HoosierCat Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Stolen from bengalsjungle.com (h/t BlazerBenner)...Hudson Houck fired by Parcells...along with Dom Capers, D. C. and Cam Cameron, H. C.Parcells is an idiot. The Dolphins will never see the playoffs under his tenure.But, the news here is Hudson Houck. He is probably, and easily arguably, the greatest Offensive Line Coach ever. He continually takes late-round draft picks and turns them into near pro-bowl and pro-bowl Offensive linemen. Houck's resume is filled only with "Excellence" at every venue. He works with whatever type of runningback he has and every type of lineman he's given to work with. His linemen aren't limited to just one type of blocking, but are experts at all types of blocking, unlike the current Bengals line coach, who teaches only one style of blocking. He set the stage for Emmit Smith's best years, LaDanian Tomlinson's best years, and had Ronnie Brown and Jessie Chatman performing at their best.There is nobody better, and no one else even a close second. His phone will ring off the hook for requests. What he's better at than anyone else is working with less talent. He could turn Ghiacuic into a Pro-Bowler...Hudson Houck' Resume:Houck was a center for the Trojans of Southern California from 1962 to 1964. He won a National Championship as a member of the 1962 team.He began his coaching career as an assistant coach for Crescenta Valley High School in California. Following two years in the United States Army, Houck resumed his role at Crescenta Valley.In 1970 Houck coached the freshmen team at Southern California, and after two years he became the offensive line coach at Stanford.Houck returned to his alma matter in 1976, coaching the offensive line at Southern California. During this time, he helped send numerous Trojans to the National Football League including Marvin Powell, Pat Howell, Brad Budde, Anthony Muñoz, Keith Van Horne, Chris Foote, Roy Foster, Bruce Matthews, Don Mosebar and Tony Slaton, among others. This group helped lead the way for Heisman Trophy-winning running backs Charles White and Marcus Allen, in addition to another USC great Ricky Bell, an NFL first-round draft choice in 1977.Houck's first pro coaching experience came with the Los Angeles Rams, where he coach the offensive line from 1983 to 1991. In his nine years with the team the Rams had 1,000-yard rushers seven seasons, highlighted by Eric Dickerson's record-setting 2,105 yards in 1984. During Houck's tenure, five Rams offensive linemen combined for 21 Pro Bowl appearances, including Jackie Slater (7), Doug Smith (6), Kent Hill (3), Dennis Harrah (3) and Tom Newberry (2). In Houck's final three years with the team, Rams quarterback Jim Everett threw for more yards than any passer in that span and did not miss a start.Houck spent one season as offensive line coach for the Seattle Seahawks in 1992. Seahawks running back Chris Warren logged the first 1,000-yard rushing season of his career with Houck tutoring his blockers.Houck would spend the next nine years coaching the offensive line for the Dallas Cowboys. At times during Houck's tenure the Cowboys' line was one of the most dominant in the history of the game. The 203 sacks they allowed in nine years under Houck were the fewest of any NFL team in that span. Six offensive linemen earned 22 trips to the Pro Bowl under Houck, including Larry Allen (7), Nate Newton (5), Erik Williams (4), Ray Donaldson (2), Mark Stepnoski (2) and Mark Tuinei (2). Future Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith earned a pair of rushing titles during Houck's tenure, and rushed for over 1,000 yards every season.With the San Diego Chargers from 2002 to 2004, Houck transformed one of the league's worst offensive lines to one of the best. Running back LaDainian Tomlinson rushed for more than 1,300 yards in each of Houck's three seasons with the team. With five new starters on the line in 2004, the Chargers ranked 10th in total offense and sixth in rushing. The Chargers allowed fewer than 25 sacks per season under Houck.Houck was lured away from the Chargers by former Miami Dolphins head coach Nick Saban with a three-year contract worth $2.5 million. The contract made him the second highest paid offensive line coach in the NFL at the time, behind only Alex Gibbs with the Atlanta Falcons. During his first year with the Dolphins in 2005, Houck's offensive line ranked fourth in the NFL in fewest sacks allowed, cutting their number in half from the previous year.In 2007, Houck was reunited with new Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron. Houck and Cameron worked together in San Diego.His most remarkable accomplishment was what he did in 2002 or 2003...I can't remember which. He'd lost his entire Offensive Line to Free-Agency, injury, or they were just let go because they sucked, and he had undrafted players, low-round players, and rookies to work with and he turned them immediately into one of the best units in the league...A year later he had a couple of them gettin pro-bowl consideration.Any team could use him. I'd love for the Bengals to try....but, I doubt if Mike Brown is willing to pay a premium (because he'd have to) for an Offensive Line Coach. I'd also love to have Dom Capers become the Defensive Coordinator. We'd have a real Defensive Coordinator, and someone who won't take any crap from anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZoner Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 He could turn Ghiacuic into a Pro-BowlerNow this I gotta see. Maybe when his phone stops ringing and he decides which position he will take, we should contact his new team and trade Guy/Chick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundance_Kid Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 the RB part may be right, but if I'm not mistaken, the OL of the Miami dolphins has been absolutely TERRIBLE for the past 3 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Am I the only one who read the title and feared the thread would be filled with gay porn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Am I the only one who read the title and feared the thread would be filled with gay porn?Actually, yes, and you might want to see someone about that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Paul Alexander is one of the better Oline coaches in the NFL.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Paul Alexander is one of the better Oline coaches in the NFL....Name one non-1st day pick still here that he's developed into a respected starter in the NFL in the last 10 years? And don't say Stacey Andrews because he was supposed to be Willie's replacement and has failed at doing that already, and is a borderline talent - just a big, athletic body nothing more. Kooistra's another guy who's career is going downhill fast now that he's being exposed. Guychick is awful. Kelly is yet another FA known for his blocking skills and needed no coaching up. The Bengals' haven't drafted or developed a TE since before Alexander got here.So where are all the success stories from one of the best o-line coaches in the league? If he's so good why hasn't anyone else scooped him up and made him a better offer in all these years?Anyone can look good with 1st day guys like Levi, Willie, Steinbach, Goff (who left here to become a pro bowler) and Williams (a 2nd round pick playing just as he always has).Alexander has developed no one. It's not that he's totally incompetent, but he's protected by a system that puts such a high value on offensive skill players and 1st round tackles.I just think the guy's blocking schemes and lack of player development has become as stale as this offense. Time to make a change - but due to Mike Brown's loyalty-over-performance mantra, Alexander has a cushy job here just like Lippincott.I think my points are reasonable and point to specific examples all over the place. It's not as if I'm ranting and raving here. That most replies are personal shots or bad jokes speaks to the level of football ignorance here by some. If that's all you have then just don't respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 In related news, probably the best o-line coach this team ever had announced his retirement...http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/billsnfl/story/247260.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 In related news, probably the best o-line coach this team ever had announced his retirement...http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/billsnfl/story/247260.htmlYes he was.....here's an idea ..Bengals get permission from Zona to interview Russ Grimm for the HC...I think his ole buddy Whisenhunt would let Grimm do it for a HC position and Grimm is a no nonsence type guy that players respect and play hard for...Hell he migh even work with Bluto and Stacy and develope them into good linemen!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Stolen from bengalsjungle.com (h/t BlazerBenner)...Hudson Houck fired by Parcells...along with Dom Capers, D. C. and Cam Cameron, H. C.Parcells is an idiot. The Dolphins will never see the playoffs under his tenure.But, the news here is Hudson Houck. He is probably, and easily arguably, the greatest Offensive Line Coach ever. He continually takes late-round draft picks and turns them into near pro-bowl and pro-bowl Offensive linemen. Houck's resume is filled only with "Excellence" at every venue. He works with whatever type of runningback he has and every type of lineman he's given to work with. His linemen aren't limited to just one type of blocking, but are experts at all types of blocking, unlike the current Bengals line coach, who teaches only one style of blocking. He set the stage for Emmit Smith's best years, LaDanian Tomlinson's best years, and had Ronnie Brown and Jessie Chatman performing at their best.There is nobody better, and no one else even a close second. His phone will ring off the hook for requests. What he's better at than anyone else is working with less talent. He could turn Ghiacuic into a Pro-Bowler...Hudson Houck' Resume:Houck was a center for the Trojans of Southern California from 1962 to 1964. He won a National Championship as a member of the 1962 team.He began his coaching career as an assistant coach for Crescenta Valley High School in California. Following two years in the United States Army, Houck resumed his role at Crescenta Valley.In 1970 Houck coached the freshmen team at Southern California, and after two years he became the offensive line coach at Stanford.Houck returned to his alma matter in 1976, coaching the offensive line at Southern California. During this time, he helped send numerous Trojans to the National Football League including Marvin Powell, Pat Howell, Brad Budde, Anthony Muñoz, Keith Van Horne, Chris Foote, Roy Foster, Bruce Matthews, Don Mosebar and Tony Slaton, among others. This group helped lead the way for Heisman Trophy-winning running backs Charles White and Marcus Allen, in addition to another USC great Ricky Bell, an NFL first-round draft choice in 1977.Houck's first pro coaching experience came with the Los Angeles Rams, where he coach the offensive line from 1983 to 1991. In his nine years with the team the Rams had 1,000-yard rushers seven seasons, highlighted by Eric Dickerson's record-setting 2,105 yards in 1984. During Houck's tenure, five Rams offensive linemen combined for 21 Pro Bowl appearances, including Jackie Slater (7), Doug Smith (6), Kent Hill (3), Dennis Harrah (3) and Tom Newberry (2). In Houck's final three years with the team, Rams quarterback Jim Everett threw for more yards than any passer in that span and did not miss a start.Houck spent one season as offensive line coach for the Seattle Seahawks in 1992. Seahawks running back Chris Warren logged the first 1,000-yard rushing season of his career with Houck tutoring his blockers.Houck would spend the next nine years coaching the offensive line for the Dallas Cowboys. At times during Houck's tenure the Cowboys' line was one of the most dominant in the history of the game. The 203 sacks they allowed in nine years under Houck were the fewest of any NFL team in that span. Six offensive linemen earned 22 trips to the Pro Bowl under Houck, including Larry Allen (7), Nate Newton (5), Erik Williams (4), Ray Donaldson (2), Mark Stepnoski (2) and Mark Tuinei (2). Future Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith earned a pair of rushing titles during Houck's tenure, and rushed for over 1,000 yards every season.With the San Diego Chargers from 2002 to 2004, Houck transformed one of the league's worst offensive lines to one of the best. Running back LaDainian Tomlinson rushed for more than 1,300 yards in each of Houck's three seasons with the team. With five new starters on the line in 2004, the Chargers ranked 10th in total offense and sixth in rushing. The Chargers allowed fewer than 25 sacks per season under Houck.Houck was lured away from the Chargers by former Miami Dolphins head coach Nick Saban with a three-year contract worth $2.5 million. The contract made him the second highest paid offensive line coach in the NFL at the time, behind only Alex Gibbs with the Atlanta Falcons. During his first year with the Dolphins in 2005, Houck's offensive line ranked fourth in the NFL in fewest sacks allowed, cutting their number in half from the previous year.In 2007, Houck was reunited with new Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron. Houck and Cameron worked together in San Diego.His most remarkable accomplishment was what he did in 2002 or 2003...I can't remember which. He'd lost his entire Offensive Line to Free-Agency, injury, or they were just let go because they sucked, and he had undrafted players, low-round players, and rookies to work with and he turned them immediately into one of the best units in the league...A year later he had a couple of them gettin pro-bowl consideration.Any team could use him. I'd love for the Bengals to try....but, I doubt if Mike Brown is willing to pay a premium (because he'd have to) for an Offensive Line Coach. I'd also love to have Dom Capers become the Defensive Coordinator. We'd have a real Defensive Coordinator, and someone who won't take any crap from anyone.Paul Alexander being employed is still one of the greatest modern day mysteries. The following can be considered Paul Alexander draft day successes:........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Am I the only one who read the title and feared the thread would be filled with gay porn?Being the mail order mogul that you are, you should know that we are not on your gay porn mailing list Hair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Am I the only one who read the title and feared the thread would be filled with gay porn?Being the mail order mogul that you are, you should know that we are not on your gay porn mailing list Hair... I'm puzzled that the Dolphins fired Houck. Their line was vastly better after he was hired. Even this year with no QB, they could still run the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Being the mail order mogul that you are, you should know that we are not on your gay porn mailing list Hair... Whose still using mail order for their porn needs? Seriously, I thought that kind of plain brown wrapper stuff went out of fashion in the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Paul Alexander is one of the better Oline coaches in the NFL....Name one non-1st day pick still here that he's developed into a respected starter in the NFL in the last 10 years? And don't say Stacey Andrews because he was supposed to be Willie's replacement and has failed at doing that already, and is a borderline talent - just a big, athletic body nothing more. Kooistra's another guy who's career is going downhill fast now that he's being exposed. Guychick is awful. Kelly is yet another FA known for his blocking skills and needed no coaching up. The Bengals' haven't drafted or developed a TE since before Alexander got here.So where are all the success stories from one of the best o-line coaches in the league? If he's so good why hasn't anyone else scooped him up and made him a better offer in all these years?Anyone can look good with 1st day guys like Levi, Willie, Steinbach, Goff (who left here to become a pro bowler) and Williams (a 2nd round pick playing just as he always has).Alexander has developed no one. It's not that he's totally incompetent, but he's protected by a system that puts such a high value on offensive skill players and 1st round tackles.I just think the guy's blocking schemes and lack of player development has become as stale as this offense. Time to make a change - but due to Mike Brown's loyalty-over-performance mantra, Alexander has a cushy job here just like Lippincott.I think my points are reasonable and point to specific examples all over the place. It's not as if I'm ranting and raving here. That most replies are personal shots or bad jokes speaks to the level of football ignorance here by some. If that's all you have then just don't respond.I cant argue with your assesments......Ive allways thought he kept the Oline fairly well together but your right in that noone aside from a first day draft pick has amounted to anything more than average.I retract my view of him...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfansince68 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 And don't say Stacey Andrews because he was supposed to be Willie's replacement and has failed at doing that already, and is a borderline talent - just a big, athletic body nothing more. Stacey and Whit did a remarkable job of holding the line together under adverse circumstances. Willie and Levi were both out for extended periods and were in and out of the lineup when they did play. Stacey and Whit were having to cover 3 positions each during the year and were moving up and down the line from practice rep to rep and game after game. Yet, our fans expect those young players to play at a pro-bowl level when they can't even stay in one spot for one whole game. Stacey did a great job this year playing in a very difficult situation. Declaring him a failure at this point in his career is nonsense, in my opinion.I think my points are reasonable and point to specific examples all over the place. It's not as if I'm ranting and raving here. I'm unclear on where the specific examples are all over the place but it wasn't in this post. You brand Stacey a failure and Ghiaciuc awful. I disagree with both of these and the only other was a 7th round pick who was not expected to be more than depth, which he has been.While PA has not developed any second day pro-bowlers, I don't see a slew of guys around the league drafted on day 2 who became perennial pro-bowlers.If most teams league-wide have developed 5th round guys to pro-bowl status, please enlighten us as to who they are. I'm sure there are a few but it is not something that should be expected.Stacey is not a failure at this point in his career except maybe to the many chronic bitchers among the brethren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I agree that the jury is still out on Andrews. That said, I'd have a hard time justifying paying him even Willie-level coin, much less Steinbach money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Paul Alexander is one of the better Oline coaches in the NFL....Name one non-1st day pick still here that he's developed into a respected starter in the NFL in the last 10 years? And don't say Stacey Andrews because he was supposed to be Willie's replacement and has failed at doing that already, and is a borderline talent - just a big, athletic body nothing more. Kooistra's another guy who's career is going downhill fast now that he's being exposed. Guychick is awful. Kelly is yet another FA known for his blocking skills and needed no coaching up. The Bengals' haven't drafted or developed a TE since before Alexander got here.So where are all the success stories from one of the best o-line coaches in the league? If he's so good why hasn't anyone else scooped him up and made him a better offer in all these years?Anyone can look good with 1st day guys like Levi, Willie, Steinbach, Goff (who left here to become a pro bowler) and Williams (a 2nd round pick playing just as he always has).Alexander has developed no one. It's not that he's totally incompetent, but he's protected by a system that puts such a high value on offensive skill players and 1st round tackles.I just think the guy's blocking schemes and lack of player development has become as stale as this offense. Time to make a change - but due to Mike Brown's loyalty-over-performance mantra, Alexander has a cushy job here just like Lippincott.I think my points are reasonable and point to specific examples all over the place. It's not as if I'm ranting and raving here. That most replies are personal shots or bad jokes speaks to the level of football ignorance here by some. If that's all you have then just don't respond.I cant argue with your assesments......Ive allways thought he kept the Oline fairly well together but your right in that noone aside from a first day draft pick has amounted to anything more than average.I retract my view of him...... Walshfan, let no one ever say you aren't a reasonable, thoughtful, intelligent man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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