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I'm starting to lose optimism on Simpson


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It sounds like he's really struggling. I hope in training cam he can show something, but they have so many receivers that are more polished the frustrations are probably mounting.

He might end up being a bust... but he's still got plenty of time. It's not as if the Bengals need him to come in an be a Pro-Bowler this year. In fact, given the depth of talent at WR, he probably won't need to be counted on this year at all unless the injury bug strikes.

I'm not ready to panic yet. They drafted him for his physical tools. If he's a little slow in the head game, the good news is that there's no rush.

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Let's see...

Chad, Coles, Henry, Caldwell

He's not going to be anything more than the #5 and whomever get's the spot as punt returner could push him to the #6 spot. I can't see the problem with him holding that spot for at least another year in the hopes he develops, because the other WR's might not offer any more than him. The following season may be another story, but I'm ok with it for now...

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It sounds like he's really struggling. I hope in training cam he can show something, but they have so many receivers that are more polished the frustrations are probably mounting.

He might end up being a bust... but he's still got plenty of time. It's not as if the Bengals need him to come in an be a Pro-Bowler this year. In fact, given the depth of talent at WR, he probably won't need to be counted on this year at all unless the injury bug strikes.

I'm not ready to panic yet. They drafted him for his physical tools. If he's a little slow in the head game, the good news is that there's no rush.

There may be no rush right now, but my thinking is, by the time he finally does develop(if ever) his contract will be up, and he'll be somewhere else.

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Eh, we will see. With the unexpected depth the team has now at WR it's gonna be tough for him or Caldwell (at least Caldwell plays special teams) to get in much playing time. The best either can hope for is the team to install more 4 and 5 wr packages, and that goes against all the talk of running the ball more, so unless Simpson shows that he can run block or the injury bug strikes, he's gonna have a hard time even dressing for the games.

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It sounds like he's really struggling. I hope in training cam he can show something, but they have so many receivers that are more polished the frustrations are probably mounting.

That's what they get for gambling on a pick. The guy was not proven against top college talent so they took a flier on him because of his speed, dimensions, workouts etc. When you pick a guy because he MAY be good you should do so in the late rounds not the second.

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That's what they get for gambling on a pick. The guy was not proven against top college talent so they took a flier on him because of his speed, dimensions, workouts etc. When you pick a guy because he MAY be good you should do so in the late rounds not the second.

ditto. it'll be very interesting to see how darrius heyward-bay turns out.

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That's what they get for gambling on a pick. The guy was not proven against top college talent so they took a flier on him because of his speed, dimensions, workouts etc. When you pick a guy because he MAY be good you should do so in the late rounds not the second.

ditto. it'll be very interesting to see how darrius heyward-bay turns out.

From what I understand, DHB has already been hurt twice. The practices he has participated in, he's dropped a lot of balls.

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I would have preferred them go in another direction with the pick myself. I still don't know how they took Simpson over DeSean Jackson. That one will baffle me forever. Maybe Simpson comes on and is the player the Bengals coaches think he will be, but you had a guy in Jackson that was going to give you more without the wait, plus he returned punts.

I will say in Simpson's defense that he wasn't going to last until the late rounds. Some team would've taken the same flier the Bengals did.

Ray Rice was still on the board as well and going in with Chris Perry makes passing on Rice a bit confusing as well. Oh well...

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The only thing that bothers me is that he cost a 2nd rounder. If we took him in the 5th, maybe even 4th, on his potential then no problem. As it is, we have one less player helping out the starting 22. Wasted pick right now. Having said that, someone else was apparently looking at him and that's why we took him early? Probably just propaganda to limit the damage of a misjudged pick.

Still, even a generally well regarded college WR picked in the 1st rnd can take his time in adjusting to the league so I'm not going to get on his case right now. Next yr he better be a top 3 WR or we'll have truly wasted what should be a starting calibre player with a 2nd rnd pick.

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The only thing that bothers me is that he cost a 2nd rounder. If we took him in the 5th, maybe even 4th, on his potential then no problem. As it is, we have one less player helping out the starting 22. Wasted pick right now. Having said that, someone else was apparently looking at him and that's why we took him early? Probably just propaganda to limit the damage of a misjudged pick.

Still, even a generally well regarded college WR picked in the 1st rnd can take his time in adjusting to the league so I'm not going to get on his case right now. Next yr he better be a top 3 WR or we'll have truly wasted what should be a starting calibre player with a 2nd rnd pick.

If we didn't take him then the Steelers would have taken him. Even taking a look at their 2nd round pick that year Limas Sweed, a proven receiver from a big time school UT. He hasn't been able to produce for them yet.It takes time for receivers. I'm still going to hold out and be patient witht he kid.

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The only thing that bothers me is that he cost a 2nd rounder. If we took him in the 5th, maybe even 4th, on his potential then no problem. As it is, we have one less player helping out the starting 22. Wasted pick right now. Having said that, someone else was apparently looking at him and that's why we took him early? Probably just propaganda to limit the damage of a misjudged pick.

Still, even a generally well regarded college WR picked in the 1st rnd can take his time in adjusting to the league so I'm not going to get on his case right now. Next yr he better be a top 3 WR or we'll have truly wasted what should be a starting calibre player with a 2nd rnd pick.

If we didn't take him then the Steelers would have taken him. Even taking a look at their 2nd round pick that year Limas Sweed, a proven receiver from a big time school UT. He hasn't been able to produce for them yet.It takes time for receivers. I'm still going to hold out and be patient witht he kid.

That would have been great! :P

But essentially, I agree with you about giving him some time. Like you said, Sweed wasn't stellar and the dude I mentioned (went to the Saints in the first round, can't remember his name for the life of me) took a couple of yrs to click. I really hope we see something, anything next yr or the dude will be mid 20's and out of contract before we know it and we'll be a 2nd rnd pick worse off as a team.

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I'm all for giving a guy time to adjust to the NFL, but when that guy is a 2nd rd. pick you usually want him to play or get on the field somehow the year he was drafted...Even though LSweed may not be producing much, he did come from a D1(Texas) school and played against D1 competition...Didn't like the pick when it was made and this is why the Bengals continue to do the 1 step forward 2 steps back thing, we could have gotten better value from a #2 pick maybe an OLman, at least it would be understandalble to me if he didn't play, being 1 of the toughest positions to learn...

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In the 2008 draft there wasn't one WR taken in the 1st round. There were however, 10 taken in the 2nd round. Out of those 10 there are only a few that made any type of impact (DeSean Jackson, Eddie Royal, Donnie Avery). Heck, only 4 of those 10 had more than 25 receptions. Only two of them had at least 3 TD's. It takes time, but I do get the concern. We'll have to see how the rest of them fare this coming season.

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The only thing that bothers me is that he cost a 2nd rounder. If we took him in the 5th, maybe even 4th, on his potential then no problem. As it is, we have one less player helping out the starting 22. Wasted pick right now. Having said that, someone else was apparently looking at him and that's why we took him early? Probably just propaganda to limit the damage of a misjudged pick.

Still, even a generally well regarded college WR picked in the 1st rnd can take his time in adjusting to the league so I'm not going to get on his case right now. Next yr he better be a top 3 WR or we'll have truly wasted what should be a starting calibre player with a 2nd rnd pick.

If we didn't take him then the Steelers would have taken him. Even taking a look at their 2nd round pick that year Limas Sweed, a proven receiver from a big time school UT. He hasn't been able to produce for them yet.It takes time for receivers. I'm still going to hold out and be patient witht he kid.

How is it known that the Steelers wanted Simpson? Because they took a wideout? Sweed was ranked alot higher according to most draft experts.

IMO it was a bad pick, a reach, a player that could of been had in the 4th or 5th round.

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I'm all for giving a guy time to adjust to the NFL, but when that guy is a 2nd rd. pick you usually want him to play or get on the field somehow the year he was drafted...

well, to be fair, WR is one of the hardest positions to learn going form college to NFL, because the modern playbooks require the receivers to read the coverage similarly to a QB.

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The only thing that bothers me is that he cost a 2nd rounder. If we took him in the 5th, maybe even 4th, on his potential then no problem. As it is, we have one less player helping out the starting 22. Wasted pick right now. Having said that, someone else was apparently looking at him and that's why we took him early? Probably just propaganda to limit the damage of a misjudged pick.

Still, even a generally well regarded college WR picked in the 1st rnd can take his time in adjusting to the league so I'm not going to get on his case right now. Next yr he better be a top 3 WR or we'll have truly wasted what should be a starting calibre player with a 2nd rnd pick.

If we didn't take him then the Steelers would have taken him. Even taking a look at their 2nd round pick that year Limas Sweed, a proven receiver from a big time school UT. He hasn't been able to produce for them yet.It takes time for receivers. I'm still going to hold out and be patient witht he kid.

How is it known that the Steelers wanted Simpson? Because they took a wideout? Sweed was ranked alot higher according to most draft experts.

IMO it was a bad pick, a reach, a player that could of been had in the 4th or 5th round.

I think it was being said the Steelers liked him alot.

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