derekshank Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Teams work out players all the time. Stick this one in the "in case of emergency, break glass" file.Agreed. And I'm not sure why people are concerned that the Bengals are "tinkering" with the lineup too much. If they bring in a one trick pony like this, it would be as a #4 on the depth chart. How much can a guy like that hurt the team? The Bengals are just doing their due diligence here to make sure there isn't something better out there than what they are currently fielding. Can't understand why anyone would have a problem with that.I don't have a problem with anything that they're doing. I'm a little concerned about how the locker room will fare with LJ in it, but it seems that he's been well received so far. I just hope it stays that way and that he really is dedicated to resurrecting his career and doing the things he's asked to do.Also, if you bring in Doss or Galloway, who do you cut?The Galloway one is pretty simple. You just move Purify back to the PS. Interestingly, that's the move I doubt they make.I see it as much more likely they bring in Doss since Roy is out and they are pretty shallow at Safety now. That's a harder decision, but with Andre Smith probably getting more ready to go all the time, I could see them letting Kooistra go again. Also, I'm not sure how long they'll have to wait, but with 4 RBs on the roster, I assume Vakapuna is a goner the moment they are permitted to cut him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I dont want Galloway at all. WR is not a spot we need much help at, even with the loss of Henry, and Galloway has not been much of a threat for years and yearsInstead, reward Cosby for his outstanding KR blocking on the Scott KT TD play, and give him some snaps at WR in 3 or 4 receiver formations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickey44 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Teams work out players all the time. Stick this one in the "in case of emergency, break glass" file.Agreed. And I'm not sure why people are concerned that the Bengals are "tinkering" with the lineup too much. If they bring in a one trick pony like this, it would be as a #4 on the depth chart. How much can a guy like that hurt the team? The Bengals are just doing their due diligence here to make sure there isn't something better out there than what they are currently fielding. Can't understand why anyone would have a problem with that.I don't have a problem with anything that they're doing. I'm a little concerned about how the locker room will fare with LJ in it, but it seems that he's been well received so far. I just hope it stays that way and that he really is dedicated to resurrecting his career and doing the things he's asked to do.Also, if you bring in Doss or Galloway, who do you cut?The Galloway one is pretty simple. You just move Purify back to the PS. Interestingly, that's the move I doubt they make.I see it as much more likely they bring in Doss since Roy is out and they are pretty shallow at Safety now. That's a harder decision, but with Andre Smith probably getting more ready to go all the time, I could see them letting Kooistra go again. Also, I'm not sure how long they'll have to wait, but with 4 RBs on the roster, I assume Vakapuna is a goner the moment they are permitted to cut him.I'd actually kind of like to see Purify get a shot instead of Galloway. The way Carson talked him up has me curious. Purify may not have downfield speed, but he has the size and height to overpower DB's to go up and get the ball. Send him deep and see what happens. As far as Doss, I wouldn't mind him being brought in as he has more experience to offer than Nelson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 The Galloway issue - sure, see what he's got. Nothing, at this point. End of issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I would like to see them sign Galloway. We have to start looking to the playoffs, and this season. A team like New England will scheme to stop the Bengals run and underneath stuff. The Bengals will have to be able to go over the top. I love the way the Bengals are making moves to strike while the iron is hot. Let's assume the Bengals make the playoffs and don't win the Superbowl. Zimmer will probably be a head coach next year, the Bengals will have all of the salary demands from the guys that think they're the reason they went to the playoffs, ego's get inflated, it's hard for a team to handle new found success. So bring in Galloway, Johnson and whover else can help us with this playoff run. WHO-DEY!Since it was NE who cut Galloway, because he could not catch, I doubt signing him and sending him deep will strike any fear into NE should the Bengals face NE in the playoffs.I agree with you that the Bengals are making progress in being proactive about players and the roster.I am still a doubter regarding Zimmer becoming a HC next year. I think with the stress and greif he has had to endure, he will stay somewhere safe and where he is surrounded by support. Plus, he has built something very special with this D, I just can't imagine he'd bolt. SoP should be working to re-sign him in a most generous way, as SoP surely must realize the value of ZImmer and what he has built.While we're on the opic of re-upping players, I think they need to work to lock up Benson for 3-5 years and also pin down this O-line, get Cook and Roland all solidified. On defense, they've got to get (hard to type it out but here goes) Rucker extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I would like to see them sign Galloway. We have to start looking to the playoffs, and this season. A team like New England will scheme to stop the Bengals run and underneath stuff. The Bengals will have to be able to go over the top. I love the way the Bengals are making moves to strike while the iron is hot. Let's assume the Bengals make the playoffs and don't win the Superbowl. Zimmer will probably be a head coach next year, the Bengals will have all of the salary demands from the guys that think they're the reason they went to the playoffs, ego's get inflated, it's hard for a team to handle new found success. So bring in Galloway, Johnson and whover else can help us with this playoff run. WHO-DEY!Since it was NE who cut Galloway, because he could not catch, I doubt signing him and sending him deep will strike any fear into NE should the Bengals face NE in the playoffs.I agree with you that the Bengals are making progress in being proactive about players and the roster.I am still a doubter regarding Zimmer becoming a HC next year. I think with the stress and greif he has had to endure, he will stay somewhere safe and where he is surrounded by support. Plus, he has built something very special with this D, I just can't imagine he'd bolt. SoP should be working to re-sign him in a most generous way, as SoP surely must realize the value of ZImmer and what he has built.While we're on the opic of re-upping players, I think they need to work to lock up Benson for 3-5 years and also pin down this O-line, get Cook and Roland all solidified. On defense, they've got to get (hard to type it out but here goes) Rucker extended.I say stick with the 2 year plan for Benson, move on to another RB at that time. He will have run his course as a stud by than and if they can keep the O-line intact, another stud RB will not be that hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I am still a doubter regarding Zimmer becoming a HC next year.Me too. For a few reasons. I'm not taking anything away from what Zimmer has done in Cincy, but I'm guessing people will want to see him do it more than one year before the back up the brinks truck. Sure, you can point to what he did in Dallas too... but his resume is still a long way off from what Marvin Lewis accomplished both in Baltimore and Washington before even getting a sniff of an interview.At 53, he's quite a bit older than what would commonly be a first head coaching gig. He's not way too old, but the trend in the NFL right now is to find either really young guys, or very experienced guys. Josh McDaniels, Rex Ryan, Tomlin, Mangini... these are the type getting owners excited about turning around a bad team. Then you have guys like Gruden, Cowher, Schottenheimer, and Holmgren who have tons of experience that might be looking for work as well. I just don't see Zimmer getting the nod over a younger version of himself, or a guy with a very impressive head coaching resume.And lastly (and probably most important), in a recent interview Zimmer made no secret of the fact that he's looking to work fewer hours, not more. He had a tragedy in his life that has caused him to reevaluate what is most important. To the point that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he decided to retire after this year. Taking a HC job seems like the last thing he's interested it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I'd actually kind of like to see Purify get a shot instead of Galloway. The way Carson talked him up has me curious. Purify may not have downfield speed, but he has the size and height to overpower DB's to go up and get the ball. Send him deep and see what happens. As far as Doss, I wouldn't mind him being brought in as he has more experience to offer than Nelson.I agree with you about both Galloway and Doss. I very much doubt anything comes from them taking a look at Galloway. That said, I appreciate that they aren't just standing pat with the talent they have. They are taking a look at ways to improve. I doubt Galloway is that answer to any question they are asking, but it doesn't hurt to kick the tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 On defense, they've got to get (hard to type it out but here goes) Rucker extended. Oh, you had to know I was going to quote that one. BTW, I know Frostee broke through a little and finally got some much deserved love with the interception and return...(ahem)...but did anyone else notice how Rucker threw one of three critical blocks springing Bernard Scott on his TD return? (Cosby, then Maxwell, then Rucker.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 On defense, they've got to get (hard to type it out but here goes) Rucker extended. Oh, you had to know I was going to quote that one. BTW, I know Frostee broke through a little and finally got some much deserved love with the interception and return...(ahem)...but did anyone else notice how Rucker threw one of three critical blocks springing Bernard Scott on his TD return? (Cosby, then Maxwell, then Rucker.)You forgot to add "then Cosby again at the end" there.Rucker has always been a very good player when he is able to get on the feild healthy. Same for Fanene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 On defense, they've got to get (hard to type it out but here goes) Rucker extended. Oh, you had to know I was going to quote that one. BTW, I know Frostee broke through a little and finally got some much deserved love with the interception and return...(ahem)...but did anyone else notice how Rucker threw one of three critical blocks springing Bernard Scott on his TD return? (Cosby, then Maxwell, then Rucker.)You forgot to add "then Cosby again at the end" there. Yeah, I almost did, but I reminded myself how the 2nd block by Cosby was behind the returner, and therefor more of a cherry on top kind of thing. All other blocks aside, the Maxwell block was the biggie. Scott makes his initial cut off of Cosby's block right into the gunsight of a Steeler perfectly positioned to make the tackle and end the return after only a few yards. But Maxwell sweeps back and just wipes the guy right out of the picture...leaving Scott a few yards behind the runaway train that was Rucker. Rucker then gets enough of a piece of two potential tacklers to spring Scott into the open, with a pussified Jeff Reed being all that remained in the way. Not that I mind, but did I mention Jeff Reed is a p***y? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Are there any one of us tapping on a keyboard who couldn't block Jeff Reed? I had visions of Rolf Benirschke there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 the Maxwell block was the biggieWho is Maxwell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 the Maxwell block was the biggieWho is Maxwell? I was about to tell ya' but decided to check the roster first. Good thing, too. No Maxwell. Instead, please direct your props towards Dan "JU-87" Skuta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePong Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I dont want Galloway at all. WR is not a spot we need much help at, even with the loss of Henry, and Galloway has not been much of a threat for years and yearsI think you need to re-check the stats because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.In 2007, the guy had over 1,000 receiving yards and averaged 18 yards per catch. That was the third consecutive season he put up numbers like that.Can you remember the last time any bengal WR did that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 I dont want Galloway at all. WR is not a spot we need much help at, even with the loss of Henry, and Galloway has not been much of a threat for years and yearsI think you need to re-check the stats because you obviously don't know what you're talking about.In 2007, the guy had over 1,000 receiving yards and averaged 18 yards per catch. That was the third consecutive season he put up numbers like that.Can you remember the last time any bengal WR did that?You won't hear me raising a stink if they decide to sign him... but 2007 was an eternity ago in NFL years. If he was the same guy as he was in '07, I'm guessing he'd already have a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Not excited about the consideration of Galloway at all, with the upcoming schedule looking to be in the Bengals favor, why not see what Purify and Simpson can do? I will also throw Coffman in the group, because if he's the mismatch-type receiving threat that he was in college, an aging, one-trick WR is not the answer. I think this all bodes well for Henry at the negotiation table, but the likely scenario is that one of the Bengals first two picks in next April is a field-stretching WR...unless Simpson has a breakthough game or two between now and January, of course. FWIW, I really, really like Purify and would like to see Cosby in the base offense. All Quan did was make plays at Texas, and if you didn't see his blocking on Scott's KR for the TD, you truly missed one of the best and most unnoticed Bengals plays of the last two decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 the Maxwell block was the biggieWho is Maxwell? I was about to tell ya' but decided to check the roster first. Good thing, too. No Maxwell. Instead, please direct your props towards Dan "JU-87" Skuta.I remember Jim Maxwell :-) Good ST'er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I am still a doubter regarding Zimmer becoming a HC next year.Me too. For a few reasons. I'm not taking anything away from what Zimmer has done in Cincy, but I'm guessing people will want to see him do it more than one year before the back up the brinks truck. Sure, you can point to what he did in Dallas too... but his resume is still a long way off from what Marvin Lewis accomplished both in Baltimore and Washington before even getting a sniff of an interview.At 53, he's quite a bit older than what would commonly be a first head coaching gig. He's not way too old, but the trend in the NFL right now is to find either really young guys, or very experienced guys. Josh McDaniels, Rex Ryan, Tomlin, Mangini... these are the type getting owners excited about turning around a bad team. Then you have guys like Gruden, Cowher, Schottenheimer, and Holmgren who have tons of experience that might be looking for work as well. I just don't see Zimmer getting the nod over a younger version of himself, or a guy with a very impressive head coaching resume.And lastly (and probably most important), in a recent interview Zimmer made no secret of the fact that he's looking to work fewer hours, not more. He had a tragedy in his life that has caused him to reevaluate what is most important. To the point that I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he decided to retire after this year. Taking a HC job seems like the last thing he's interested it.Who did Zim bring with him, if anyone, in terms of assistants etc? Maybe smooth the transition if he does decide to leave by keeping them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregstephens Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 On defense, they've got to get (hard to type it out but here goes) Rucker extended. Oh, you had to know I was going to quote that one. BTW, I know Frostee broke through a little and finally got some much deserved love with the interception and return...(ahem)...but did anyone else notice how Rucker threw one of three critical blocks springing Bernard Scott on his TD return? (Cosby, then Maxwell, then Rucker.)You forgot to add "then Cosby again at the end" there. Yeah, I almost did, but I reminded myself how the 2nd block by Cosby was behind the returner, and therefor more of a cherry on top kind of thing. All other blocks aside, the Maxwell block was the biggie. Scott makes his initial cut off of Cosby's block right into the gunsight of a Steeler perfectly positioned to make the tackle and end the return after only a few yards. But Maxwell sweeps back and just wipes the guy right out of the picture...leaving Scott a few yards behind the runaway train that was Rucker. Rucker then gets enough of a piece of two potential tacklers to spring Scott into the open, with a pussified Jeff Reed being all that remained in the way. Not that I mind, but did I mention Jeff Reed is a p***y?Yeah, I did love the fact that he ran right past Scott with no attempt at so much as pushing him out of bounds, much less a tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 TBF to Reed, he saw two Scotts and just went after the wrong one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 On defense, they've got to get (hard to type it out but here goes) Rucker extended. Oh, you had to know I was going to quote that one. BTW, I know Frostee broke through a little and finally got some much deserved love with the interception and return...(ahem)...but did anyone else notice how Rucker threw one of three critical blocks springing Bernard Scott on his TD return? (Cosby, then Maxwell, then Rucker.)You forgot to add "then Cosby again at the end" there. Yeah, I almost did, but I reminded myself how the 2nd block by Cosby was behind the returner, and therefor more of a cherry on top kind of thing. All other blocks aside, the Maxwell block was the biggie. Scott makes his initial cut off of Cosby's block right into the gunsight of a Steeler perfectly positioned to make the tackle and end the return after only a few yards. But Maxwell sweeps back and just wipes the guy right out of the picture...leaving Scott a few yards behind the runaway train that was Rucker. Rucker then gets enough of a piece of two potential tacklers to spring Scott into the open, with a pussified Jeff Reed being all that remained in the way. Not that I mind, but did I mention Jeff Reed is a p***y?See, I disagree here, Cosby changed the angle of one defender late and than decides to level another for sh%^ts and giggles at the end of that run, when Scott was running out of gas. Without Cosby's pursuit of that play it may have ended inside the 5 yard line. With the way that game was going it would have only produced 3 points instead of 6, than. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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