witt-tiger29 Posted July 11, 2004 Report Posted July 11, 2004 hey ya'll new member here, been a bengals fan all my life living in the dayton since a kid, love the direction they are going under marvin...i was wondering what some of the opinions/thoughts on keiwan and madieu are...i have friends who watched madieu in college said he is a ball hawk...hope that turns out to be true...i havent heard much about ratliff since draftday, any updates??? Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 11, 2004 Report Posted July 11, 2004 Welcome witt-tiger29! Good first post I must say! I don't expect any rookies to start in the defensive backfield come opening day, buy maybe by game #5 or #6...who knows? The same goes for the offensive backfield. I fully expect Chris Perry to become a major factor in the offense.I just think it's Marvins style to break youngsters in by following the slow but steady method. Quote
EdwardG Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 It seems like most people expect Ratcliff will be our nickel back with Deltha and Tory James as our startin corners. A little while ago Scouts Inc. had Keiwan in the watch for defensive rookie of the year, since they think he'll get lots of playing time. As far as Madieu, I expect he'll be given every opportunity to win the free safety job. Quote
CJBestInAFC Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 I also heard Williams might play the nickle cb position. I am sure you will see him in the Dime package. I can't wait to see them in action. From what I have heard Ratliff challenges CJ every practice. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 From what I have heard Ratliff challenges CJ every practice. Well if he can challenge Chad, he can challenge ANYBODY!! :player: Quote
bengalsfan33 Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 I think we will see Perry come in every once in a while when Rudi wants a break. Everyone else will have to wait and see. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 I think we will see Perry come in every once in a while when Rudi wants a break. I think Chris Perry will get far more snaps than most fans here think. He's gonna be a Super Bowl Class runningback! Marvin didn't choose him 1st for some freakin' backup role! He's got all the skills James Brooks had, and then some! He's the perfect backfield addition for Carson to work with. Not only can he run and block, but the man has the hands to turn the screen play into a serious threat!In Marvin I trust! :player: Quote
BadLuck Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 Honestly, I think Perry was drafted because we don't expect to be able to sign Rudi long-term. It took us quite some time to sign him to just a one year deal and that was almost entirely at the surprising lack of market interest for him.More than likely, Perry will get plenty of snaps this season because he's Rudi's replacement and he'll need the practice.As for our other rookies, they're all supposedly hard-working, intelligent, fast and atheletic... but not necisarily talented otherwise. A lot of our players are very raw and it was a big risk to take them...Trust in Marvin until he gives us a reason to do otherwise... Quote
derm53 Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 I think that Ratliff will be solid. He adds a nice return man and special teams player to the team as well. Quote
BengalFanInNJ Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 They said Lamont Thompson was a ball-hawk too. Let's hope Williams doesn't end up like him. :player: Quote
CJBestInAFC Posted July 12, 2004 Report Posted July 12, 2004 Actually I heard Lamont Thompson had a good season last year and is improving. I wish we had him instead of Manual. Quote
Bobcat Bengal Posted July 13, 2004 Report Posted July 13, 2004 Hell, Im just glad we got rid of Artrell and BurrisThis new secondary looks way better now..... Quote
ckj414 Posted July 14, 2004 Report Posted July 14, 2004 Honestly, I think Perry was drafted because we don't expect to be able to sign Rudi long-term. It took us quite some time to sign him to just a one year deal and that was almost entirely at the surprising lack of market interest for him. Its not that suprising. Honestly, most teams already have a runningback about as good as Rudi. Over a full season, Rudi will probably be a 1200 yard runner - these days, thats middle of the road for a starter. Don't get me wrong, he's a solid back who won't hurt you, and I'm glad he's with the Bengals, but its not like he's one of the top guys in the league.I'm luke-warm towards Perry. He doesn't seem particularly fast, not particularly strong, and when it comes to lateral movement I haven't seen much out of him. Hopefully he's got just enough of everything to be productive. Quote
Staticx682004 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 Badluck i will have to agree with you on this one very rare.Because you are a Nate Webster hater lol............. Quote
BadLuck Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 lol, I hope to GOD he proves me wrong. GO NATE, ya worthless freak... Quote
Tiger Stripes Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 whoa whats the knock on the wild man (nate webster)? Quote
BadLuck Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 He's not very bright, for one thing. And he's going to get us quite a few penalties. I just don't like him, call it a gut feeling. All I care about is that he's better than Adrian Ross. I'm notorious for being wrong about everything, so here's to hoping the tradition continues. I've got this screen name for a reason, after all. Quote
Chad Johnson Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 I look for Ratliff to surprise the hell out of me... I honestly do...I dont really look for the Perry Rudi situation to be like Dillon Rudi with sharing of snaps... I think by week 5 well be heavily leaning towards 1 Quote
Barbarian Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 whoa whats the knock on the wild man (nate webster)? I'll say that Nate Webster's the wrong man for the job. He's an Oompa Loompa. What's he listed at--6'1--225??? That's like Safety Size. He's going to get the f**k run over. He's got no meat in front of him.There's going to be more gaps in that Defensive Line than a porno movie.I'll say the Run Defense is going to be WORSE than last year. Quote
wat Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 webster would be a stud on defense but he needs a d-line(like in tampa) he is undersized with great speed. he is a sideline to sideline player. he's spectacular against the run if he has a good d-line. so i dont know what to expect out of him Quote
CJBestInAFC Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 What is the deal with Levels? Why not give this guy a shot over Ross if Webster fails? He was great in college and is a big guy. I think weighs something around 260. Wont need to worry about covering this guy up with big D line. Quote
LABengalsFan09 Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 I don't know if Nate Webster's height should be such a cause for concern. Zach Thomas and London Fletcher do terrific jobs for their teams, and I think Webster is faster than both of them, with a bigger mean streak. While he doesn't have their natural instincts or discipline, hopefully he can offset that with energy and speed. I think he could really make a name for himself if John Thornton continues to improve...Who-Dey... :player: :player: :player: Quote
Barbarian Posted July 15, 2004 Report Posted July 15, 2004 I don't know if Nate Webster's height should be such a cause for concern. Zach Thomas and London Fletcher do terrific jobs for their teams, and I think Webster is faster than both of them, with a bigger mean streak. While he doesn't have their natural instincts or discipline, hopefully he can offset that with energy and speed. I think he could really make a name for himself if John Thornton continues to improve...Who-Dey... :player: :player: :player: Don't get me wrong--hopefully Nate Webster DOES turn out to be Dat Nyegun's long lost brother. Evidently Bill Parcells likes undersized Linebackers too.Dat is mean as f**k too. Quote
Staticx682004 Posted July 16, 2004 Report Posted July 16, 2004 It pretty obvious people have not seen webster play he is 6ft his official weight is 237lbs and he started 6 games for tampa last year when he started he lead the team in tackles. His only flaw is his intensity.He will get us penalties for sure. J.G. did not let nate go from tampa because he was no good they could not afford to keep him...J.G said that nate was a loss for there team.....This guy will not miss a tackle like some bengals we have or had.........The weight numbers are from minicamp this year... I forgot his other draw back is he isnt great in coverage for the pass.... Quote
peteroseforpresident Posted March 24, 2006 Report Posted March 24, 2006 Honestly, I think Perry was drafted because we don't expect to be able to sign Rudi long-term. It took us quite some time to sign him to just a one year deal and that was almost entirely at the surprising lack of market interest for him.More than likely, Perry will get plenty of snaps this season because he's Rudi's replacement and he'll need the practice.As for our other rookies, they're all supposedly hard-working, intelligent, fast and atheletic... but not necisarily talented otherwise. A lot of our players are very raw and it was a big risk to take them...Trust in Marvin until he gives us a reason to do otherwise...always interesting to go back and read some of things fans said when they were totally and utterly wrong Quote
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