Whispers — league wrap-up

[HairOnFire]

so you would like either orakpo or raji at #6?

Perhaps like isn't the word I'd use to describe my feelings about drafting Orakpo or Raji at #6. I simply don't see better options.

and if so are you conceding that the big contracts given to the two "pass rush specialists" was mis-spent?

Not at all. In fact, I think it's obvious the Bengals haven't done enough yet, and should continue adding Pass rushing talent whenever possible. To be fair, that doesn't mean the #6 pick has to be used in this manner. Only that it shouldn't be ruled out simply because Odom and Geathers are already under contract.

either way i see your argument about depth. if put under the gun i most assuredly take raji over orakpo, and the way this seems to be playing out the bengals may not have a choice.

They'll always have a choice, but yeah....it's beginning to feel like the draft isn't going to fall in the way many Bengals wanted. As it stands right now the 3rd ranked OT on the board, regardless of which player it turns out to be, is either going to be poor value or a very questionable pick due to character concerns. So do the Bengals force the issue or do they let the draft come to them by taking the BPA at #6?

[Whur CHad At?]

It is going to be the BPA at 6. And that prob. will be Crabtree...

[Thurmanation]

It is going to be the BPA at 6. And that prob. will be Crabtree...

Crabtree reminds me of Simpson. They even look alike..lol

Also i would LOVE to have a cheap JThornton playing end. He was a monster coming off the edge a couple games last year.

[Whur CHad At?]

The difference between Crabtree and Simpson is clear...Crabtree can play, Simpson cannot(1 catch for 1 yard in '08)

[Kazkal]

Crabtree 0 catches 0 yards... simpson was injured most of last season and for all we know if we take crabtree he could have career ending injury day after we draft him.

[TJJackson]

Cra-Cra-Cra-Crabtree!

Cra-Cra-Cra-Cra-Crabtree!

*laff*

[Whur CHad At?]

Cra-Cra-Cra-Crabtree!

Cra-Cra-Cra-Cra-Crabtree!

*laff*

Channing Crowder, Miami Dolphins.

David Pollack-retired

Odell Thurman- rotting away somewhere

and Reggie Myles- bagging groceries, wishing he knew how to play cornerback.

[TJJackson]

It's ok, really....we would never expect someone like you to understand that every player's career eventually comes to an end

By your same "logic" (I lack a more appropriate term to describe your addled thought processes), you should be making of every once-great player who is now doing something less grand and/or exciting.

But we all understand you've just decide to attack me today, and the my choice of avatar (not anyone else's) is one of your poorly conceived lines of attack.

Enjoy.

[Whur CHad At?]

Hey all I am saying is I was right about Channing Crowder and you were 100% wrong. You thought you were hot s**t making up names for me and Crowder, but who is laughing not, retard.

[TJJackson]

We all laughed (and continue to laugh and point) because you had him as a early 1st round pick

Go look up your history

[Whur CHad At?]

And you completely kept attacking me for it, saying how f**king retarded it was and how bad of a player he was because he ran a 4.7 40.

Looks i was ri-ri-ri-ri-right

[TJJackson]

And you completely kept attacking me for it, saying how f**king retarded it was and how bad of a player he was because he ran a 4.7 40.

Looks i was ri-ri-ri-ri-right

No, not at all

You're mistaking what we were (and still are) laughing about

Again, it was about you declaring as an absolute certainty that he'd be drafted in the first round....and not only that, you were fixated on the player to the point that no others could be considered

Fact is, you're similarly fixated again......and the fact that you had to have this explained to you makes it all the funnier.....one might say 40 times funnier

[Whur CHad At?]

And you completely kept attacking me for it, saying how f**king retarded it was and how bad of a player he was because he ran a 4.7 40.

Looks i was ri-ri-ri-ri-right

No, not at all

You're mistaking what we were (and still are) laughing about

Again, it was about you declaring as an absolute certainty that he'd be drafted in the first round....and not only that, you were fixated on the player to the point that no others could be considered

Fact is, you're similarly fixated again......and the fact that you had to have this explained to you makes it all the funnier.....one might say 40 times funnier

I am not fixated on Crabtree at all, I am just saying that your papa Mikey bear is fixated on him. With a shot to get the #1 overall prospect in the draft, I would think he would have his hands all over that.

I would rather have Raji, or Maualuga(not at 6) than Crabtree, I am just saying don't be suprised if he gets selected. This shouldn't be a suprise to you TJ, I mean how long have you been a fan?

[ArmyBengal]

I had you fixated on Crabtree as well, but with your 2nd to last sentence, I get where you are coming from on this.

[Bearcat1975]

That Crabtree pick does have Mike Brown written all over it.

[Whur CHad At?]

You can't call me crazy on this because you all know excatly what Papa Bear is thinking

[TJJackson]

That Crabtree pick does have Mike Brown written all over it.

Agreed. As in "only an idiot would want this guy at 6 for the Bengals".

Of course, Mike Brown is only one idiot of many

[Whur CHad At?]

That Crabtree pick does have Mike Brown written all over it.

Agreed. As in "only an idiot would want this guy at 6 for the Bengals".

Of course, Mike Brown is only one idiot of many

Agreed.

[HairOnFire]

Crabtree reminds me of Simpson. They even look alike..lol

I admit it's a dated reference, but Crabtree looks exactly like........Andre 2000.

Pun intended.

[HAPPYJAQ]

How many Bengals receivers does it take to catch 92 passes?

Maybe we're going to a Run and Shoot offense.

[Clackwoods]

yes but can we afford to spend draft picks on adding depth to our D when our OL can't keep our QB in one piece?

Spend a second on a Center and a third on OT depth. Draft either Raji, Orakpo, Curry, or Rey with the sixth pick and call it a day. We will protect Carson and then we can use the back half of our draft for depth at other positions. If we did that I would be very happy!

[Clackwoods]

It is going to be the BPA at 6. And that prob. will be Crabtree...

Crabtree reminds me of Simpson. They even look alike..lol

Also i would LOVE to have a cheap JThornton playing end. He was a monster coming off the edge a couple games last year.

How does a small school WR remind you of one of the most prolific college WR's ever? lmao I wouldn't mind taking Crabtree and trading Chad for a first and drafting Rey Rey!

[Clackwoods]

And you completely kept attacking me for it, saying how f**king retarded it was and how bad of a player he was because he ran a 4.7 40.

Looks i was ri-ri-ri-ri-right

No, not at all

You're mistaking what we were (and still are) laughing about

Again, it was about you declaring as an absolute certainty that he'd be drafted in the first round....and not only that, you were fixated on the player to the point that no others could be considered

Fact is, you're similarly fixated again......and the fact that you had to have this explained to you makes it all the funnier.....one might say 40 times funnier

I am not fixated on Crabtree at all, I am just saying that your papa Mikey bear is fixated on him. With a shot to get the #1 overall prospect in the draft, I would think he would have his hands all over that.

I would rather have Raji, or Maualuga(not at 6) than Crabtree, I am just saying don't be suprised if he gets selected. This shouldn't be a suprise to you TJ, I mean how long have you been a fan?

Chad I am with you on this, but I am fixated on Crabtree and I don't care what anyone has to say about it.....He would be here the rest of Carson's career and now with Coles here we could do what Detroit did with Calvin Johnson. He could be the number 2 receiver and ease in until he is ready to dominate in year 2. How many people in here would rather have Calvin Johnson than Leon Hall? I would much rather have Calvin and be talking about drafting a CB to start in round 2.

Fast forward 2 years from now and think, who would you rather have a Calvin Johnson talent at WR and still looking for a pass rusher (That may or may not pan out if picked this year) or a PassRusher that will improve our defense, but then we are stuck with a 33 year old Coles and a 32 year old Chad Johnson and a young Caldwell and a bust in Simpson. Then we are talking about taking a number one receiver at around 15-25 which presents a much greater bust rate.

Hopefully you can see my logic!

[cincyhokie]

And you completely kept attacking me for it, saying how f**king retarded it was and how bad of a player he was because he ran a 4.7 40.

Looks i was ri-ri-ri-ri-right

No, not at all

You're mistaking what we were (and still are) laughing about

Again, it was about you declaring as an absolute certainty that he'd be drafted in the first round....and not only that, you were fixated on the player to the point that no others could be considered

Fact is, you're similarly fixated again......and the fact that you had to have this explained to you makes it all the funnier.....one might say 40 times funnier

I am not fixated on Crabtree at all, I am just saying that your papa Mikey bear is fixated on him. With a shot to get the #1 overall prospect in the draft, I would think he would have his hands all over that.

I would rather have Raji, or Maualuga(not at 6) than Crabtree, I am just saying don't be suprised if he gets selected. This shouldn't be a suprise to you TJ, I mean how long have you been a fan?

Chad I am with you on this, but I am fixated on Crabtree and I don't care what anyone has to say about it.....He would be here the rest of Carson's career and now with Coles here we could do what Detroit did with Calvin Johnson. He could be the number 2 receiver and ease in until he is ready to dominate in year 2. How many people in here would rather have Calvin Johnson than Leon Hall? I would much rather have Calvin and be talking about drafting a CB to start in round 2.

Fast forward 2 years from now and think, who would you rather have a Calvin Johnson talent at WR and still looking for a pass rusher (That may or may not pan out if picked this year) or a PassRusher that will improve our defense, but then we are stuck with a 33 year old Coles and a 32 year old Chad Johnson and a young Caldwell and a bust in Simpson. Then we are talking about taking a number one receiver at around 15-25 which presents a much greater bust rate.

Hopefully you can see my logic!

I love how everyone is so quick to label Simpson as a bust. The man was drafted LAST year! Chad Johnson was drafted in 2001...where was his production the first 2 years????? Relax people, give the man a shot.

[Clackwoods]

And you completely kept attacking me for it, saying how f**king retarded it was and how bad of a player he was because he ran a 4.7 40.

Looks i was ri-ri-ri-ri-right

No, not at all

You're mistaking what we were (and still are) laughing about

Again, it was about you declaring as an absolute certainty that he'd be drafted in the first round....and not only that, you were fixated on the player to the point that no others could be considered

Fact is, you're similarly fixated again......and the fact that you had to have this explained to you makes it all the funnier.....one might say 40 times funnier

I am not fixated on Crabtree at all, I am just saying that your papa Mikey bear is fixated on him. With a shot to get the #1 overall prospect in the draft, I would think he would have his hands all over that.

I would rather have Raji, or Maualuga(not at 6) than Crabtree, I am just saying don't be suprised if he gets selected. This shouldn't be a suprise to you TJ, I mean how long have you been a fan?

Chad I am with you on this, but I am fixated on Crabtree and I don't care what anyone has to say about it.....He would be here the rest of Carson's career and now with Coles here we could do what Detroit did with Calvin Johnson. He could be the number 2 receiver and ease in until he is ready to dominate in year 2. How many people in here would rather have Calvin Johnson than Leon Hall? I would much rather have Calvin and be talking about drafting a CB to start in round 2.

Fast forward 2 years from now and think, who would you rather have a Calvin Johnson talent at WR and still looking for a pass rusher (That may or may not pan out if picked this year) or a PassRusher that will improve our defense, but then we are stuck with a 33 year old Coles and a 32 year old Chad Johnson and a young Caldwell and a bust in Simpson. Then we are talking about taking a number one receiver at around 15-25 which presents a much greater bust rate.

Hopefully you can see my logic!

I love how everyone is so quick to label Simpson as a bust. The man was drafted LAST year! Chad Johnson was drafted in 2001...where was his production the first 2 years????? Relax people, give the man a shot.

That was a hypothetical situation based on his production last season. I understand that not all small school receivers are like Jerry Rice. It takes time for them to develop, but I don't think we can justify passing on Crabtree just because we have Simpson!