen, now if Ogunleye was tossed into the trade mix, it would be awful temptin'... Who dey! :player: Quote
CTBengalsFan Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 why would you be so quick to trade rudi? you have no idea whether or not perry will pan out into a good back. everyone seems to be assuming he will be, but that's something that's yet to be seen. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 While I don't see trading Rudi or Perry as an option, I think we are looking like a team with such an outstanding O-line that we could put anyone behind it and expect 1200 yards easy. If that Ogund whats his name guy were in the mix, I would jump through hoops in excitment, however, he is demanding BIG dollars. Could we work that kind of a contract ?? I don't know, just food for thought. I still don't see it happening.WHODEY !!! Quote
Barbarian Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 Just wondering what you guys thought about trading Rudi Johnson to Miami for something worthwhile since Miami is in desperate need of a RB after the retirement of Ricky Williams. I mean we dont just draft a first round RB to be a backup and third down back, and Rudi's contract is up this year. I think it'd be a great idea to pick up an extra first round pick and possibly a defensive player from Miami. The Dolphins will probably give up alot since they are so desperate. I think Marvin should look into it. Just a thought... Some of you posters here are crazy!!! I'm definitely not comfortable with giving Rudi to Miami and relying on a "could be" (Perry) and a "NFL Europe Hero" (Hicks).I'm saying NO, NAH, NO, NO, NO. Quote
The Brew Man Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 Yeah, can I add a no "freakin" way to that......geesh Quote
Black'n'Orange Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 No Rudi trade! ......maybe Skip Hicks Quote
Kirkendall Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 If Miami is really interested, which I don't think they are, and if they offer a first rounder (which I don't think they will) or a 2-3 starters on defense, then you have pull the trigger. It will only help the team later down the road and obviously if every trusts Marvin on Palmer, then you have to trust him on Chris Perry.BUT, I think Ricky Williams will be back with Miami before the first game of the season. Seriously, Williams is not right in the head. He'll come around.... Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 If Miami is really interested, which I don't think they are, and if they offer a first rounder (which I don't think they will) or a 2-3 starters on defense, then you have pull the trigger. It will only help the team later down the road and obviously if every trusts Marvin on Palmer, then you have to trust him on Chris Perry.BUT, I think Ricky Williams will be back with Miami before the first game of the season. Seriously, Williams is not right in the head. He'll come around.... Ricky chose to smoke more pot instead of playing football. He won't be back.As for "trading" for Hicks, why on earth would they do that? By the end of the preseason, we will cut Goodman, Hicks, and/or Watson. There is no question about that. We aren't the only ones who will cut a good running back either. The Raiders have a huge stable of running backs, and will likely cut one by the time the season starts.Miami will either pounce on a cut, or make a trade with the Eagles for Westbrook or Buckhalter LONG before they come our way. Quote
wookie Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 Miami will most likely wait for the cuts, I think the Eagles would be asking too much for either Westbrook or Buckhalter for them to pursue a trade. The Bengals may cut Goodman, probably will, but not Hicks and Watson. They will want to keep some RBs for depth and special teams, maybe even sign one of them to the practice squad. Quote
Scottishbengal Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 I mean we dont just draft a first round RB to be a backup and third down back, And you don't pick a QB No.1 to have him sit as second or even third string either I suppose?This year the offence will need to keep the pressure off of Palmer. With the no. 1 running game (Rudi), the no.2 running game (Perry) and the no.3 running game (Perry as a receiver) I think that gives the plenty of options for the offence and plenty of headaches for the opposition defence.Rudi has a big contract to play for in a system that did well for him last year. The Bengals don't need to lessen their armoury at all.It aint gonna happen. Quote
Kirkendall Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 Rudi has a big contract to play for in a system that did well for him last year. Not to mention, everytime Rudi looks behind his back, there's Chris Perry smiling. Quote
bengalsfan33 Posted July 26, 2004 Report Posted July 26, 2004 The Bengals better not trade either one of them. They both are the future of this team and the Bengals must have them. Quote
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