walzav29 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 1. Knowshon Moreno - Can do it all (Not @ #6)2. D. Brown - Lot of Production in college great workout to go with it. Strength and Speed3. LeShean McCoy - Fast and tough. I loved that he worked out at the combine with the flu. That's heart. He's a burner and would be a nice change of pace for Benson4. Rashad Jennings - Big Fast Tank. AFC North Grinder5. Beanie Wells - Looks great when healthy. Just never healthy. I'm a little weary of Big Ten RB's though in stripes. Quote
cincyhokie Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 What if in 10 years Moreno is the next Walter Payton...and then we look back and kick ourselves for not taking him at #6. I'm not saying we should, but I find it interesting when picks outperform their "draft slot" how quickly that turns into regret and resentment towards the franchise. Quote
walzav29 Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Posted March 19, 2009 Trust me Hokie. I'm a Draft genius. I must be because they don't let just anyone blog. You always have exceptions to the rule, but the following are worthy of a top 10 pick.QBDECornerTackle Everything else is found all throughout every round. It takes a smart GM to find them, but they are plentiful. Look at our own beloved BengalsKijanaChris PerryArchie GriffinCorey DillonIckey WoodsRudi Johnson Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Trust me Hokie. I'm a Draft genius. I must be because they don't let just anyone blog. Quote
cincyhokie Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Trust me Hokie. I'm a Draft genius. I must be because they don't let just anyone blog. You always have exceptions to the rule, but the following are worthy of a top 10 pick.QBDECornerTackle Everything else is found all throughout every round. It takes a smart GM to find them, but they are plentiful. Look at our own beloved BengalsKijanaChris PerryArchie GriffinCorey DillonIckey WoodsRudi JohnsonAye, and keep in mind that Akili Smith and Tim Couch were consensus top 10 picks in 1999.The Bengals need to play it smart here and go OT, DT, or DE. Quote
bengaldrew Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Trust me Hokie. I'm a Draft genius. I must be because they don't let just anyone blog. You always have exceptions to the rule, but the following are worthy of a top 10 pick.QBDECornerTackle Everything else is found all throughout every round. It takes a smart GM to find them, but they are plentiful. Look at our own beloved BengalsKijanaChris PerryArchie GriffinCorey DillonIckey WoodsRudi JohnsonAye, and keep in mind that Akili Smith and Tim Couch were consensus top 10 picks in 1999.The Bengals need to play it smart here and go OT, DT, or DE.i couldnt agree more the Bnegals need , ot, dt, de. we have to win the war in the trenches in the afc north Quote
fattyjay Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Trust me Hokie. I'm a Draft genius. I must be because they don't let just anyone blog. You always have exceptions to the rule, but the following are worthy of a top 10 pick.QBDECornerTackle Everything else is found all throughout every round. It takes a smart GM to find them, but they are plentiful. Look at our own beloved BengalsKijanaChris PerryArchie GriffinCorey DillonIckey WoodsRudi JohnsonAye, and keep in mind that Akili Smith and Tim Couch were consensus top 10 picks in 1999.The Bengals need to play it smart here and go OT, DT, or DE.i couldnt agree more the Bnegals need , ot, dt, de. we have to win the war in the trenches in the afc northI don't see what the Bengals would do with a DE at #6. Does he start, come in on passing downs, or play some sort of hybrid role? These all seem too specialized for a #6 pick. At #6 you need to get a three down player whether it's offense or defense. I get the call for OT and DT (althought I don't entirely agree with OT). Adding a DE in the first round just muddies their situation at the position. I think they will wait another year to see how Geathers and Odom pan out before they try anything to add to that mix. Quote
fattyjay Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Trust me Hokie. I'm a Draft genius. I must be because they don't let just anyone blog. You always have exceptions to the rule, but the following are worthy of a top 10 pick.QBDECornerTackle Everything else is found all throughout every round. It takes a smart GM to find them, but they are plentiful. Look at our own beloved BengalsKijanaChris PerryArchie GriffinCorey DillonIckey WoodsRudi JohnsonAye, and keep in mind that Akili Smith and Tim Couch were consensus top 10 picks in 1999.The Bengals need to play it smart here and go OT, DT, or DE.i couldnt agree more the Bnegals need , ot, dt, de. we have to win the war in the trenches in the afc northI don't see what the Bengals would do with a DE at #6. Does he play running downs, come in on passing downs, or play some sort of hybrid role? These all seem too specialized for a #6 pick. At #6 you need to get a three down player whether it's offense or defense. I get the call for OT and DT (althought I don't entirely agree with OT). Adding a DE in the first round just muddies their situation at the position. I think they will wait another year to see how Geathers and Odom pan out before they try anything to add to that mix. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 1. Knowshon Moreno - Can do it all (Not @ #6)2. D. Brown - Lot of Production in college great workout to go with it. Strength and Speed3. LeShean McCoy - Fast and tough. I loved that he worked out at the combine with the flu. That's heart. He's a burner and would be a nice change of pace for Benson4. Rashad Jennings - Big Fast Tank. AFC North Grinder5. Beanie Wells - Looks great when healthy. Just never healthy. I'm a little weary of Big Ten RB's though in stripes.I dissagree with Beanie being number 5. By numbers and production he should at least be above Jennings.What do you think of the guy from Colorado State? Could he be a late round steal? Quote
derekshank Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 Trust me Hokie. I'm a Draft genius. I must be because they don't let just anyone blog. You always have exceptions to the rule, but the following are worthy of a top 10 pick.QBDECornerTackle Everything else is found all throughout every round. It takes a smart GM to find them, but they are plentiful. Look at our own beloved BengalsKijanaChris PerryArchie GriffinCorey DillonIckey WoodsRudi JohnsonAye, and keep in mind that Akili Smith and Tim Couch were consensus top 10 picks in 1999.The Bengals need to play it smart here and go OT, DT, or DE.i couldnt agree more the Bnegals need , ot, dt, de. we have to win the war in the trenches in the afc northI don't see what the Bengals would do with a DE at #6. Does he play running downs, come in on passing downs, or play some sort of hybrid role? These all seem too specialized for a #6 pick. At #6 you need to get a three down player whether it's offense or defense. I get the call for OT and DT (althought I don't entirely agree with OT). Adding a DE in the first round just muddies their situation at the position. I think they will wait another year to see how Geathers and Odom pan out before they try anything to add to that mix.No, the #6 DE would be an every down player. Odom would play on 1st and 2nd (like he did in Tennessee) and Geathers would play on passing downs (like he did in his 10.5 sack season). Immediately better D-Line. It actually makes more sense than a DT, because Raji would have a more difficult time getting significant playing time with Peko and Sims ahead of him on the depth chart. Orakpo would be a starter from day one, immediately improving the production of both other DE's. Quote
HAPPYJAQ Posted March 19, 2009 Report Posted March 19, 2009 You can never have enough pash rushers. Take the Giants, who added Kiwanuka and Tuck while they still had Strahan and Osi. Draft the best pash rusher or the best DT to go with the pieces we already have and watch the Bengals become a consistent Top-10 defense. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 They also went out and signed Rocky Bernard and Chris Canty, that helps. Quote
HAPPYJAQ Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 They also went out and signed Rocky Bernard and Chris Canty, that helps.That's my whole point; you can never have enough good D-linemen. Good coaches find ways to maximize their roster and it's safe to assume the Giants will once again have the best defensive line in football, as they push for another Super Bowl run. It's ridiculous to think that some Bengals fans don't want to see us draft a pash rusher #6 overall because we have Geathers and Odom. They would both be hard-pressed to even make a team like the Giants, who are in the playoffs every season. Instead, many of us are concerned that we don't have enough capable WRs or a game-changing MLB. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 I'll be happy with whatever we do, honestly. What ever helps and gives us depth I am for. If an OT is their who warrants the pick, take him, if not take the BPA. Quote
HAPPYJAQ Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 I really blame it on Mike Brown, who has to think that if we don't have a Carl Pickens or Chad Johnson, fans won't show up to games, which would directly affect his bottom line and profits. We've been brainwashed since '92 in thinking that offense means everything. It goes more to the thinking that he is more concered with fielding a team that might score 30, while giving up 35. That's why we were never able to get past the Colts or even the Steelers in the pinnacle year of '05. My only hope is that Marvin can somehow get him to see the light. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 My only hope is that Marvin can somehow get him to see the light.HAHA Somehow I dont see that happening. Quote
HAPPYJAQ Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 My only hope is that Marvin can somehow get him to see the light.HAHA Somehow I dont see that happening. I tend to agree with you there. Many Bengals fans (and the owner) don't realize what we have in Marvin, who I think will go someplace else where his opinions/philosophies actually matter and be Tony Dungy. How many head coaches around the league do you think could've made the Cincinnati Bengals, under Mike Brown, a competitive team (minus last season)?Even Dick LeBeau failed here, before winning 2 Super Bowls with the Stealers. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 I think TOny Dungy could of made a good team Quote
walzav29 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Posted March 20, 2009 Marvin is great. I think he really had this team rolling until Mike got his grubby little paws on it, but it doesn't matter. We can't quit loving Cincy, so we just have to accept it complain and hope for a miracle. The fact that they got Palmer is what gives us a shot. Marv is cleaning house, and I think almost has everyone he wants. We'll see. Quote
kentjett Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 Wells should be way higher. When was the last time a player w/ his size,speed, and strength combo came out of college w/ out any significant injuries and busted out. Jamal Lewis is the next closest one but he has had a decent career overall. Small speed guys bust out every year but big and fast guys are pretty safe bets. Knowshon and Beanie are close but Wells is quite a bit faster and breaks more tackles. Knowshon can catch and is a lot more elusive. It's a toss up between them 2 but there is no way any other RB gets drafted before them two. I'll put a $20 bet on that. Money talks. Quote
walzav29 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Posted March 20, 2009 I hope he does go as the 2nd RB. He's gonna be a bust. D. Brown Quote
Spor_tees Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 On ESPN this morning, they confirmed that Beanie Wells is moving up everyone's draft boards after his work out that he ran a 4.34 40 time. They weighed him in at 237 lbs. They also confirmed that he is scheduled to have a private workout with the Bengals prior to the draft and that many believe he can be a team altering player similar to Brandon Jacobs. Quote
Baraka Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 how can any one knock a man that weighs 237 lbs and runs a 4.34? the only thing that worries me is his toughness, he was never out for long stretches of the season, how many games has he missed in his career? i mean a 4.34 at 237 that's calvin johnson type s**t Quote
TJJackson Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 how can any one knock a man that weighs 237 lbs and runs a 4.34?Let's see if you answered the question yourselfthe only thing that worries me is his toughnessyep, you didDoesn't matter how fast a guy is if he's in the trainer's room instead of on the field.Don't draft injury cases.Period. Quote
rwalling Posted March 20, 2009 Report Posted March 20, 2009 I can hear the war room discussion now:ML: Mike, we'd like to draft (insert one Raji, Big OT) with the #6 pick.MB: We could do that, but we're going to draft Beanie Wells.ML: Why the hell would we do that?! There are 20 players we rated higher including at least two running backs. We also have Cedric Benson and Chris Perry already signed, wouldn't it make more sense to address a higher area of need?MB: I'm giving you about 3 million reasons for you to do as I say about this.[stunned silence]ML: Yes, Mr. Brown. Quote
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