New Defensive Coordinator

[aacoach]

Its time for a new one. WHO should it be?

[kingwilly]

Here is my choice:

LSU Defensive Coordinator, Bo Pelini.

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?...p;Q_SEASON=2007

- "Bo Pelini, one of the most respected and innovative defensive minds in football, begins his third season as LSU’s defensive coordinator in 2006. During his first two years with LSU, Pelini has established the Tiger defense as one of the nation’s best .

Pelini has directed an LSU defense that ranked No. 3 in the nation in total defense in back-to-back seasons, while also ranking No. 3 nationally in scoring in 2005 and No. 4 in 2006."

[Stripes]

Are we really blaming scheme for this game?

[Kazkal]

It's part of the reason TDB may not full reason but chuck is for sure part of the problem,Why has the Defense gone hill since he's been the DC?

Frazier may have not had us a top 10 D but atleast he hasn't made us a top 5 worse defense for 3 years in a row.

[Stripes]

It's part of the reason TDB may not full reason but chuck is for sure part of the problem,Why has the Defense gone hill since he's been the DC?

Frazier may have not had us a top 10 D but atleast he hasn't made us a top 5 worse defense for 3 years in a row.

I don't think the defense has gone downhill with Chuck. It certainly hasn't improved a great deal, but the signs of progress have been there. The team is still prone to total collapses like what we saw today (see San Diego '06, maybe Indy '05 and Cleveland '04), but the overall improvement is still plain as day in the statistics.

I don't blame Chuck for holding off on the blitz rush with the mind to force Derek Anderson to beat him. Unfortunately, his defensive line played like absolute garbage through all four quarters and the corners were completely in over their heads. My beef with him, as usual, is the apparent lack of major second half changes. He did make adjustments though, and they didn't work either.

[Ickey44]

Fine, so he backed off at first hoping Anderson would make mistakes. When he noticed that wasn't working, he should've reverted to last weeks attack plan. He didn't even have to wait until halftime to do it. He could've done it as soon as he noticed Cleveland was, you know, winning. I was absolutely galled to see how far away our linebackers were from the line of scrimmage almost every single play. Sometimes, they were further away than our DB's. It's retarded. When you've only got four guys on the line, and there's five blockers for the offense....it doesn't take a genious to figure out why Lewis had over 200 yards. And when you drop back into a zone coverage every play, even a guy like Anderson can hit the open receivers. Just a poorly called game by Chuck and I, for one, am sick of it. He needs to go. We need someone who'll call some aggresive plays to put the pressure on the other teams offense. We need to force the opposing offense to make plays instead of just letting them make plays. Derek Anderson doesn't throw 5 TDs if he's got Bengals in his face all day....

[Stripes]

When the Bengals did blitz, the Browns picked it up perfectly. Obviously more pressure would have completely changed the game. I'm sure Marvin and Bres would have loved to see more without taking away from coverage schemes that were already struggling.

[ArmyBengal]

I personally wouldn't care if they brought in Bobo the motherf*cking chimp to coordinate the defense, as I am just utterly sickened watching our defense f*ck up this much !!! There is no excuse for this whatsoever !!!

WHODEY !!!

[walzav29]

Chuck sucks. Bottom line. This wasn't Brady or Manning. It was Derek Anderson for Christ's sake. The Charger game, both of the Colt's spankings of the Bengals and now this. Marvin is also responsible for this as well. He was coaching when these bums scored 48 pts. I don't know what to say.

[Ickey44]

When the Bengals did blitz, the Browns picked it up perfectly. Obviously more pressure would have completely changed the game. I'm sure Marvin and Bres would have loved to see more without taking away from coverage schemes that were already struggling.

They couldn't have picked it up everytime, and they only blitzed like two or three times.

[Tee]

They've already changed co-ordinators once..... remember Leslie Frazier.....

I just think its the scheme. They continualy preach about positions and roles. How about just go out there and kick some ass?? It comes down to beating the guy in front of you. There was NO consistant pressure on the QB. Freakin Don Knotts could have passed for 350yrds if there is no pressure... When D.A got the littlest ammount of pressure, his throws were not even close to the receivers. Where were Geathers and Smith?? Peko?? Captain Thorton?? Robinson?? Meyers??

Its exactly what M.L.'s press conference will be like today.... "We just have to play better on Defense."

[Ickey44]

They have to call better plays on defense, too.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Are we really blaming scheme for this game?

I am, to a large degree. There was no agression, and Chuck went back to the 'hey watch this guy blitz, he'll be there in 6 seconds' school of QB pressure. It's like everything that worked in week 1 went back in the can, and they reverted to last season, which didn't work. Moral of the story is you can drop 9 defenders, but if the QB has all day he *will* find an open receiver. Even that clown. But if you're routinely bringing pressure, from different places, with occasional delay, even Steve McNair will get rattled. A good blitz always makes your secondary better.

My guess is that they felt a plain vanilla defense would work against Anderson, since he sucks. But no QB sucks that bad, and that should be the lesson that is burned in their brains from now on. In addition, there was no agression against the run, letting a nearly washed-up Jamal Lewis gash us for something like 8 YPC. Ridiculous.

There's also the play calling. Really, you want to do a safety blitz from the side of your rookie CB, leaving him all alone? That's a good idea? He didn't appear to even realize Dexter was blitzing.

Grrrrr.....

[agreen_112]

All this talk about the scheme is wack, the players are just as bad as the scheme besides Deltha, L. Hall, and JJ, Geathers, MM, and Peko. What the f**k was Caleb mutherf**king Miller doing in there? I can't believe he got that much PT.

[SkinneymulleT]

Are we really blaming scheme for this game?

A scheme is not all there is to being a d cor. How about proper preparation, getting your guys up for the game, tendency identification, teaching the scheme in a way players understand, using player stengths and weakness, and most of all if your scheme doesnt work, a great d cor. should be able to make adjustments based on what they are seeing to stop a 50 burger from being flopped on us again.

[The PatternMaster]

I said it before the season started and I still stand by it, give me Donnie Henderson for DC.

[mgilgris]

1) Coaches pick players so the Coaches are as much to blame as the players.

2) Going into the middle of the 4th quarter Peko = 1 tackle no assists, Bryan Robinson = 1 tackle no assits, lamar Marshall 1 tackle no assists

3) Marvin's animosity towards the media is one thing, but he needs to make some changes, his halftime adjustments are non-existent and apparently he cannot get the defense motivated.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

All this talk about the scheme is wack, the players are just as bad as the scheme besides Deltha, L. Hall, and JJ, Geathers, MM, and Peko. What the f**k was Caleb mutherf**king Miller doing in there? I can't believe he got that much PT.

That's a fair number of decent players (not to mention you forgot Justin and Landon, who are playing well in my opinion). Seems to me that points at coaching.

[aacoach]

All this talk about the scheme is wack, the players are just as bad as the scheme besides Deltha, L. Hall, and JJ, Geathers, MM, and Peko. What the f**k was Caleb mutherf**king Miller doing in there? I can't believe he got that much PT.

That's a fair number of decent players (not to mention you forgot Justin and Landon, who are playing well in my opinion). Seems to me that points at coaching.

"The PatternMaste... "---You got it right. The funny thing is the HC has him there doing something right now working behind the scenes in a non defensive capacity from what I here. You have the DC right under your nose on on the staff make the switch.

[Wraith]

Ron Rivera!

[Spor_tees]

I am reposting this here because some people might not see it in the other thread:

As far as a replacement for Marvin, I would have to go with a young college coach that has some fire and excitement with his team. I look at how much better the Raiders are already playing this year compared to last year under Kiffin. My candidates:

#1. Urban Meyer- He would definitely know what to do with this offense.

#2. Rich Rodriguez- He has single handedly resurrected the West Virginia football team.

#3. Jeff Tedford- Every year Cal has a strong defense and an above average offense. If not for being in the same conference as USC, Cal could have been in some major bowl games.

#4. Mark Richt- Has anyone been more consistent each year with their team than this guy, other than USC that is? Defense always plays well, and he is a former offensive coordinator under Bobby Bowden.