BlainThePain Posted June 5, 2007 Report Posted June 5, 2007 http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+W...m?mode=afcnorthWe’re told standouts on offense are few and far between at the Browns’ offseason workouts as the team tries to master Rod Chudzinski’s offense. Among those having their occasional struggles is rookie QB Brady Quinn, whose accuracy has left something to be desired. However, veteran Charlie Frye — not known as a great practice player — hasn’t fared all that well, either, and a competition for the starting job looms in training camp. (Interestingly enough, Derek Anderson, who’s thought to be the long-shot entry in the QB derby, has outplayed Quinn and Frye.) At the Reebok NFL Players Rookie Premiere in May, Quinn told PFW he has had to adjust to the speed of the NFL game. “You’ve got to be quick,” he said. “You’ve got to be able to react and make sure you’re making the right reads — completions, not just throws — and that you’re going to the right spot for the right reasons. Quinn also noted that he’s adjusting to the layout of the NFL field. “You’re used to having the hashes as kind of a landmark where you kind of say, ‘OK, the safeties are here, this is where they’re going to be or this is the kind of coverage I can expect,’ ” he said. “Having the hashes and numbers be a little different, now you’re thinking in your head a little differently about the safeties, their rotation, their movement.” Quote
The PatternMaster Posted June 5, 2007 Report Posted June 5, 2007 I believe the problem with Quinn's accuracy has to do with his limp wrist.Seriously though, I think Anderson has all the tools to be a good qb in the NFL, but with 2 young high draft picks also on the roster he could not get a real opportunity to show what he can do because of politics. However Romeo is in no position to play games, especially with the qb position. If I were a Brown fan, I would want either Frye or Anderson as they have experience, no team wants a rookie qb behind center. Quote
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted June 5, 2007 Report Posted June 5, 2007 I believe the problem with Quinn's accuracy has to do with his limp wrist.Oh man that's funny. On the contrary though, one might say that some of the activities recently demonstrated in old photos of Brady might have strengthened his wrists quite a bit... Quote
The PatternMaster Posted June 5, 2007 Report Posted June 5, 2007 I believe the problem with Quinn's accuracy has to do with his limp wrist.Oh man that's funny. On the contrary though, one might say that some of the activities recently demonstrated in old photos of Brady might have strengthened his wrists quite a bit... Wax on, Wax off!!Btw, were in god's name is Mr. Miyagi's other hand...poor Danielson never had a chance against Mr.Miyagi's aggressive techniques. Quote
MacD BengalFan Posted June 6, 2007 Report Posted June 6, 2007 Brady Quinn will not be an NFL QB atleast for a couple of years as he makes adjustments to not only the speed of the game, but grasping the new play book. I fully expect the Browns offense as a whole to struggle as well learning the new offense. Quote
BlainThePain Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Posted June 6, 2007 Frye should be the QB for this season. If Quinn has a shot at all, the Browns are going to have to make sure that their O-Line has solidified, and they have to make sure Jamal Lewis can carry the load or if he's done. They put Quinn behind a line with a rookie left tackle and no running game, and you might as well declare Quinn a bust from the start. Quote
MacD BengalFan Posted June 6, 2007 Report Posted June 6, 2007 The sad thing is they have two serviceable QB's in Frye and Alexander. The Browies should have shored up the weak o'line instead of drafting for a postion they didn't need to. Yes, they signed Stienbach, but they need more than him to improve the line. I don't think they did the right thing drafting Quinn when they needed more help to protect the two QB's they already have. Jamal Lewis had one great year, but the last 2 have not met the expectations placed upon him. Now he is behind an inferior line and they think he is going to carry the load to spare the QB. I would be a bit surprised if the Quinn starts early because Frye and Alexander can't be protected and holes for Lewis can't be opened. Quote
The PatternMaster Posted June 7, 2007 Report Posted June 7, 2007 The sad thing is they have two serviceable QB's in Frye and Alexander. The Browies should have shored up the weak o'line instead of drafting for a postion they didn't need to. Yes, they signed Stienbach, but they need more than him to improve the line. I don't think they did the right thing drafting Quinn when they needed more help to protect the two QB's they already have. Jamal Lewis had one great year, but the last 2 have not met the expectations placed upon him. Now he is behind an inferior line and they think he is going to carry the load to spare the QB. I would be a bit surprised if the Quinn starts early because Frye and Alexander can't be protected and holes for Lewis can't be opened.Who is Alexander?Didn't the Browns draft Joe Thomas #3 overall, wasn't he the concenus best o-lineman available in the draft? Quote
MacD BengalFan Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 The sad thing is they have two serviceable QB's in Frye and Alexander. The Browies should have shored up the weak o'line instead of drafting for a postion they didn't need to. Yes, they signed Stienbach, but they need more than him to improve the line. I don't think they did the right thing drafting Quinn when they needed more help to protect the two QB's they already have. Jamal Lewis had one great year, but the last 2 have not met the expectations placed upon him. Now he is behind an inferior line and they think he is going to carry the load to spare the QB. I would be a bit surprised if the Quinn starts early because Frye and Alexander can't be protected and holes for Lewis can't be opened.Who is Alexander?Didn't the Browns draft Joe Thomas #3 overall, wasn't he the concenus best o-lineman available in the draft?To answer your first question, Derek Alexander. He was the back up to Charlie Frye, and showed some skills.I did forget that the Browns drafted Joe Thomas, and yes he was the concenus best o-lineman in the draft. He maybe the upgrade the Browns are looking for. But that won't be determined until the season starts.The drafting of Brady Quinn sent a message to Frye and Alexander. Either one of them steps up, or they will be given-up on and Brady will become the QB. But I do not think Quinn is a franchise QB. He may have the big arm and some scrambling abilities, he can not win the big game. He crumbles under pressure. Look at how many big games he won at Notre Dame. None that I recall. He can't handle the pressure. Thus, I think he was overrated and will not succeed when it comes to pressure situation. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 This is just my opinion obviously, but I don't think anything of Frye or Alexander. As a matter of fact I had to go back and read your post to remember the other guy besides Frye. Neither one of them is worth sh*t. I wouldn't want either one as a backup to Carson. HOT GARBAGE !!! As for Quinn, I think he was a steal where they got him at and Thomas will be HUGE for their offensive line. To bad for them Bentley is still jacked up because that O-line would be sick !!! That being said, the Browns will still be in the basement this year, but with an improved recordWHODEY !!! Quote
The PatternMaster Posted June 11, 2007 Report Posted June 11, 2007 The sad thing is they have two serviceable QB's in Frye and Alexander. The Browies should have shored up the weak o'line instead of drafting for a postion they didn't need to. Yes, they signed Stienbach, but they need more than him to improve the line. I don't think they did the right thing drafting Quinn when they needed more help to protect the two QB's they already have. Jamal Lewis had one great year, but the last 2 have not met the expectations placed upon him. Now he is behind an inferior line and they think he is going to carry the load to spare the QB. I would be a bit surprised if the Quinn starts early because Frye and Alexander can't be protected and holes for Lewis can't be opened.Who is Alexander?Didn't the Browns draft Joe Thomas #3 overall, wasn't he the concenus best o-lineman available in the draft?To answer your first question, Derek Alexander. He was the back up to Charlie Frye, and showed some skills.I did forget that the Browns drafted Joe Thomas, and yes he was the concenus best o-lineman in the draft. He maybe the upgrade the Browns are looking for. But that won't be determined until the season starts.The drafting of Brady Quinn sent a message to Frye and Alexander. Either one of them steps up, or they will be given-up on and Brady will become the QB. But I do not think Quinn is a franchise QB. He may have the big arm and some scrambling abilities, he can not win the big game. He crumbles under pressure. Look at how many big games he won at Notre Dame. None that I recall. He can't handle the pressure. Thus, I think he was overrated and will not succeed when it comes to pressure situation.Anderson, Derek Anderson..not Alexander...Once again...Derek Anderson Quote
ArmyBengal Posted June 12, 2007 Report Posted June 12, 2007 Anderson or Alexander, whatever you want to call them, but both = HOT GARBAGE !!!Neither one will last the season and Quinn will be the starter sooner or later... The only way that Quinn doesn't become the starter is if (BY MIRACLE) the Browns go on a HUGE winning streak and just can't justify putting him in... I don't know about you, but I don't see that happening...WHODEY !!! Quote
HoosierCat Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 From the Plain Dealer:Browns coach Romeo Crennel was noncommittal on the quarterback situation, where four players -- Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson, Ken Dorsey and rookie Brady Quinn -- continue to share the plays.Sounds like Romeo is making the same mistake Leblow did back in 2002, except that his hydra is 4-headed.Oh, and in related news, the f**king soldier may start the season on PUP since his knee is still screwed up from that crotch rocket crash two years ago... Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 Oh, and in related news, the f**king soldier may start the season on PUP since his knee is still screwed up from that crotch rocket crash two years ago...If that knee is still giving him problems, it may never heal up fully. Quote
HoosierCat Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 Oh, and in related news, the f**king soldier may start the season on PUP since his knee is still screwed up from that crotch rocket crash two years ago...If that knee is still giving him problems, it may never heal up fully.The word is that it wasn't fully healed last year but he kept playing on it, so it never really had a chance to get back to 100%. But yeah, if after an offseason there are still issues he may have screwed it up for good. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted June 14, 2007 Report Posted June 14, 2007 I HATE Winslow for that "Soldier" comment and always will... I'm not in the business of wishing ill upon anyone, because that sh*t always comes back on you, but if I were, it would be wished upon him !!! F*CK YOU WINSLOW !!!WHODEY !!! Quote
DesperateDerelict Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 Romeo stated in the Plain dealer this weekend that ANDERSON has looked the best at QB this spring !?! At any rate, he probably has the strongest arm, and is the only one of the Turds QBs that can even throw a fly pattern Quote
The PatternMaster Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 Romeo stated in the Plain dealer this weekend that ANDERSON has looked the best at QB this spring !?! At any rate, he probably has the strongest arm, and is the only one of the Turds QBs that can even throw a fly patternAnderson is there best choice, they just need to protect him by blocking well and running the ball consistantly. Quinn was a dumb pick he proved at ND he did have what it takes to win the big games and his mechanics are shaky. If Carson needed a year to refine his game before he even stepped foot on field game day, Quinn will need atleast 2. Quote
Clackwoods Posted June 19, 2007 Report Posted June 19, 2007 Romeo stated in the Plain dealer this weekend that ANDERSON has looked the best at QB this spring !?! At any rate, he probably has the strongest arm, and is the only one of the Turds QBs that can even throw a fly patternAnderson is there best choice, they just need to protect him by blocking well and running the ball consistantly. Quinn was a dumb pick he proved at ND he did have what it takes to win the big games and his mechanics are shaky. If Carson needed a year to refine his game before he even stepped foot on field game day, Quinn will need atleast 2.In Quinns defense, his team wasn't as good as those teams he was playing. He had an awesome reciever but his team was not even close to as good as USC, or Michigan. Quote
Riagogogoindanati Posted July 5, 2007 Report Posted July 5, 2007 I see Quinn becoming another Klingler. The only thing Quinn has to look forward to is learning 8 world languages after he flops in the NFL.Reference: SI 7/2/07 issue (can't find it online) Quote
cincy9275 Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 quinn is waisted draft pick they gave up future picks for him big mistake. charlie frye is lacking in the mental department to be a starter in this leauge . anderson is there best chance . bently is rehabing and is expected to recover and be able to play this season espn had a artical on him. i don't think there qb problem is going to be fixed with anyone that is on there roster. and i doubt they will show any improvement this season they will continue to struggle and will be among the worst in the leauge this season. i just don't see anything they have done to change there win loss record. the only improvment may be the o-line but there is no major improvements anywhere else. that team needs to start new. they are just stacking crap on more crap. u can paint shine and polish crap but in the end it is still crap. Quote
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