Munoz rated No. 12 in NFL's Top 100

[jjakq27]

http://top100.nfl.com/?module=HP_cp2

1. WR Jerry Rice
2. RB Jim Brown
3. LB Lawrence Taylor
4. QB Joe Montana
5. RB Walter Payton
6. QB Johnny Unitas
7. DL Reggie White
8. QB Peyton Manning
9. WR Don Hutson
10. LB Dick Butkus
11. DB Ronnie Lott
12. T Anthony Munoz

Former Head Coach Forrest Greeg was No. 54 as a player with the Packers.

Payton Manning, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Ray Lewis, LaDanian Tomlinson, Tony Gonzalez, Randy Moss and Ed Reed are active players that made it. No sign of TO or Ocho though.

[Spor_tees]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

[Stripes]

It's a pretty pointless, arbitrary list. Nice to see Munoz remembered so fondly though.

[cincyhokie]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

[Spor_tees]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

Psuedophedrine which gives you an energy boost is a banned substance in the NFL. To say cocaine would not give even a greater effect than psuedophedrine would be crazy. Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

[BengalszoneBilly]

Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

Not after you check your bank account after a weekend binge.

[cincyhokie]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

Psuedophedrine which gives you an energy boost is a banned substance in the NFL. To say cocaine would not give even a greater effect than psuedophedrine would be crazy. Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

There's a significant "crash" that comes with doing cocaine even though there is an "energy" burst. However, I've heard it described as more of a "thinking" type of energy than a physical burst. Amphetamines could be effective, as shown by years of use with baseball players. Cocaine is a drug that has a correlation with people who deal with depression and it may be used in a "self medicating" manner.

Lawrence Taylor was not using cocaine to play better on the field.

[Spor_tees]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

Psuedophedrine which gives you an energy boost is a banned substance in the NFL. To say cocaine would not give even a greater effect than psuedophedrine would be crazy. Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

There's a significant "crash" that comes with doing cocaine even though there is an "energy" burst. However, I've heard it described as more of a "thinking" type of energy than a physical burst. Amphetamines could be effective, as shown by years of use with baseball players. Cocaine is a drug that has a correlation with people who deal with depression and it may be used in a "self medicating" manner.

Lawrence Taylor was not using cocaine to play better on the field.

Does it matter why you are taking it, if it does give you some kind of advantage? Players might want to take pseudophedrine for sinus infections...but they can't because it is banned for being a Performance enhancing drug. There are several other substances on that list that are used for various ailments not related to football. Lawerence Taylor was also know for using crack, and who knows what else. Have you ever read a story about how hard it was for a cop to deal with a suspect who is under the influence of drugs? They have super-human strength, they are oblivious to pain, and some time pepper sprays and tasers won't even work on them. Sounds to me like that would help a football player.

[cincyhokie]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

Psuedophedrine which gives you an energy boost is a banned substance in the NFL. To say cocaine would not give even a greater effect than psuedophedrine would be crazy. Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

There's a significant "crash" that comes with doing cocaine even though there is an "energy" burst. However, I've heard it described as more of a "thinking" type of energy than a physical burst. Amphetamines could be effective, as shown by years of use with baseball players. Cocaine is a drug that has a correlation with people who deal with depression and it may be used in a "self medicating" manner.

Lawrence Taylor was not using cocaine to play better on the field.

Does it matter why you are taking it, if it does give you some kind of advantage? Players might want to take pseudophedrine for sinus infections...but they can't because it is banned for being a Performance enhancing drug. There are several other substances on that list that are used for various ailments not related to football. Lawerence Taylor was also know for using crack, and who knows what else. Have you ever read a story about how hard it was for a cop to deal with a suspect who is under the influence of drugs? They have super-human strength, they are oblivious to pain, and some time pepper sprays and tasers won't even work on them. Sounds to me like that would help a football player.

Crack is cocaine. Just a different form.

Cocaine's effects are very short-lived. It would help someone for maybe half a quarter if it helped at all. Lawrence Taylor did not use cocaine to help his play.

[cincyhokie]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

Psuedophedrine which gives you an energy boost is a banned substance in the NFL. To say cocaine would not give even a greater effect than psuedophedrine would be crazy. Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

There's a significant "crash" that comes with doing cocaine even though there is an "energy" burst. However, I've heard it described as more of a "thinking" type of energy than a physical burst. Amphetamines could be effective, as shown by years of use with baseball players. Cocaine is a drug that has a correlation with people who deal with depression and it may be used in a "self medicating" manner.

Lawrence Taylor was not using cocaine to play better on the field.

Does it matter why you are taking it, if it does give you some kind of advantage? Players might want to take pseudophedrine for sinus infections...but they can't because it is banned for being a Performance enhancing drug. There are several other substances on that list that are used for various ailments not related to football. Lawerence Taylor was also know for using crack, and who knows what else. Have you ever read a story about how hard it was for a cop to deal with a suspect who is under the influence of drugs? They have super-human strength, they are oblivious to pain, and some time pepper sprays and tasers won't even work on them. Sounds to me like that would help a football player.

I think the reason that pseudoephedrine is banned is because it can cause a positive drug screen for amphetamines.

[Spor_tees]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

Psuedophedrine which gives you an energy boost is a banned substance in the NFL. To say cocaine would not give even a greater effect than psuedophedrine would be crazy. Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

There's a significant "crash" that comes with doing cocaine even though there is an "energy" burst. However, I've heard it described as more of a "thinking" type of energy than a physical burst. Amphetamines could be effective, as shown by years of use with baseball players. Cocaine is a drug that has a correlation with people who deal with depression and it may be used in a "self medicating" manner.

Lawrence Taylor was not using cocaine to play better on the field.

Does it matter why you are taking it, if it does give you some kind of advantage? Players might want to take pseudophedrine for sinus infections...but they can't because it is banned for being a Performance enhancing drug. There are several other substances on that list that are used for various ailments not related to football. Lawerence Taylor was also know for using crack, and who knows what else. Have you ever read a story about how hard it was for a cop to deal with a suspect who is under the influence of drugs? They have super-human strength, they are oblivious to pain, and some time pepper sprays and tasers won't even work on them. Sounds to me like that would help a football player.

Crack is cocaine. Just a different form.

Cocaine's effects are very short-lived. It would help someone for maybe half a quarter if it helped at all. Lawrence Taylor did not use cocaine to help his play.

You are kind of missing the point. Who knows what other drugs he did. These are just the drugs he admitted to. He also admitted he had other players give him urine for drug tests. You don't think he maybe used steroids too? Maybe some heroin? In an interview with 60 minutes he said drug dealers would come up to him and give him free samples of different drugs all the time, just to try and get "in" with him. Who knows what those were.

I think some of these list are starting to take into account the possible drug usage of some of the past great players. You would think some of those great defensive players from the 70's would be ranked higher on the list, but maybe the rampant use of steroids during that period has effected that. Mike Webster who some consider the best center of all time was 68th on that list and not even ranked in the top 100 by the fans.

[cincyhokie]

Is it really fair to put Lawerence Taylor so high on a list like that, when it has pretty much come to light that he was on drugs most of the time that he played?

Although some people would argue that cocaine is a "performance enhancing drug" it's not. Lawrence Taylor would have been dominant sober, stoned, or drunk.

Psuedophedrine which gives you an energy boost is a banned substance in the NFL. To say cocaine would not give even a greater effect than psuedophedrine would be crazy. Plus doesn't a person on cocaine feel less pain?

There's a significant "crash" that comes with doing cocaine even though there is an "energy" burst. However, I've heard it described as more of a "thinking" type of energy than a physical burst. Amphetamines could be effective, as shown by years of use with baseball players. Cocaine is a drug that has a correlation with people who deal with depression and it may be used in a "self medicating" manner.

Lawrence Taylor was not using cocaine to play better on the field.

Does it matter why you are taking it, if it does give you some kind of advantage? Players might want to take pseudophedrine for sinus infections...but they can't because it is banned for being a Performance enhancing drug. There are several other substances on that list that are used for various ailments not related to football. Lawerence Taylor was also know for using crack, and who knows what else. Have you ever read a story about how hard it was for a cop to deal with a suspect who is under the influence of drugs? They have super-human strength, they are oblivious to pain, and some time pepper sprays and tasers won't even work on them. Sounds to me like that would help a football player.

Crack is cocaine. Just a different form.

Cocaine's effects are very short-lived. It would help someone for maybe half a quarter if it helped at all. Lawrence Taylor did not use cocaine to help his play.

You are kind of missing the point. Who knows what other drugs he did. These are just the drugs he admitted to. He also admitted he had other players give him urine for drug tests. You don't think he maybe used steroids too? Maybe some heroin? In an interview with 60 minutes he said drug dealers would come up to him and give him free samples of different drugs all the time, just to try and get "in" with him. Who knows what those were.

I think some of these list are starting to take into account the possible drug usage of some of the past great players. You would think some of those great defensive players from the 70's would be ranked higher on the list, but maybe the rampant use of steroids during that period has effected that. Mike Webster who some consider the best center of all time was 68th on that list and not even ranked in the top 100 by the fans.

Right and just as much as we don't know what other drugs Lawrence Taylor did, probably more, we also don't know how many other players used drugs that we didn't know about.

My point is that just by having watched him play, Taylor was a dominant, game changing player. The kind of dominance that substances can't create. The guy was great with or without drugs, period. Which I think reflects in the high ranking given to him. People know he was just THAT good.

[jjakq27]

Any thoughts on some of the other guys?

Personally I thought Brady should have been ranked higher than 21st.