derekshank Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Bengals and Roy Williams agree to one-year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcom69 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I like this move, keep the whole defense intact. Im sure they will still draft a Saftey though somewhere high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 More good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Yay Roys back,Back again alsoHe played well in the games he played. You need guys that can hit like that. Roy. Maualuga. It makes those guys think twice about coming over the middle.”So Zimm has said need Safety who can Cover and One who can hit Earl or Mays anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 So Zimm has said need Safety who can Cover and One who can hitOnes that can do both jobs do exist......they're just not that easy to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Well he believes Roy can do both and for the games Roy played in showed that...I still want mays though Coyle has been great positions couch and Zimmer was a former DB couch so I think they could turn maYs in to something special...PS,with that being said happy we resigned roy and was something I wanted to see team do because he is a value even if he isn't starting as a special teamer and depth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridge Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Great news.I think Roy Williams is good for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I agree. I just hope his forearm is no longer made of glass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpeldios Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Another good move. I like the way our offseason has went so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Solid move. He played well in the few games he did play. Let's hope his arm is healed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 This defense was FAR more physical when Roy was in the secondary last year and they missed his intensity once he was lost. I think the move is solid, but does NOTHING to sway me from seeing Safety being the first round pick. Well, at least one of the more likely picks. I think bringing Roy back will help them bring a new guy in and have a vet who has been there and done that school him up. If the knock on Mays is that he is a Roy Williams clone, I simply say, make the pick, enjoy your 5 pro bowls you are going to get out of him and be happy.Mays coverage concerns simply aren't that much of a concern to me. You simply can't teach a guy that f*cking big to run that fast. I also think Mays made a mistake going back for his last year because BOTH of the starting corners AND the starting safety entered the draft the year before. He was playing with a bunch of new guys and was expected to carry that group. That is simply to much to ask of one player. Put him in there with Hall and JJoe on either side and Roy Williams or Crocker and he will flourish. I have no doubts about it.Once again, good move by the Bengals. I'm a happy camper !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 My first thoughts are the same as several others it seems. Taylor Mays is in play at #21. Big time. Because Zimmer finally put to bed the question of Roy Williams perfect fit in this defensive scheme. And if Williams is a perfect fit...and not simply an inexpensive veteran player who was better than what they had...then Mays instantly becomes the near perfect piece to build around. In short, any reservations I may have previously indulged are gone....shatttered in a single sentence. Roy fits. I want Mays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 This defense was FAR more physical when Roy was in the secondary last year and they missed his intensity once he was lost. I think the move is solid, but does NOTHING to sway me from seeing Safety being the first round pick. Well, at least one of the more likely picks. I think bringing Roy back will help them bring a new guy in and have a vet who has been there and done that school him up. If the knock on Mays is that he is a Roy Williams clone, I simply say, make the pick, enjoy your 5 pro bowls you are going to get out of him and be happy.Mays coverage concerns simply aren't that much of a concern to me. You simply can't teach a guy that f*cking big to run that fast. I also think Mays made a mistake going back for his last year because BOTH of the starting corners AND the starting safety entered the draft the year before. He was playing with a bunch of new guys and was expected to carry that group. That is simply to much to ask of one player. Put him in there with Hall and JJoe on either side and Roy Williams or Crocker and he will flourish. I have no doubts about it.Once again, good move by the Bengals. I'm a happy camper !!!Agreed fully Army,Like I was saying when people didn't think we'd resign Roy even if hes not a starter hes great for team as Depth,Special teamer and just a good vet leader.. heres to us taking Mays and letting him learn from one of the best enforcers.I want Mays. Mmhmmm Just feeling like i'm setting myself up to be disappointed when he's not there at 21#....Wondering how many people would be against us using a 3rd to try trade up 11/12th pick if we get a 3rd rnd comp for TJ so we would still have a pick in that round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cHaD711Johnson Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 This defense was FAR more physical when Roy was in the secondary last year and they missed his intensity once he was lost. I think the move is solid, but does NOTHING to sway me from seeing Safety being the first round pick. Well, at least one of the more likely picks. I think bringing Roy back will help them bring a new guy in and have a vet who has been there and done that school him up. If the knock on Mays is that he is a Roy Williams clone, I simply say, make the pick, enjoy your 5 pro bowls you are going to get out of him and be happy.Mays coverage concerns simply aren't that much of a concern to me. You simply can't teach a guy that f*cking big to run that fast. I also think Mays made a mistake going back for his last year because BOTH of the starting corners AND the starting safety entered the draft the year before. He was playing with a bunch of new guys and was expected to carry that group. That is simply to much to ask of one player. Put him in there with Hall and JJoe on either side and Roy Williams or Crocker and he will flourish. I have no doubts about it.Once again, good move by the Bengals. I'm a happy camper !!!Running fast and having good feet as a DB are NOT the same thing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 This defense was FAR more physical when Roy was in the secondary last year and they missed his intensity once he was lost. I think the move is solid, but does NOTHING to sway me from seeing Safety being the first round pick. Well, at least one of the more likely picks. I think bringing Roy back will help them bring a new guy in and have a vet who has been there and done that school him up. If the knock on Mays is that he is a Roy Williams clone, I simply say, make the pick, enjoy your 5 pro bowls you are going to get out of him and be happy.Mays coverage concerns simply aren't that much of a concern to me. You simply can't teach a guy that f*cking big to run that fast. I also think Mays made a mistake going back for his last year because BOTH of the starting corners AND the starting safety entered the draft the year before. He was playing with a bunch of new guys and was expected to carry that group. That is simply to much to ask of one player. Put him in there with Hall and JJoe on either side and Roy Williams or Crocker and he will flourish. I have no doubts about it.Once again, good move by the Bengals. I'm a happy camper !!!Running fast and having good feet as a DB are NOT the same thing though.Were you of the line of thought that I was unaware of that ?? I was only making a simple point, nothing mind numbing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 This defense was FAR more physical when Roy was in the secondary last year and they missed his intensity once he was lost. I think the move is solid, but does NOTHING to sway me from seeing Safety being the first round pick. Well, at least one of the more likely picks. I think bringing Roy back will help them bring a new guy in and have a vet who has been there and done that school him up. If the knock on Mays is that he is a Roy Williams clone, I simply say, make the pick, enjoy your 5 pro bowls you are going to get out of him and be happy.Mays coverage concerns simply aren't that much of a concern to me. You simply can't teach a guy that f*cking big to run that fast. I also think Mays made a mistake going back for his last year because BOTH of the starting corners AND the starting safety entered the draft the year before. He was playing with a bunch of new guys and was expected to carry that group. That is simply to much to ask of one player. Put him in there with Hall and JJoe on either side and Roy Williams or Crocker and he will flourish. I have no doubts about it.Once again, good move by the Bengals. I'm a happy camper !!!Running fast and having good feet as a DB are NOT the same thing though.Were you of the line of thought that I was unaware of that ?? I was only making a simple point, nothing mind numbing...Footwork can be taught. For a DB, it's more about the Hips, and how fluid you are in your hip movement, so you can change direction, and don't get turned around easily. Again, footwork can be taught, but if a guy is just stiff in the waist, that's tough to correct. Taylor Mays is NOT. Besides, that comes much more into play when talking about CB's rather than safeties.The best indicator of that would be the 3 Cone Drill time, unfortunately though, the Top 3 safeties (Berry, Mays, Thomas) chose not to run those at the combine.Taylor Mays will be a Pro Bowler on this Defense (Impressive considering the Safeties in the AFC). He can be coached, and has all the physical tools you could want in a Safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 This defense was FAR more physical when Roy was in the secondary last year and they missed his intensity once he was lost. I think the move is solid, but does NOTHING to sway me from seeing Safety being the first round pick. Well, at least one of the more likely picks. I think bringing Roy back will help them bring a new guy in and have a vet who has been there and done that school him up. If the knock on Mays is that he is a Roy Williams clone, I simply say, make the pick, enjoy your 5 pro bowls you are going to get out of him and be happy.Mays coverage concerns simply aren't that much of a concern to me. You simply can't teach a guy that f*cking big to run that fast. I also think Mays made a mistake going back for his last year because BOTH of the starting corners AND the starting safety entered the draft the year before. He was playing with a bunch of new guys and was expected to carry that group. That is simply to much to ask of one player. Put him in there with Hall and JJoe on either side and Roy Williams or Crocker and he will flourish. I have no doubts about it.Once again, good move by the Bengals. I'm a happy camper !!!Running fast and having good feet as a DB are NOT the same thing though.Were you of the line of thought that I was unaware of that ?? I was only making a simple point, nothing mind numbing...Footwork can be taught. For a DB, it's more about the Hips, and how fluid you are in your hip movement, so you can change direction, and don't get turned around easily. Again, footwork can be taught, but if a guy is just stiff in the waist, that's tough to correct. Taylor Mays is NOT. Besides, that comes much more into play when talking about CB's rather than safeties.The best indicator of that would be the 3 Cone Drill time, unfortunately though, the Top 3 safeties (Berry, Mays, Thomas) chose not to run those at the combine.Taylor Mays will be a Pro Bowler on this Defense (Impressive considering the Safeties in the AFC). He can be coached, and has all the physical tools you could want in a Safety.AAAAND thank you !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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