BZBot Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Marvin just released a written statement apologizing for remarks made on national radio implicating profiling by the CPD, but he may still have had a point.Source: http://www.bengalszone.com/article.php?sid=535 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg BpG Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Ok let me get this straight.they start pulling drivers over for speeding, puking out of cars windows while speeding, Reckless driving, seat belt violations, running red lights, DUI's and hit and runs. I mean the nerve of those bad old cops.If that's profiling, I am john Wayne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 If that's profiling, I am john Wayne. I'd say you were more like a garden variety dink who happily climbs atop a soapbox to deliver sermons about one teams habit of drafting questionable characters....but quickly champions your own teams strategy of paying a staggering amount of money for one of the drunken Bengal Nine and then following that move up by drafting a rookie CB once charged with attempted rape and posession of drugs. So maybe you are a little bit like John Wayne. After all, you're both bad actors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 If that's profiling, I am john Wayne. I'd say you were more like a garden variety dink who happily climbs atop a soapbox to deliver sermons about one teams habit of drafting questionable characters....but quickly champions your own teams strategy of paying a staggering amount of money for one of the drunken Bengal Nine and then following that move up by drafting a rookie CB once charged with attempted rape and posession of drugs. So maybe you are a little bit like John Wayne. After all, you're both bad actors.I didn't hear him make those arguments, I heard him argue that it's not profiling. He's right.As an aside, one interesting point - Marvin only apologized to the *Cincinnati* PD. Intentional omission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I didn't hear him make those arguments, I heard him argue that it's not profiling. He's right. No, he isn't. Listen to Marvin's remarks and you'll find that they're specifically limited to calling into question when Chris Henry was pulled over for the most infamous turn-signal violation ever. And anyone who claims that Henry should have known that he was a target that day is also admitting that he's a potential victim of profiling...especially if there's some reason to believe that people are out to get you, and will use any opportunity available. In fact, most people admit that the turnsignal violation...if it happened at all...is simply a handy excuse used by law enforcement to stop a driver and make an impromptu search of his car. Now consider the fact that the charge of driving on a suspended license was dropped because he wasn't guilty of the charge. A court recording error made it appear that Henry's license was still suspended. It wasn't. As for the other charges, a seat-belt infraction and failure to provide proof of insurance, smack loudly of piling on.....an accusation that can't be dismissed as easily today as it was the day Henry was pulled over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 If that's profiling, I am john Wayne. I'd say you were more like a garden variety dink who happily climbs atop a soapbox to deliver sermons about one teams habit of drafting questionable characters....but quickly champions your own teams strategy of paying a staggering amount of money for one of the drunken Bengal Nine and then following that move up by drafting a rookie CB once charged with attempted rape and posession of drugs. So maybe you are a little bit like John Wayne. After all, you're both bad actors.Say What?! I can handle being called a tractor pull watching, slack jawed futgard, but John Wayne is a bad actor? Now you have crossed the line! I suppose Bruce Willis is a bad actor too???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I can handle being called a tractor pull watching, slack jawed futgard, but John Wayne is a bad actor? Now you have crossed the line! I suppose Bruce Willis is a bad actor too???? Not at all. Bruce Willis was outstanding in "Moonlighting" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I didn't hear him make those arguments, I heard him argue that it's not profiling. He's right. No, he isn't. Listen to Marvin's remarks and you'll find that they're specifically limited to calling into question when Chris Henry was pulled over for the most infamous turn-signal violation ever. And anyone who claims that Henry should have known that he was a target that day is also admitting that he's a potential victim of profiling...especially if there's some reason to believe that people are out to get you, and will use any opportunity available. In fact, most people admit that the turnsignal violation...if it happened at all...is simply a handy excuse used by law enforcement to stop a driver and make an impromptu search of his car. Now consider the fact that the charge of driving on a suspended license was dropped because he wasn't guilty of the charge. A court recording error made it appear that Henry's license was still suspended. It wasn't. As for the other charges, a seat-belt infraction and failure to provide proof of insurance, smack loudly of piling on.....an accusation that can't be dismissed as easily today as it was the day Henry was pulled over.You know, people who aren't Chris Henry do get pulled over for not using a turn signal. I've gotten pulled over for expired tags, swerving to avoid a pot hole, driving 5 miles over the speed limit (thanks Ft. Thomas PD). Crap happens. Note I am not a member of the Bengals or of any underrepresented minority group. I'm *not* saying Henry should have known he was a target. I'm not saying he *was* a target. Nor did our resident Browns fan unless he made that argument in another thread.In any event, that's STILL not profiling. Profiling would have to apply to the Bengals team (and that's what Marvin claimed, as I read it). This effect, if it exists, applies to CHRIS HENRY. It would be different if half the team got pulled over by Kenton Co. for not using turn signals or the like. So at best you have the cops realizing this guy is probably doing something illegal pretty much all the time and targeting HENRY alone. And I don't even see solid proof of that. But if it does exist, he's earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 You know, people who aren't Chris Henry do get pulled over for not using a turn signal. I've gotten pulled over for expired tags, swerving to avoid a pot hole, driving 5 miles over the speed limit (thanks Ft. Thomas PD). Crap happens. Fair enough. But as Marvin pointed out, many people can make a turn without signaling without being pulled over. In fact, I'd say it's commonplace....which I believe was exactly the point he was making. But here's another point to consider. If a cop knew that giving you a ticket for not using a turn signal had the potential to dramatically impact your ability to continue working, thereby earning hundreds of thousands of dollars, how many policeman would let you go with a warning? How many would let you go if they felt ticketing you for every minor traffic infraction they could think of would result in you going to jail for 3 months? I'm just saying..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 "garden variety dink"heh.top-shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg BpG Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 If that's profiling, I am john Wayne. I'd say you were more like a garden variety dink who happily climbs atop a soapbox to deliver sermons about one teams habit of drafting questionable characters....but quickly champions your own teams strategy of paying a staggering amount of money for one of the drunken Bengal Nine and then following that move up by drafting a rookie CB once charged with attempted rape and posession of drugs. So maybe you are a little bit like John Wayne. After all, you're both bad actors.What are you blathering about? I never said anything of the sort. I never said that I approved of what Wright did, but hewas 2 years removed from that with NO TROUBLE SINCE. Eric Steinbach had ONE incident since being a pro and it involved drinking, sex and boats....OOOOHHH NO LOCK HIM UP!!!You are such a manipulator, I never said one bad word about steinbach when he got in trouble, why? Because it isn't a big deal. Yet you still have the audacity to call me a hippocrite (in another thread).I never said anything about Odell Thurman and my freinds seeing him in ATL spending THOUSANDS on strippers and booze did you??? No, so don't give me this crap about me being on a soapbox preaching. I was NEVER preaching to you, just laughing at you because of the whole Bengal "Holier than thou" ideaology when it comes to Browns fans. Like your one winning season offsets everything tha happened before.No sir, it is you on your soapbox, preaching to anyone who will listen about how wrong I am and bringing up things that don't even pertain to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 In the wake of the whole profiling thing, I believe it might be wise for the Bengals to sit down during the upcoming mandatory minicamp and review this handy training video made by Chris Rock... (Warning: contains a few f-bombs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edogger Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I didn't hear him make those arguments, I heard him argue that it's not profiling. He's right. No, he isn't. Listen to Marvin's remarks and you'll find that they're specifically limited to calling into question when Chris Henry was pulled over for the most infamous turn-signal violation ever. And anyone who claims that Henry should have known that he was a target that day is also admitting that he's a potential victim of profiling...especially if there's some reason to believe that people are out to get you, and will use any opportunity available. In fact, most people admit that the turnsignal violation...if it happened at all...is simply a handy excuse used by law enforcement to stop a driver and make an impromptu search of his car. Now consider the fact that the charge of driving on a suspended license was dropped because he wasn't guilty of the charge. A court recording error made it appear that Henry's license was still suspended. It wasn't. As for the other charges, a seat-belt infraction and failure to provide proof of insurance, smack loudly of piling on.....an accusation that can't be dismissed as easily today as it was the day Henry was pulled over.It is all about probable cause. What time did he get pulled over? What was he driving? Where was he driving? I am sure the police was just being careful incase it could have been a drunk on the road.Now what if that police officer were to second guess it and let the person continue driving after witnessing the "turn signal violation" and further up the road there would be a head on collision involving this same vehicle. There would be fatalities involved. Now there would be an uproar not to mention the guilt on the police officer for second guessing himself when he arrives on scene to witness the situation (because he would have been right down the road). Now what? He didn't do his job and look what happened. Da*ned if you do...Da*ned if you don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riagogogoindanati Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 indanati........if you're ridin on >20" within a 5 mile radius of downtown, you're gettin pulled over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 In the wake of the whole profiling thing, I believe it might be wise for the Bengals to sit down during the upcoming mandatory minicamp and review this handy training video made by Chris Rock... (Warning: contains a few f-bombs.)LOL....Though I don't see how askew got ass beating he's a marshmallow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole3 Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Please leave the Duke (greatest cowboy of all time) out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Please leave the Duke (greatest cowboy of all time) out of this. In my opinion the greatest cowboy of all time was the half-breed indian character, John Randal, played by Paul Newman. Defining moment: The baddest of the bad guys looks him over, sizes him up, and concludes...."Mister, you've got a lot of hard bark on you." As for the Duke, in half of his roles he wore a pink shirt. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but when combined with an ever-present scarf around the neck, and the way strange way how he walked like a runway model, well....let's just say that the Duke was a man's man and leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Please leave the Duke (greatest cowboy of all time) out of this. In my opinion the greatest cowboy of all time was the half-breed indian character, John Randal, played by Paul Newman. Defining moment: The baddest of the bad guys looks him over, sizes him up, and concludes...."Mister, you've got a lot of hard bark on you."I'll stick with James Coburn.That was the greatest shot I've ever seen!The worst! I was aiming for the horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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