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Brat talks up the O and Bres says this is the best group since he's been in town. We can all sleep easy now then.

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Hasn't Bres. said that the last three years? I know he really really means it this time. :P

Ok, so you don't like Mike Brown or Katie. You don't like the coaching staff. Why is it that you're a Bengals fan again?

Where in my post does it say anything about Mikey and Katie? Dude stop posting s**t just to try and get a rise. I'm just stating the facts.

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Hasn't Bres. said that the last three years? I know he really really means it this time. :P

Ok, so you don't like Mike Brown or Katie. You don't like the coaching staff. Why is it that you're a Bengals fan again?

Where in my post does it say anything about Mikey and Katie? Dude stop posting s**t just to try and get a rise. I'm just stating the facts.

Just staing the facts? More like just whining and bitching. Please, show some facts to back up Bres saying this for the last three years. Oh wait, you just made that up, since Bres hasn't even been the DC for three years.

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Hasn't Bres. said that the last three years? I know he really really means it this time. :P

Ok, so you don't like Mike Brown or Katie. You don't like the coaching staff. Why is it that you're a Bengals fan again?

Where in my post does it say anything about Mikey and Katie? Dude stop posting s**t just to try and get a rise. I'm just stating the facts.

Just staing the facts? More like just whining and bitching. Please, show some facts to back up Bres saying this for the last three years. Oh wait, you just made that up, since Bres hasn't even been the DC for three years.

lol. This is his third year. There is no whinning or bitching in my original post it was a simple question. When you ask a question, the person that answers the question should supply the facts. I learned that when I was two. Your just now learning that? (hint: It's a question. You should answer with a fact.) I'm done replying to your post get out of here troll.

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Hasn't Bres. said that the last three years? I know he really really means it this time. :P

Ok, so you don't like Mike Brown or Katie. You don't like the coaching staff. Why is it that you're a Bengals fan again?

Where in my post does it say anything about Mikey and Katie? Dude stop posting s**t just to try and get a rise. I'm just stating the facts.

Just staing the facts? More like just whining and bitching. Please, show some facts to back up Bres saying this for the last three years. Oh wait, you just made that up, since Bres hasn't even been the DC for three years.

lol. This is his third year. There is no whinning or bitching in my original post it was a simple question. When you ask a question, the person that answers the question should supply the facts. I learned that when I was two. Your just now learning that? (hint: It's a question. You should answer with a fact.) I'm done replying to your post get out of here troll.

Wow, I must be a new twist, an optomistic troll. I'd say whining and complaining about the coaching staff is far more trollish.

Me? I like what I'm hearing. I think our defense WILL be much better than the last two years. Even you should be able to see that it is kind of hard to be worse. The only way to go IS up.

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Wow, I must be a new twist, an optomistic troll. I'd say whining and complaining about the coaching staff is far more trollish.

Me? I like what I'm hearing. I think our defense WILL be much better than the last two years. Even you should be able to see that it is kind of hard to be worse. The only way to go IS up.

So your point is what, it was so damned bad last year that it has to get better by default? Wouldn't that point justify bengal4life's cynicism in the first place?

Additionally, analyzing the inane public comments of some members of the coaching staff is quite valid, particularly when the coach in question (Bresnehan) has demonstrated himself to be a moron. That's not trolling, that's common sense. I never saw the memo that you have to be a brainless cheerleader to join a Bengals message board.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just sick of seeing independent thought that doesn't echo the accepted groupthink being attacked.

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It would be a lot easier for me to believe him if Odell was back and Thornton/Robinson weren't listed as starters.

Granted, on paper it could be but we're a lot weaker at LB than we have been in the past seasons although I think Ahmad/Jeanty will be solid, JJ is a great CB, Peko is the best NT we've had since he's been here and Geathers is only getting better.

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Fun is the game here for those of us not getting our asses kicked at 1pm on Sunday. I don't care what the Bengals say now because what do you expect them to say to all those season ticket holders? Just look at the roster. They do have a shot at da title this year. That's all I need to know.

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Hasn't Bres. said that the last three years? I know he really really means it this time. :P

The only way to go IS up.

With the D finishing 28th and 30th the last two seasons there ain't much room to go down, unless Bres can take us to a new level.

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