Hobson on Rowe

[kingwilly]

"He's not going to morph into Jon Kitna right away."

Well, for crissakes I hope he never morphs into Kitna. Ever.

Does Hobson even read what he writes before it posts?

I am impressed with Rowe. He has exceeded my wildest expectations. Then again, Casey Bramlet looked good in preseason games as well.

[Stripes]

I hope Rowe gets a lot of playing time against the Colts... at least a full quarter. He has definitely looked good in such limited action, but as you said -- many crappy quarterbacks have done that in the preseason.

[bengalsfansince68]

"Well, for crissakes I hope he never morphs into Kitna. Ever.

Thank you Willy!

[kenyon1977]

Give him time. hasn't DJ gotten plenty of time? Give him time and he could, like so many others, surprise the hell out of you.

[CarsonCity]

"He's not going to morph into Jon Kitna right away."

Well, for crissakes I hope he never morphs into Kitna. Ever.

Does Hobson even read what he writes before it posts?

I am impressed with Rowe. He has exceeded my wildest expectations. Then again, Casey Bramlet looked good in preseason games as well.

I took that as Hobson saying he's not going to morph into a capable backup (that the Bengals so sorely need) right away. I doubt he meant it takes time to morph into the guy that fumbled and intercepted his way to losing the playoff game against the black and urine.

[BengalChamps]

"Well, for crissakes I hope he never morphs into Kitna. Ever.

Thank you Willy!

Now wait just a minute. Kitna's played in playoff games with Seattle and Cincy. He helped turn the attitude on this team around. And if he throw for 4,000 yards this season (again)he may play in a playoff game for a third team. Rowe will NEVER do that.

[Kazkal]

Rowe will NEVER do that.

May I barrow your crystal ball sir? I need to win the lotto.

[HoosierCat]

No one is going to mistake Kit for a pro bowler, but he's shown that he's a starting-caliber NFL QB. Heck, I'd say he's the best QB in the NFC North this year, and I can think of a few other teams -- Miami, KC, Buffalo, SF, Cleveland -- who may well be wishing he was their signal-caller instead of what they've got.

If Rowe follows a trajectory similar to Kit's thats a hugely successful 5th round pick.

[kingwilly]

Kitna will have moderate success wherever he goes as he is pretty smart and experienced. He should be proud for maximizing his talent but has a limited ceiling, as we all have seen again and again.

Now seeing Rowe in action, I think Rowe has far better talent and tools than Kitna could ever dream of.

I would agree that if he gets to a comparable level as Kitna, it would be great for a 5th rd pick, however, no one should be excited or hopeful that the guy becomes a "Jon Kitna" when he could be much better.

It is the limited thinking and mentality like this that has saddled this club with sub-mediocrity for a long time.

I guess what I am saying is that Hobson writes like a douche.

[skyline]

I guess what I am saying is that Hobson writes like a douche.

Or perhaps it's your interpretation that needs a little work.

We drafted Rowe to be a backup QB. While we had Kitna backing up Palmer many thought us to have the best backup QB in the league.

If Rowe gains the reputation of being the best backup in the league, then we've drafted very well. It was an effective description.

Yes, I get your point about Rowe's ceiling possibly being higher than Kitna's, but I think you've taken a small side comment from Hobson and put a lot more meaning it than was ever intended.

As a side point, if Rowe ends up being anywhere near as good as Kitna, then we'll be searching for yet another backup in a few short seasons.

[SkinneymulleT]

Um, kitna cant keep from turning the ball over. He led the league in turnovers last year with something like 38. That was his problem here. Remember the "playoff game" that he "led" us to, what 3 turnovers from the shot putter. Give rowe a chance before you label him a bust.

[bengalsfansince68]

Um, kitna cant keep from turning the ball over.

After suffering through '01 & '02 it's hard to imagine any Bengals fan who would want Kitna.

If you're looking for a QB who can provide 2 picks and a fumble each game, Kit's the guy!

[GapControl]

I think Hobson should have said, "Rowe isn`t going to morph into the next Jeff Blake anytime soon."

[ArmyBengal]

#1. Kitna is not here anymore (Thank God)

#2. Regardless of his overall numbers from last year, check how many long balls he threw and the number of interceptions.

#3. Kitna will be a GREAT QB coach someday !!!

#4. I would like to see Rowe get more time as well and like the smarts he's bringing at this time.

WHODEY !!!

[HairOnFire]

Um, kitna cant keep from turning the ball over. He led the league in turnovers last year with something like 38. That was his problem here.

I'll argue that turnovers was just one of Kitna's problems. He also had great difficulty consistently hitting receivers in stride, dictating that they mostly look for soft spots in zone coverage to "sit down in". That killed the wideouts ability to run after the catch. In addition, most deep passes completed by Kitna, and he did have some deep passing skills, were over-the-top down the middle stuff....as he was mostly incapable of hitting the hard or deep out patterns.

As for Rowe, he's already demonstrated very nice touch and accuaracy on the crossing routes and deep outs that Kitna struggled with. Hobson correctly noted the occasional slow delivery that will have to be corrected, but neglected to mention how Rowe has flashed better footwork in drops than could be anticipated after reading scouting reports.

In short, after a season Rowe should be able to do about all that most teams expect from their backup QB. That being, be capable of winning a few games using a trimmed down playbook that limits itself to short to intermediate strikes. Rowe's accuaracy should serve him very well in those scenarios.

What happens after that is anyones guess, but debating whether Rowe has the upside to become a potential starter, like a Jon Kitna, ignores the fact that he'll never get that chance in Cincy unless disaster strikes. In addition, I think the idea that Rowe might be traded in the future ala Matt Schaub seems premature. That said, if I'm the Bengals I'd consider drafting backup Qb's in a fairly regular basis....starting with next years draft class if Rowe has developed enough to push Doug Johnson off the roster.

[Bobcat Bengal]

Rowe will NEVER do that.

May I barrow your crystal ball sir? I need to win the lotto.

Kazkal, that is the snappiest thing I've ever heard you say.

[Bobcat Bengal]

Um, kitna cant keep from turning the ball over. He led the league in turnovers last year with something like 38. That was his problem here.

whether Rowe has the upside to become a potential starter, like a Jon Kitna, ignores the fact that he'll never get that chance in Cincy unless disaster strikes. In addition, I think the idea that Rowe might be traded in the future ala Matt Schaub seems premature. That said, if I'm the Bengals I'd consider drafting backup Qb's in a fairly regular basis....starting with next years draft class if Rowe has developed enough to push Doug Johnson off the roster.

Rowe will be able to start late in the season hopefully in a scenario where we've already wrapped up the playoffs and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. Then perhaps we will be able to watch Rowe start a few games.

[agreen_112]

Um, kitna cant keep from turning the ball over. He led the league in turnovers last year with something like 38. That was his problem here.

whether Rowe has the upside to become a potential starter, like a Jon Kitna, ignores the fact that he'll never get that chance in Cincy unless disaster strikes. In addition, I think the idea that Rowe might be traded in the future ala Matt Schaub seems premature. That said, if I'm the Bengals I'd consider drafting backup Qb's in a fairly regular basis....starting with next years draft class if Rowe has developed enough to push Doug Johnson off the roster.

Rowe will be able to start late in the season hopefully in a scenario where we've already wrapped up the playoffs and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. Then perhaps we will be able to watch Rowe start a few games.

Your music is crazy. I like that first track Vitamin E. Your on some other s**t, but I like it, it's original.

[DesperateDerelict]

Apparently, Rowe needs to change his delivery to be an effective NFL starter - he has a "wind-up" that makes a quick release difficult. However, if he has the mental make-up to be a good NFL QB, then I hope he has Kitna's emotional equilibrium, team spirit, and leadership qualities.

I also hope his hands are twice the size of Jon's ==> Kitna has the hands of my little sister.

[Bobcat Bengal]

Um, kitna cant keep from turning the ball over. He led the league in turnovers last year with something like 38. That was his problem here.

whether Rowe has the upside to become a potential starter, like a Jon Kitna, ignores the fact that he'll never get that chance in Cincy unless disaster strikes. In addition, I think the idea that Rowe might be traded in the future ala Matt Schaub seems premature. That said, if I'm the Bengals I'd consider drafting backup Qb's in a fairly regular basis....starting with next years draft class if Rowe has developed enough to push Doug Johnson off the roster.

Rowe will be able to start late in the season hopefully in a scenario where we've already wrapped up the playoffs and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. Then perhaps we will be able to watch Rowe start a few games.

Your music is crazy. I like that first track Vitamin E. Your on some other s**t, but I like it, it's original.

THANK YOU my man.....I appreciate your comments.

Those tracks 'space monkey' and 's**thead' are from my upcoming album Year of the Monkey.

I wanted to do something different and original..and I can honestly say that stuff is...wait til you hear the rest of it.

Quick question though: how'd you find out about it?

my myspace page address isn't listed on this site as far as I know.....

Im just curious, thats all.

[HoosierCat]

Quick question though: how'd you find out about it?

my myspace page address isn't listed on this site as far as I know.....

Im just curious, thats all.

My bet is he clicked on that "my music" link in your sig.

The space monkey thing is pretty cool.

[Bobcat Bengal]

oh.....you know what?

I think I turned off the signature options on my board.

duh....