Who would you rather have now???

[Clackwoods]

OK, now that it has been a couple of years and both CBs are recognized as great young talents. All the hype surrounding the Jets has put an immense spotlight on Revis and have people dubbing him as the best CB in the game. It is hard to argue that considering the types of numbers he held opposing CBs to.

My question is....Would Hall do the same in that Jets scheme? Would Revis be better than Hall in our scheme? Is the slight talent difference worth the pride and love that we all share in Leon?

Who would you take RIGHT NOW if you were a GM with the chance to make this trade.

[Clackwoods]

Alright, I made the post. I do love Revis, but I had to go with leon. I like the way he goes about his business. He is a hard nose guy that doesn't get wrapped up in jawwing with other players. The talent difference is a slight edge to Revis, but Hall's character and the fact that he is a Bengal now cause me to hold on to him.

[Kazkal]

Leon Hall,I think Revis is a bit overrated he is the better corner but I like what Leon Hall Brings to table 1.) he isn't a Diva and is Tough physical player.

[ArmyBengal]

Ok, a few things.

This is "if I were the GM", so it wouldn't have anything to do with pride or love. It would have to do with business.

That being the case, I would take Revis.

Call it what you want, but Revis is the better of the two. I'm not busting Hall's ass here, because he's d*mn good, but it's Revis.

I don't think Revis is a diva either. I think he and his agent are reacting to what the Jets have themselves created.

It was the Jets that said Revis was "lockdown", "the best CB in the league", and approached him and his agent about a new deal.

He's made the Pro Bowl and has all the leverage. So with that being the case and knowing what's being said about him being the best, wouldn't it be a slap in the face (from a business standpoint) to have the team offer you less than "the best CB in the league" money ??

Do I think any of these guys should be paid the amount they are ?? No, but the situation is what it is. I can tell you this, if Hall has another dominant season and should happen to make it to the Pro Bowl, followed by a weakass offer from the Bengals in attempts to redo his contract, then you could very well see the same reaction, so lets hold off on saying how much of a diva one or the other is at this point.

[agreen_112]

Revis.. Leon's my fav Bengals too. But you gotta take Revis. Afterall, he was OUR pick. Hall was the next best option.

[ArmyBengal]

People simply have to take off the Bengals "Homervision" glasses to honestly answer this question.

[BengalPimp]

If I were a GM.....Like Army said it's about business......I would want Hall. Revis might be a slightly better CB (the difference isn't that much IMO) but Hall is still one of the better CB's in the league, and from a business standpoint he makes more sense financially. Salary Cap or not, it's just not good business to lock up that much of your payroll on one player at a position like CB. To put it in perspective, let's use the 2009 Salary Cap (no Cap for 2010). The 2009 Cap Limit was about $123 million. Revis was asking for $20 Million a year (roughly 16.3%) which would leave 83.7% or $103 Mill for the remaining 52 players. Understand that if the Owners and Players Association do agree on some kind of deal (and avoid a lock-out in '11) the salary cap will most likely go down...not up. Even if Revis doesnt get $20 mill, he will NOT sign for less than what Asomugha makes ($15.1 mill per). So you figure he gets $16 million a year? The Bengals can sign both Hall and Joseph for that amount....so from a businees standpoint, it makes more sense to have 2 very good (and soon to be Pro Bowl) CB's for the price of 1 in Revis.

If the $$$ were the same, or close, I would take Revis.....But you're realistically taking about Revis costing TWICE as much.....That kind of $$$ can cripple your team, and prevent you from signing, or re-signing other important players.

[jonahdsage]

If I were a GM.....Like Army said it's about business......I would want Hall. Revis might be a slightly better CB (the difference isn't that much IMO) but Hall is still one of the better CB's in the league, and from a business standpoint he makes more sense financially. Salary Cap or not, it's just not good business to lock up that much of your payroll on one player at a position like CB. To put it in perspective, let's use the 2009 Salary Cap (no Cap for 2010). The 2009 Cap Limit was about $123 million. Revis was asking for $20 Million a year (roughly 16.3%) which would leave 83.7% or $103 Mill for the remaining 52 players. Understand that if the Owners and Players Association do agree on some kind of deal (and avoid a lock-out in '11) the salary cap will most likely go down...not up. Even if Revis doesnt get $20 mill, he will NOT sign for less than what Asomugha makes ($15.1 mill per). So you figure he gets $16 million a year? The Bengals can sign both Hall and Joseph for that amount....so from a businees standpoint, it makes more sense to have 2 very good (and soon to be Pro Bowl) CB's for the price of 1 in Revis.

If the $$$ were the same, or close, I would take Revis.....But you're realistically taking about Revis costing TWICE as much.....That kind of $$$ can cripple your team, and prevent you from signing, or re-signing other important players.

this might be the most reasonable, clear response to a question I've ever read on this board. Apparently, pimpin AIN'T easy. Well played, sir. Couldn't agree more.

[Kazkal]

He's made the Pro Bowl and has all the leverage. So with that being the case and knowing what's being said about him being the best, wouldn't it be a slap in the face (from a business standpoint) to have the team offer you less than "the best CB in the league" money ??

Problem is he's still working under his rookie contract so can the Jets even pay him that much money with 30% rule? Pretty sure they can't hence why Patrick Willis took the deal he did even though he deserves to be paid as highest paid Linebacker...Plus Does that mean we'll have to give Leon 1# CB money since Zimmer called him the best defensive player in the NFL?

so lets hold off on saying how much of a diva one or the other is at this point

Well they were Drafted the Same year and both started their rookie seasons,Leon doesn't have "probowl status"Though most people agree he got screwed out this year because we had 2 great corners...Leon could make a case for a new deal but has yet to do so... "shrug"

PS,Not trying be homer if it was purely off Skill Revis would be the man,But I think Hall is perfect fit for Defense that Zimmer is building.

[Stripes]

Hall is the man, but I voted Revis. I think Asomugha is the best CB in the NFL, but Revis's performance last season just can't be ignored. I actually think Hall is our second best corner and probably the most overrated player on the defense (despite still being a very good player).

[HoosierCat]

Adrian Peterson.

[BengalPimp]

Adrian Peterson.

Jared Allen

[BengalPimp]

If I were a GM.....Like Army said it's about business......I would want Hall. Revis might be a slightly better CB (the difference isn't that much IMO) but Hall is still one of the better CB's in the league, and from a business standpoint he makes more sense financially. Salary Cap or not, it's just not good business to lock up that much of your payroll on one player at a position like CB. To put it in perspective, let's use the 2009 Salary Cap (no Cap for 2010). The 2009 Cap Limit was about $123 million. Revis was asking for $20 Million a year (roughly 16.3%) which would leave 83.7% or $103 Mill for the remaining 52 players. Understand that if the Owners and Players Association do agree on some kind of deal (and avoid a lock-out in '11) the salary cap will most likely go down...not up. Even if Revis doesnt get $20 mill, he will NOT sign for less than what Asomugha makes ($15.1 mill per). So you figure he gets $16 million a year? The Bengals can sign both Hall and Joseph for that amount....so from a businees standpoint, it makes more sense to have 2 very good (and soon to be Pro Bowl) CB's for the price of 1 in Revis.

If the $$$ were the same, or close, I would take Revis.....But you're realistically taking about Revis costing TWICE as much.....That kind of $$$ can cripple your team, and prevent you from signing, or re-signing other important players.

this might be the most reasonable, clear response to a question I've ever read on this board. Apparently, pimpin AIN'T easy. Well played, sir. Couldn't agree more.

Thank You Sir

[ArmyBengal]

The Jets, not Revis, made that situation what it is and they are paying the price.

Once again, from a business standpoint, Revis and his agent are only doing what everyone in the Jets organization has built this into.

You can say what you want about when they were taken or anything else, but Revis is the better CB.

Once a near pro bowl CB comes up for a new contract, he's getting paid. Call it what you want with that as well, but it's going to cost the Bengals.

[HairOnFire]

"If I were the GM...."

At the risk of sounding like Joe Pong.....(poot!).....I'm reminded of past messageboard battles bloodily fought and won. Specifically, I remind myself how hard I pimped Revis against loud claims that he was vastly overrated. And later, when it later became clear that Revis wouldn't fall to the Bengals, I then exercised my powerful pimp hand championing Leon Hall over even louder claims that he was even more overrated, and according to some....too slow to play in the NFL. Best, I then remind myself how my loudest critic practically ruined himself by pimping Chris Houston as the best of the whole bunch before later declaring him to be the greatest 3rd round steal in the history of eveything. Sadly, I'm also reminded how that now forgotten draftnik committed ritual suicide a few months later.

Good times.