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[Ickey44]

Bengals T Anthony Collins for Packers DE Aaron Kampman

Talk about a trade that makes sense. This would solve some severe issues on both sides of the deal.

The popular Packers end, Kampman, is miscast in Dom Capers' 3-4 defense. When he played end in a 4-3 -- which the Bengals play -- Kampman was a Pro Bowl player who racked up huge sack numbers. Since switching to linebacker in the 3-4, he has just one sack.

Meanwhile, the Bengals obviously find themselves in a unique position of being able to make a big run. They need help on the defensive line, pressuring the quarterback, and Kampman would bring great professionalism and class to the club. It could be a big-time, fate-changing type move for the Bengals.

As for the Packers, they are having big issues protecting quarterback Aaron Rodgers. He simply does not have the time to get the ball to game-breaking receiver Greg Jennings, who has just 11 catches.

Jennings normally is not one to bark and howl like a T.O. or Chad Ochocinco, but said this week, "When I'm in the meeting and I'm looking at myself running wide open and I'm not getting the opportunity, yes, I am [mad]."

Collins would be a loss to the Bengals' line, but just how big of one? The Bengals already were showing a preference to versatile second-year lineman Dennis Roland, rotating him with Collins. Also, underachieving first-round draft pick Andre Smith is improving rapidly from the broken foot that sidelined him and apparently Bengals coaches are getting favorable reports on his conditioning.

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I think this is an excellent idea. The only problem would come if Roland got hurt before Smith is ready.

[Wraith]

Why do we need help pressuring the Quarterback? Geathers and Odom are doing very well.

[Pidge]

While I really like Kampman, 2 things:

1) No way do they trade him straight up for Collins. They'd need more value than that.

2) Sounds nice but Collins gives us depth and at least has a little experience with room to improve - still a young player. If we were to get an injury on the O-line then we'd be screwed.

[ArmyBengal]

The o-line would take a hit depth wise, but adding a pro bowl type player certainly wouldn't hurt.

Not sure how it would impact what we already have. Collins is 23 and under contract for 2 more years and Kampman is 29 and is a free agent next year.

This would surely result in another high dollar contract at the DE position.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

No way. After seeing what happened last year, my inclination is to keep the depth we have on the Oline, because we need it.

Additionally, consider contract status. From what I can tell, Kampman is in his contract year, meaning we'd be renting him for, what 10 games (plus playoffs)? And giving up a bargain at O-line in the process? No thanks.

[BlainThePain]

Three reasons why we shouldn't make this trade.

1. Before all else, protect Carson first. Keeping Palmer upright is our top priority and you do that by having great O-line depth. What would we do if Whitworth goes down with an injury, put Roland at LT? Collins gives us great insurance.

2. Collins can be a stud in this league. He had the misfortune of over-achieving as a rookie, so now everybody expects a lot from him right away. If you look back at his profile when he was drafted, he only had one year of experience at left tackle and was supposed to be a project when we drafted him. His development is already way ahead of where it should be, and I could definitely see him developing into an All-Pro left tackle in two or three years.

3. We are fourth in the league in sacks right now. Why on earth would we want to trade for Kampman and only get his services for one year if we are fourth in the league in sacks.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see Kampman in a Bengals jersey. He is the kind of player that you build a defense around. But I don't want to sacrifice o-line depth and a prospect that could turn into an All-Pro for a defensive end that we would probably only get for one season.

If we traded for him and signed him to an extension right away, I would be more open to it.

[SupaBran]

While I really like Kampman, 2 things:

1) No way do they trade him straight up for Collins. They'd need more value than that.

2) Sounds nice but Collins gives us depth and at least has a little experience with room to improve - still a young player. If we were to get an injury on the O-line then we'd be screwed.

Your #2 explains your #1! Collins is 23 and a good player with buttloads of potential, and they're not gonna keep Kampman! He doesn't fit in their 3-4, but could return to Pro Bowl form for us! So I say do it! We can tag him next year if we can't sign him long term!

My goal would be, if he works out and goes back to form, sign him long term and put him opposite Antwan Odom! I like Geathers, but you can't deny he hasn't lived up to his contract, he's only had one good year.

[ArmyBengal]

My goal would be, if he works out and goes back to form, sign him long term and put him opposite Antwan Odom! I like Geathers, but you can't deny he hasn't lived up to his contract, he's only had one good year.

And to think last year (not that you said it Supa) people were saying Geathers was someone to build around and that Odom was the biggest waste of free agent money in the history of the organization. Funny how things change huh ??

[Pidge]

While I really like Kampman, 2 things:

1) No way do they trade him straight up for Collins. They'd need more value than that.

2) Sounds nice but Collins gives us depth and at least has a little experience with room to improve - still a young player. If we were to get an injury on the O-line then we'd be screwed.

Your #2 explains your #1! Collins is 23 and a good player with buttloads of potential, and they're not gonna keep Kampman! He doesn't fit in their 3-4, but could return to Pro Bowl form for us! So I say do it! We can tag him next year if we can't sign him long term!

My goal would be, if he works out and goes back to form, sign him long term and put him opposite Antwan Odom! I like Geathers, but you can't deny he hasn't lived up to his contract, he's only had one good year.

Sort of a long term gain for a short term loss.

As BtP said, were he to sign a longer term contract when traded I'd be more open to it. Even then, I would hesitate. Without Collins, we'd have very little depth. The number one importance to any team is it's O-line. Everything, absolutely everything else, on both sides of the ball, is dependent on the O-line to varying degrees.

Now, as of right now, Kampman is a better player than Collins without question. His addition to this team might not make the team that much better taking into account where we might be should injuries occur to the O-line.

Realistically, Carson > Kampman and that's who we would be putting at risk by lessening the depth of the O-line.

[Kazkal]

I'd be up for trading him if we could extemd rolland so we know we have depth for more then a year

[Kazkal]

Why do we need help pressuring the Quarterback? Geathers and Odom are doing very well.

it's not that great 2 out of 5 games we've had good preasure vs backup tackles... championship teams have great pushrush look at the superbowl teams for past 10 years thing they have most in common is all were great passrushing teams...

Giants,Colts,Steelers,patriots,Ravens & buccaneers

PS,Since Geathers has been a full time starter his passrushing has gone down,just rather see him go to the passrush specialist roll with MJ that way on passing downs you always have fast fresh ends..It's not like it will cost MJ time the guy is all over the field I think i've seen him covering more offensive players this year then dhani jones.

[SupaBran]

Why do we need help pressuring the Quarterback? Geathers and Odom are doing very well.

it's not that great 2 out of 5 games we've had good preasure vs backup tackles... championship teams have great pushrush look at the superbowl teams for past 10 years thing they have most in common is all were great passrushing teams...

Giants,Colts,Steelers,patriots,Ravens & buccaneers

PS,Since Geathers has been a full time starter his passrushing has gone down,just rather see him go to the passrush specialist roll with MJ that way on passing downs you always have fast fresh ends..It's not like it will cost MJ time the guy is all over the field I think i've seen him covering more offensive players this year then dhani jones.

Agreed! You can't argue that since he became a starter, his production went bblllllooooooooooppppp....way down!!! Maybe he's best as a pass rush specialist!

[SupaBran]

O'Line depth is great but I think that Collins is too good to make him sit on the bench, which is what he'll do when Andre Smith is ready. I believe we should leave Whit at left tackle. He's a captain and Carson trusts him to protect his blindside! He'll only get better! Whit and Andre Smith at both tackles...shoot that's sick! I also believe we should sign Kyle Cook to be the long term solution at center. I know we just drafted Luigs and he has great potential but Kyle looks like the s**t...I don't wanna go back to the Girlchick situation! I think we need to improve at both the guard positions, with Bobbie's contract up!

Those of you that just want to keep Collins as a backup for insurance, that is just a waste if we could get a guy like Kampman!

[Sea Ray]

First Jevon Kearse and now this? Why are folks trying to stick us with DEs? I'd like to see Michael Johnson develop. If we make a trade, let's pick up a TE or a DB

[SupaBran]

First Jevon Kearse and now this? Why are folks trying to stick us with DEs? I'd like to see Michael Johnson develop. If we make a trade, let's pick up a TE or a DB

I wouldn't e hat that either Ray!

[kingwilly]

First Jevon Kearse and now this? Why are folks trying to stick us with DEs? I'd like to see Michael Johnson develop. If we make a trade, let's pick up a TE or a DB

exactly.

this writer is like match-making by an overbearing neighbor..."She's single, you're single, you should go out!"

Of all the positions we are most vulnerable at, should a started go down, it is CB. Hall or JJoe turn an elbow or sprain their toe, this D gets much weaker zince the back-ups are raw.

We do not *NEED* Kampman. We do *NEED* Collins.

If we moved Collins, and given our history of not dealing O-lineman, the only spot I'd hope they upgrade the depth at is CB.

[Sea Ray]

I wouldn't e hat that either Ray!

OK, whatever "e hat" means...

[SupaBran]

I wouldn't e hat that either Ray!

OK, whatever "e hat" means...

Its Pig-Latin! How do you not know this?

[Kazkal]

We do not *NEED* Kampman. We do *NEED* Collins.

I'd go with Rolland on the left & Smith on the right if whitworth went down then after that collins is in a tie with JJ.

[HairOnFire]

First Jevon Kearse and now this? Why are folks trying to stick us with DEs? I'd like to see Michael Johnson develop. If we make a trade, let's pick up a TE or a DB

Speculation always runs wild immediately prior to the trade deadline.

As for rumors, possibly unfounded, I stumbled over one yesterday involving the Chiefs attempting to trade OLB Derrick Johnson. So there's that...

[Pidge]

He's the one from Texas right? They probably wouldn't want all that much actually or so it seems. He's not exactly Miss Congeniality in KC.

[ArmyBengal]

Now there you go, at least OLB is or is going to be a need for us when Dhani is done and Rey moves into the middle slot and depending on how they view the other players to fill that position. I still don't see the Bengals doing anything prior to the trade deadline.